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G. Parthasarathy: Does Mr. Obama Care About India? - WSJ.com

Very little was said publicly about U.S. President Barack Obama's meeting Sunday with Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh at Blair House in Washington. That's probably because neither side wants to draw attention to just how strained this important bilateral relationship has become over the past year.

One of the biggest sticking points is how to deal with Afghanistan. The Obama administration has promised to "reconcile" with the Taliban and talks openly about U.S. troop withdrawals, commencing in 2011. Both points deeply disturb New Delhi, whose long history of dealing with terrorism suggests the U.S. approach won't work. The U.S. has also shunned advance consultations on Afghanistan with its Indian partners.

As a result, India is rethinking its approach, which it has long coordinated with Washington, and a review of Afghan policy is now underway. There are indications that New Delhi is going to hedge its bets and enhance contacts and cooperation with Russia and Afghanistan's neighbors of Iran, Uzbekistan and Tajikistan, which share India's aversion for any return of the Taliban.

Another issue is how the U.S. and India will prosecute terrorists involved in the November 2008 attack on Mumbai—something that was raised by Mr. Singh in Sunday's meeting. There is incontrovertible evidence that the planning and advance reconnaissance for the massacre were carried out by a Chicago-based American, David Coleman Headley, who has entered into a plea bargain with federal prosecutors that precludes the death sentence or any possibility of his being extradited to India. There is now an almost universal belief in India that Mr. Headley was a double agent for the U.S. who turned rogue.

The Obama administration's flip-flops on giving Indian investigators access to interrogate Mr. Headley has infuriated New Delhi. The suspicion is that the administration wants to prevent Indian access to information about the involvement of Pakistan's security services in the Mumbai attack.

Then there are the strains on the ground in India—literally. After the terrorist attack on the Indian embassy in Kabul in February, the Afghan government alluded to the attackers having come from Pakistan, with the specific aim of attacking a rest house almost exclusively occupied by Indians. Yet the Obama administration's Special Representative for "Afpak," Richard Holbrooke, said: "I don't accept the fact that this was an attack on an Indian facility. Let us not jump to conclusions." He added: "I understand why everyone in Pakistan and everyone in India always focus on each other."

Mr. Holbrooke later tendered a qualified apology, but the damage had been done. When he announced on March 20 that he would "definitely be going to India soon" and scheduled an early visit, New Delhi conveyed that Mr. Holbrooke was not welcome in India.

These developments, together with emerging differences on issues like the lack of any meaningful consultations on the emerging architecture of cooperation in the Asia-Pacific or in the Persian Gulf, do not bode well for the Indian-American partnership. With the political climate vitiated, it appears unlikely that parliament will pass anytime soon the proposed Nuclear Liabilities Bill considered essential to implement the U.S-India civil nuclear deal—a blow to companies like General Electric and Westinghouse.

Moreover, there is irritation in New Delhi over the encomiums showered on Pakistan Army Chief General Ashfaq Parvez Kayani, who is no friend of India. Indian officials were astonished at the unprecedented presence of three Cabinet-level officials—Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, Defense Secretary Robert Gates and National Security Adviser General James Jones—at a recent dinner hosted by Admiral Mike Mullen for the Pakistan general. There is a distinct possibility that Lockheed Corporation will be ruled out as a contender for an $8 billion contract for the supply of 126 fighter aircraft for India because of its readiness to provide advanced F-16 jets to Pakistan.

The fact that President Obama didn't take questions from reporters after he left Sunday's meeting with Mr. Singh speaks volumes. What a change from the heady days of the Bush administration, when there was growing recognition in India about the potential for a "new era" of bilateral ties with the U.S.
 
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It will be unwise to judge, who is favoring India and who is not, be it Mr Bush or be it Mr Obama. whats important to think (and not judge) will be what is the interest of the nation.

I would simply not like a political decision favoring any country behind MRCA.
Rather a decision which serve "Our interest" the most.

There is a distinct possibility that Lockheed Corporation will be ruled out as a contender for an $8 billion contract for the supply of 126 fighter aircraft for India because of its readiness to provide advanced F-16 jets to Pakistan.

Lockheed was already out of the competition, and boing was not also a very good contender as we all know the level of TOT we might get on these planes.

I think its good the MRCA took a little time.

And for the article.
I think its not wise again to think if Obama cares abouit India.
Coz its all known to us that India- Us relation will always be a little dicy over issues on AFPAK as both countries are persuing different interest.

"BUT"

If we leave this issue one side, the subject changes.
Both countries have other better things to think about than just AFPAK.

This is just a part of side of a coin, which is gray....

coming to MRCA, we will focus on Europeans for SURE.
 
