Dassault Rafale, tender | News & Discussions

[IndoUS]

Both aircraft are good and if EF is the lowest bidder, and the TOT agreement is worth it and if we are getting good partnership in return then the MOD and government should go for it.

 

[jha]

Eurofighter with Amrikan Weapons ..? When weapons will be Amriki then why not Gripen..?

 

[Black Widow]

Eurofighter with Amrikan Weapons ..? When weapons will be Amriki then why not Gripen..?

COz grippen is not last two selected fighter..

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That might be your personal opionion and even I think that it's good to have some specialised aircrafts too, but that's defenitely now the way the air forces all over the world are handling things now. Every air force is diverting it's fleet from specialised single role fighters to multi role fighters, be it Su 27 Flankers, that now changed to Su 35 and 30 multi role Flankers, or F15 Eagles, that now are Strike Eagles. The improvements of radars, avionics and especially smarter weapons made dedicated aircrafts not important anymore.
In the past, a strike fighter was good when it can fly low and at lower speeds with good payloads and dedicated radar/avionics (A10 for example), to day even air superiority fighters can carry large loads of bombs and can use them at high speed and high altitudes too. That doesn mean that you can't specialise a platform to do a certain role better (see the Su 34), but it's not necessarily needed anymore and that's why the F35 for example is counted as a multi role fighter and useful in A2A as well, although it's general flight performance is more comparable to older ground attack fighters (not fast, not maneuverable or agile).
The main difference of the multi role fighters today lies in the design focus, some are designed more for A2A (F22, Pak Fa, EF, Mig 29), some more for A2G (F18), some are more balanced (Rafale, F16).




Because you look at it too complicated! Brahmos capability is actually nothing more than strengthening of the centerline hardpoints, some new wireings and software upgrades. All this is part of the basic MKI upgrade, which every older MKI will go through (remember, overhaul of the airframe, replacing and adding of materials, new avionics and cockpit displays...). So it's not like it's a special thing that only some squads will get, but it's a general upgrade of the entire MKI fleet.
The advantage of having all MKIs Brahmos capable should be obvious as well, no matter if we use it for land attack at the north, east or western borders, or as an anti ship missile at the coasts, any MKI can use it in these roles from any airbase. IAF will be way more flexible to do these roles, instead of checking first where the next useful fighter is available to use these weapons in a certain region.



Mig 29s didn't had A2G capability at all and now will be able to use LGBs with LDP and some A2G missiles. However, back to topic.

You sound logical, but let me talk to some high rank IAF officer. I may get information if you are right...

 

[SpArK]

Eurofighter with Amrikan Weapons ..? When weapons will be Amriki then why not Gripen..?

Weapons are mix of european and american and we will procure thousands of weapons and stockpile it.

So chillax..


You still mad bro?

 

[rockstarIN]

Eurofighter with Amrikan Weapons ..? When weapons will be Amriki then why not Gripen..?

Thats my prime concern, Also I heard EF has lots of US parts in it.

 

[Black Widow]

Thats my prime concern, Also I heard EF has lots of US parts in it.

Thats way french were independent of USA, Lets see how india is making the deal, I hope We will make the deal in such a way that it will be unaffected by USA decision..

 

[WHITESMOKE]

Well, there are alot questions about which we can assume only at present. Further its still rumors about EFT. So better to wait for few more days....

 

[jha]

Weapons are mix of european and american and we will procure thousands of weapons and stockpile it.

So chillax..


You still mad bro?

Just hate this royal waste of money...

 

[sancho]

Eurofighter with Amrikan Weapons ..? When weapons will be Amriki then why not Gripen..?

Because the same weapons doesn't make it as capable, however there will be very limited US weapons anyway.

 

[Yeti]

Thats way french were independent of USA, Lets see how india is making the deal, I hope We will make the deal in such a way that it will be unaffected by USA decision..

Will not be a issue even when the Saudis bought the EF it was cleared by the US it is a non-issue.


Congress OKs Eurofighter Sale to Saudi Arabia - Defense News

 

[sancho]

Will not be a issue even when the Saudis bought the EF it was cleared by the US it is a non-issue.

On the other hand is says something about EF and dependence, if the US congress has to agree to a sale.

 

[sancho]

India: the Eurofighter would be cheaper than the Rafale

According to Indian newspaper Mint, the Eurofighter consortium had made ​​an offer more attractive financially and Dassault Aviation.

This is one of the first leaks about the Pharaonic tender M-MRCA, which concerns the purchase of 126 combat aircraft in New Delhi to equip its Air Force (Air Force). To be taken with caution, however, as manufacturers compete will no doubt engage a war of "brainwashing."

According to the Indian business paper Mint, the Eurofighter consortium ( EADS , BAE Systems and Italy's Finmeccanica), offering the Typhoon would be the lowest bidder from Dassault Aviation (Rafale). This newspaper, which has a partnership with the Wall Street Journal, was piped by persons familiar of these cases on condition of anonymity. But the newspaper was unable to cross-check his information. according to Indian rules, the bidder the lowest bidder is deemed the winner.

According to Mint, the two manufacturers, even in competition, are likely to be also called by the Defense Ministry on Thursday. The spokesman of the Ministry of Defence, Sitanshu Kar, for his part refused to comment....

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[IND151]

@ post number 66 i agree i think miprage upgrade is planned by IAF to give them more A2G capacity. Mgirage should get new engimnce

 

[illusion8]

isnt there anyone here who can confirm this with inside sources

At the expense of being laughed at, I live in HAL Bangalore and a friend of mine supplies engines and gas turbines to HAL, He mentioned that HAL is gearing up to produce EF in the future.

 

[Kazhugu]

At the expense of being laughed at, I live in HAL Bangalore and a friend of mine supplies engines and gas turbines to HAL, He mentioned that HAL is gearing up to produce EF in the future.

i always liked rafale