Defence ministry seeks 25% hike in budget

[Abingdonboy]

Who is this modernisation against? China of course.

China will be watching very carefully any Indian increases in defence spending. They have 5 times larger GDP than India, actually larger in defence since they make nearly all their own weapons unlike India that has to import at higher prices, and will just rack up their spending to compensate. It does not hurt them as much as their GDP is so much larger than India's.

India should follow China's example in the 1980s and 1990s and use a bare-bones approach to defence and focus on the economy. In fact I would argue that defence spending should be reduced to 1% of GDP and the extra money ploughed into the economy.

Only much stronger economic growth will help India in the long-run.

India has its own plans and China and Pakistan are looked at. Even with lower defence spending India is still able to raise a credible deterrent to any Chinese aggression based more on quality than quantity of the Chinese. Because a lot of high-end arms manufacturers simply won't do business with China, India is able to counter China's numbers with quality products. If India adopts a "bare bones" policy this will just invite Chinese aggression. India will show China it is no Vietnam or Philippines.

 

[arp2041]

Who is this modernisation against? China of course.

China will be watching very carefully any Indian increases in defence spending. They have 5 times larger GDP than India, actually larger in defence since they make nearly all their own weapons unlike India that has to import at higher prices, and will just rack up their spending to compensate. It does not hurt them as much as their GDP is so much larger than India's.

India should follow China's example in the 1980s and 1990s and use a bare-bones approach to defence and focus on the economy. In fact I would argue that defence spending should be reduced to 1% of GDP and the extra money ploughed into the economy.

Only much stronger economic growth will help India in the long-run.

we are not MODERNIZING to attack China, rather than DEFENDING our territory against China. GENIUS.

 

[jaunty]

Who is this modernisation against? China of course.

China will be watching very carefully any Indian increases in defence spending. They have 5 times larger GDP than India, actually larger in defence since they make nearly all their own weapons unlike India that has to import at higher prices, and will just rack up their spending to compensate. It does not hurt them as much as their GDP is so much larger than India's.

India should follow China's example in the 1980s and 1990s and use a bare-bones approach to defence and focus on the economy. In fact I would argue that defence spending should be reduced to 1% of GDP and the extra money ploughed into the economy.

Only much stronger economic growth will help India in the long-run.

India is not competing with China, it is about self defense when it comes to China. The plan is to be able to give China a bloody nose in case they get a little adventurous.

 

[UKBengali]

India has its own plans and China and Pakistan are looked at. Even with lower defence spending India is still able to raise a credible deterrent to any Chinese aggression based more on quality than quantity of the Chinese. Because a lot of high-end arms manufacturers simply won't do business with China, India is able to counter China's numbers with quality products. If India adopts a "bare bones" policy this will just invite Chinese aggression. India will show China it is no Vietnam or Philippines.

Are you sure that you have quality advantage anymore?

China shows zero interest in SU-35 and they did win the Turkish SAM competition recently.

Anyway, it is up to Indians what they do with their money.

 

[axisofevil]

Who is this modernisation against? China of course.

China will be watching very carefully any Indian increases in defence spending. They have 5 times larger GDP than India, actually larger in defence since they make nearly all their own weapons unlike India that has to import at higher prices, and will just rack up their spending to compensate. It does not hurt them as much as their GDP is so much larger than India's.

India should follow China's example in the 1980s and 1990s and use a bare-bones approach to defence and focus on the economy. In fact I would argue that defence spending should be reduced to 1% of GDP and the extra money ploughed into the economy.

Only much stronger economic growth will help India in the long-run.

Nah. This modernization is bring India up to date. China is an non issue

Are you sure that you have quality advantage anymore?

China shows zero interest in SU-35 and they did win the Turkish SAM competition recently.

Anyway, it is up to Indians what they do with their money.

SU 35 is a russian bird and the SAM competition had only a few non players

 

[UKBengali]

Nah. This modernization is bring India up to date. China is an non issue




SU 35 is a russian bird and the SAM competition had only a few non players

SU-35 is simply awesome fighter that can compete with Rafale and Euro fighter.

The Turkish SAM competition included US, EU and Russia.

 

[IND151]

https://www.google.co.in/url?sa=t&r...W9RDtOtw3obXhc2FCa0V8cA&bvm=bv.67720277,d.c2E

 

[Omega007]

SU-35 is simply awesome fighter that can compete with Rafale and Euro fighter.

The Turkish SAM competition included US, EU and Russia.

The US and Ruskies brought outdated systems in the competition and the European Aster 30 was too much expensive for Turkey.Besides,they weren't offering the level of ToT that the Chinese offered.These are the reasons mostly why the Chinese had won the competition and not because it was like their system was the technologically most advanced.

Their HQ 9 isn't that great an ABM system either which the Turkish were looking for.

 

[cirr]

China needs to bring its defence spending to 2% of its GDP in 2020，by which time the annual defence budget will be some 400 billion USD。

 

[Killswitch]

The following needs to be done this year:

Ground forces:

ITBP and SFF folded into BSF

155 towed (1800)
155 ultra (300+)
155 SPG (800+)

F INSAS (new small arms, uniforms, NVG's)
Javelins
Stingers

Upgrade all T72's and T 90s

FICV (2000+)

Tatra replacements
Utility vehicle replacements

New AA guns

400+ LUH

Air force:

Rafale Purchase or build more Sukhois
LCA induction

Cancel MRTA/Avro replacement, start a C130J line
10 more C17s
Common refuelling/awacs platform needed (Airbus)


AH 64 purchase
Chinook Purchase

Navy

Build 20 new subs in the next 10 years

70+ Medium helicopters (NH 90)

Barak 8

New Sonars to find subs


Missiles

100 Agni V's pointed at the PRC ready to be launched

 

[Abingdonboy]

Tatra replacements

What's wrong with the Tatras?

70+ Medium helicopters (NH 90)

Nope this is going to the S-70B.

 

[kaykay]

Who will be next defence minister? Any guesses?
May be among Arun Shourie, Rajiv pratap Rudi or Subramaniyam Swamy. Else I don't see any biggies left for the Job while my personal favourite is Arun Shourie. He is honest, firm and a man who can take hard decisions on his own.

 

[cloud_9]

"The process of acquiring weapon systems for the armed forces has slowed down and needs to be accelerated while ensuring that there are no 'avoidable controversies'."
- Defence minister Arun Jaitley

His statement is confusing.Does he think controversies like lobbying can be avoided in defence deals ? Hopefully the ministry won't be headed by another Saint

 

[Killswitch]

What's wrong with the Tatras?

Foriegn made, over priced. TATA, Ashok Leyland, Mahindra,can all make the same trucks for far less.

Nope this is going to the S-70B.

The blackhawk is a rather old design. NH 90 is far more modern.

 

[Abingdonboy]

The blackhawk is a rather old design. NH 90 is far more modern.

Irrelevant, it's about the electronics on board and there the S-70B is unmatched.