Actually, that is not illogical at all, since Dassault is a major shareholder in Thales and even showed how much influence they have by pressuring Thales to back out of a possible deal with Saab, to provide RBE 2 AESA demonstrator for the Gripen NG.
About Dassault 's share of Thales, it is less than 30%.
But EADS share of Dassault is 46%
TCI hedge fund ups pressure on EADS over Dassault Aviation stake - FT.com
Are you thus implying that EADS which ownsCassidian or Typhoon if you prefer is partly responsible for Dassault stance? Because if you are not then my illogical comment stands in full
Hum?
And I mentioned mainly Dassault since they, unlike Thales (that teamed up with Samtel years ago) or the former president Sarkozy had showed much more interest in the Indian deal, than Dassault.
Wrong again :
3DPLM Software Solutions Limited :: A Joint venture of Dassault Systemes & Geometric
Software Solutions Limited
And before you argue that it is ONLY software, let me remind you that while Dassault is in the top 5 fighter manufacturers, it is NUMBER 1 in the world of conception / design, modelization to production software as evidenced by its CATIA clients list : Airbus, Boeing, General Dynamics, Bombardier, Embraer, Bell, Sikorsky, Eurofighter et al the JH-7 and LCA having both been done on it? ( And just about the whole automobile industry WWide. )
CATIA found taught here :
Siemens Training Pune | PLM Training Pune | MIT Skills
by the said JV?
So that in fact, Dassault teamed up with India for its flagship product but you hold to the idea that they don't like/trust it? I don't know what motivates your denial and anger at them but let me venture ( not joint, strictly my own
) this : Dassault chose India for computer products because the mathematical abilities of children of Bharat are millenary and legendary which can't be denied just as it would rather have taught Reliance from scratch than be forced to deal with the also legendary slow and clumsy working habits of HAL? That simple!
But as you went on to reiterate, the point is mostly that of the armament and systems that could be co-developed. On that, I personally have no problem. It is only that I doubt the French govt is interested. Some of your proposals hinge on stuff required by India that was denied to the Fr forces. I doubt that the Govt that wouldn't finance these in the first place would do that especially since they want to limit the very number of fighters to be acquired? And even then, you have to remember the Lancaster House treaties that are inching forward and would take precedence as they concern the same stuff?
In an ideal world, maybe all 3 countries would consolidate over them but that would make Brits a senior partner to Indians and I am not convinced that you desis would like that? Too soon? At least if it happened, you guys might come to see that us French are not so bad after all?
In any case, the news about the contract if confirmed will change the scope of our discussion. It will become a more rational matter of imagining developments based on the revealed set-up? I hope that comes soon. The MRCA/MMRCA saga has endured enough. Please let us move into realization proper.
Thanks Parik for the news and good day all, Tay.