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[Yeti]

BAE Systems union says 'nothing signed' in India jet deal The Eurofighter is built by Germany, Spain, Britain and Italy Continue reading the main story

A union leader at BAE Systems Warton said he was "not overly worried" that a French firm is the lowest bidder for an export deal worth $11bn (£6.3bn).

BAE Systems was hoping to sell 126 Eurofighter Typhoon jets which are partly assembled at Warton and Samlesbury to the Indian Air Force.

The Indian government has said French Rafale put in a lower bid and they are in final negotiations with the firm.

Unite's Bob Holmes said it would be a "blow" but nothing had been signed yet.
BAE Systems said it had not been officially notified of the development.

A BAE Systems spokesman described the news as "speculation" and until they received confirmation by German company Cassidian, who is leading Eurofighter's bid, they would be unable to comment.

'Massive blow'

Indian Defence Minister AK Antony had earlier cautioned that this remained a "long process" and that no deal would be signed before the end of March.

Mr Holmes, convenor of Unite for manual workers at BAE Systems Warton, said: "They have gone with the cheaper bid but the Eurofighter has a far greater spec.

"It would be a massive blow if we didn't get the contract but there is a long way to go and nothing has been signed yet. This happens a lot in business - it is part of the process."

Mr Holmes said the contract would not affect pending job losses at Warton and Samlesbury. "Whether we get this contract or not - it will not impact on job cuts as these were already factored."

BAE Systems announced plans to cut 1,400 jobs in Lancashire and up to 900 at Brough in East Yorkshire in September.

However, the firm said in January that more than half the 1,400 jobs under threat at BAE Systems in Lancashire have been cut without compulsory redundancies.

The Typhoon is built by the German and Spanish branches of European aerospace giant EADS, Britain's BAE Systems and Italy's Finmeccanica.

The Eurofighter lost out in December on an $8bn deal to supply jets to Japan.



BBC News - BAE Systems union says 'nothing signed' in India jet deal

 

[Bl[i]tZ]

Rafale in IAF colors

 

[Ambitious.Asian]

'We are disappointed': European EADS on losing MMRCA deal


New Delhi, Jan 31 (PTI) After losing out to the French Dassault Rafale the India's biggest-ever military contract for supplying 126 combat aircraft, European EADS today said it was disappointed over the development but respected the Defence Ministry's decision. India today issued a letter to French defence major Dassault informing it that it was the lowest bidder in the tender and would be offered the multi-billion dollar contract for 126 Medium-Multi-Role Combat Aircraft (MMRCA). "Although this is not yet a contract signature and contract negotiations are still ahead, we are disappointed. However, we respect the decision of the Indian defence Ministry," EADS Cassidian -- the makers of the Eurofighter Typhoon aircraft said in a release. The company said that with the Eurofighter Typhoon, it had offered the most modern combat aircraft available to the IAF. "Based on the Indian Government feedback, we will now carefully analyse and evaluate this situation together with our European partner companies and their respective governments," it said. Eurofighter Typhoon is manufactured by a four-nation consortium including the UK, Germany, Spain and Italy and all four governments were backing the bid in the Indian tender.

 

[Ambitious.Asian]

Dassault is top gun in Indian order dog-fight | euronews, economy

surf link for vdo

 

[sancho]

Rafale selected to equip the Indian Air Force - 2012-01-31

Saint-Cloud (France), January 31, 2012- Following the announcement of the final selection of the Rafale in the frame of the MMRCA program, Dassault Aviation and its partners are honored and grateful to the Indian Government and the people of India to be given the opportunity to extend their long-lasting cooperation.

Dassault Aviation and its partners reiterate their commitment to meet the operational requirements of the Indian Air Force and underline their pride in contributing to India’s defence for over half a century.

http://www.dassault-aviation.com/en...he-indian-air-force.html?L=1&cHash=8328870e9f

 

[Tshering22]

Rafale in IAF colors

We need to do something about the paint scheme. Camo looks too retro on jets these days. Low-viz Grey that Tejas is painted in, is the best color for IAF. Just love it. Imagine Tejas and Rafales jointly patrolling. That would be a feast to the eyes.

 

[sancho]

It will be really official only in March, but I think it's it's time to


Congrats to MoD, Indian forces, Indian industry as well as Dassault and France of course!!!

 

[Bl[i]tZ]

As for EF and EADS feeling bad over this. In a good fair fight only one emerges victorious.

By the way, EADS has 46% stake in Dassault, so they won anyway.

 

[KRAIT]

We need to do something about the paint scheme. Camo looks too retro on jets these days. Low-viz Grey that Tejas is painted in, is the best color for IAF. Just love it. Imagine Tejas and Rafales jointly patrolling. That would be a feast to the eyes.

Seems like you want to send Tejas and Rafale on a Date.

 

[Ambitious.Asian]

Seems like you want to send Tejas and Rafale on a Date.

along with JF17 huh

 

[Bl[i]tZ]

along with JF17 huh

This has been a nice thread till now, don't ruin it.

 

[Hello_10]

At the time you could produce micky Rafle by yourself, we might have manufactured thousand J-20. Which is a whole generation over Rafle. You still need to work hard, time for celebration is not there yet.

Rafale or EFT is at least ‘++’ ahead than J10. Like, this is a Pakistan defence forum and even if Pakistan has to pay twice for F16 block52 than J10, they accept all the conditions attached with it by US and buy it. But in case of J10, until they are granted loan by China, they don’t buy this half priced J10 to F16, like the case of Pak's order of 36 J10. And its also true that Rafale and EFT were selected over F16 block70, a much improved version than F16 block52.

Even though i am big Eurofighter fan, but i think IAF made a wise decision. Both Rafale and Eurofighter are more or less same.
I think game changer for Rafale
1) TOT
2) Air 2 Ground
3) Rafale (indian navy also wanted, if i am not worng Rafale has naval version or developing)

your all the 3 points are correct and also its true that EFT needs to work at least 4-5 years more to reach the level where Rafale stands right now. they haven’t developed even AESA radar yet while Rafale with stealth features is also being negotiated for this MMRCA deal, with a more powerful AESA radar. also, if Rafale can be said to be the best for a2g roles, full multi role operations, then it is also pretty good on a2a operations. While IAF will already have over 270 air superiority SU30MKIs by 2015 for a2a operations, then why EFT? Full name of MRCA is ‘Multi Role Combat Aircraft’, not for primarily air superiority roles for what they already have MKIs, then why EFT?

Only a political factor like home production of EFT, being with 4 European nations, pressure from US as it also has its leg in EFT’s production with more influence on these 4 EU’s nations than on France, blab la could only help EFT over Rafale. Otherwise, Rafale was the winner since beginning if IAF could afford to pay twice than that of Mig35 and yes they do

 

[GORKHALI]

My choice atlast ..

 

[palash_kol]

Great news.....Now IN will be going the rafale way...

 

[Yeti]

in black she looks stunning like a dark knight