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Saab names Inderjit Sial India country head idrw.org

Swedish defence and security company Saab AB Monday announced the appointment of Inderjit Sial as country head of Saab International India AB.

“In his new role, Sial, will be responsible for the marketing activities of Saab Group in India,” a company statement said.

Sial takes on this position from Jan Widerstrom, who will be moving on to the role of Head-Asia Pacific Region, Saab AB.

“Inderjit has been with Saab since 2007 and has been key to steering several strategies leading to the company’s overall growth,” Widerstrom said.

“Having spent close to 22 years in the defence industry, Inderjit brings with him tremendous experience and knowledge of the sector.”

Prior to assuming the position, Sial was working with Saab International India AB as vice president – industrial cooperation and was responsible for the company’s offset projects in India.

Sial, who began his career working with the Swedish government owned Sukab AB, has worked with companies such as Boeing, British Aerospace, Airbus and Nobel Industries. Prior to joining Saab AB, Sial also served as the chairman of Oriflame, a Swedish multinational in India.

The Saab Gripen is one of the six contenders in the fray for an Indian Air Force (IAF) order for 126 medium multi-role combat jets in a deal that is worth $10 billion. With two sets of trials for the jets completed — one in India and the other in the country of manufacture — the IAF is likely to draw up a shortlist in about a year, after which price negotiations will begin.

Two years ago, the company entered into a joint venture with Tata Consultancy Services to establish an Aeronautical Design and Development Centre (ADDC) to serve global markets.

In February 2009, the ADDC received its first contract by Saab to participate in the design and development of the Gripen Next Generation fighter
 
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I think there will be a close fight between Rafale, Euro Typh and Mig35.
But I think Rafale will win because of the cost, reputaion of Mirages and for the french support.
 
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Dont count F 18 out already.. .. Strage things happen in politics.. and even stranger in International Diplomacy..
 
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but brother

other contenders are mostly equipped with american parts at some level and given their shaky support i doubt that would be useful in long run and mig35 they say is just enhancement of mig-29 . Rafale has not won any contracts so may be i thought gripen in long run would be the best bet ( hope i am correct)
 
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but brother

other contenders are mostly equipped with american parts at some level and given their shaky support i doubt that would be useful in long run and mig35 they say is just enhancement of mig-29 . Rafale has not won any contracts so may be i thought gripen in long run would be the best bet ( hope i am correct)
Dont worry Indushek:) we have enough people here to support you in case you are wrong.
other contenders are mostly equipped with american parts at some level

Gripen also faces the same issues, like the American parts.

It doesnt matter if rafale or any other fighter have won competitions or not.
like mentioned, what matters is what is the best fighter which will serve our interest.

We will choose the best fighter and i know this.
 
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See.. the major concern that some of us feels towards US products is the threat of sanctions etc.. But there is a lot of difference between India of 1998 and now. And there is a lot of difference between USA of 1998 and USA of today. And this MMRCA is not the be all and end all. Its just a small piece of the jig saw.. I mean its 126 planes.. right.. And India has already bought 79 (MKIs and 29 KUBs) this year itself. And we will start inducting LCA much before we start getting deliveries of MMRCA. So unlike Pakistan of 1998 who got shafted by the US on F16s, India does not suffer from all eggs in one basket situation. I think the whole issue of sanctions from US is over hyped..

I say, may the best plane win.....
 
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Karan - I respect your views all the time.

I say, may the best plane win.....

Even i hope the same.

But more than sanctions I see the issue with US is the level of tech clearance, the so called TOT. They have clearly mentioned that the tech transfer on RADAR will only be to the level of US govt allows.

Thats a little odd and no accepted.

Rest everything is fine.
 
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i really really really want that RAFAEL win :)
 
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Indians will go for Rafale

My reasons :

1. It is the best platform available with 100% TOT
2. It is the best to learn from and shape the LCA for the future
3. Engine synergy

:cheers:
 
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Karan - I respect your views all the time.



Even i hope the same.

But more than sanctions I see the issue with US is the level of tech clearance, the so called TOT. They have clearly mentioned that the tech transfer on RADAR will only be to the level of US govt allows.

Thats a little odd and no accepted.

Rest everything is fine.

Thanks for the kind words..

TOT is generally over rated.. Its a fancy way of saying you can do localized production..And all parts of the deal are never made public.. The aim of these MMRCA is to quickly plug the numbers and quality gap in teh IAF at this time. I agree that indigenous technological advancement is the ultimate goal as well, but we have SU 30 and PAK-FA for that..

One thing that I have learnt is that if you try to achieve too much in a single transaction, you end up with conflicting objectives..

Just my 2 cents.... :)
 
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