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First of all, weapon deals are always additional deals and not included in the procurment or upgrades of fighters.
Secondly, MoD knew the cost of the fighters before they shortlisted the most expensive fighters in the competitions, which logically tells us, that no matter what they have no problem with the unit cost of the EF or Rafale.
Thirdly, former IAF Chief Naik stated that the lifecycle cost is more important than the unit cost, which is one reason why neither the Mig had a chance, nor more heavy class Flankers will be procured instead of MMRCAs.
You are for Mig 35, upgraded MKI, LCA MK1 and 2, which all doesn't exist today and still call Rafale a paper Tiger?
Once again, since there are still people who missed that some of the most important requirements of MMRCA are, ToT and offsets, but neither upgraded MKI, nor LCA will get India this. Also IAF wants alternative weapons to the Russian/Indian weapon package that the LCA, Mig 29 SMT/K and MKIs mainly will use.
MKIs and in future FGFAs will remain Indias prime fighters, but in addition to them and till LCA will be ready for opertational service, western fighters are needed and MoD/GoI combined the procurement with getting additional advantages for India. That's why MMRCA is important and why we are ready to pay higher prizes if we get enough in return too!
your First point, did I say "weapon deals includes in the procurement or upgrades of fighters."?, I just said, IAF mustn’t pay more than $12.6bn for 126, either for EFT or even Rafale, including establishing infrastructure and loaded with missiles also, if they may buy a similar type of aircraft like upgraded SU30MKIs for $100mil as per the recent order of 42. (remember, you dont even have to spend even a single dollar for training on new aircrafts, with having raw to product techs, in case of SU30MKIs and also, as per the current order, production line of MKIs would continue till 2014-15 and you mustn’t close it until you open production line of PAK FA/ FGFA, by probably 2018. so you would order more, at least 63 more, to keep it running till 2017-18?)
Your Second point: we all knew MMRCA for $10bn only while I have increased it to $12.6bn. if you will pay just $100mil to $120mil for 5th gen stealth PAK FA/ FGFA from 2018 onwards, then how it is advisable to pay around $150mil each for a 4th gen like Rafale or EFT, as the deal may well rise to $18bn to $20bn for just 126 MMRCA aircrafts.
Third point, hey man how much will you exactly pay for maintenance cost, with adding difference of maintenance cost of Mig35 to Rafale, it would additional $10mil only while a Mig35/ Mig29VOT would cost hardly $50mil to $55mil with already having full infrastructure of Mig29s? and don’t forget, Mig35 ticked most of the boxes with EFT/ Rafale and they lost points in engine test only. The reason why IN ordered 29 more Mig29s for IAC-1 in 2010?
Your Forth point that, “Mig 35, upgraded MKI, LCA MK1 and 2, which all doesn't exist today and still call Rafale a paper Tiger?”
and here, Rafale, the super star of MMRCA, "Paper Tiger", is widely called the best aircraft among the MMRCA deal while it hasn’t wont even a single order till now and their only hope is this MMRCA deal which may give them publicity? otherwise, none would buy it, specially after 5-6 years from now as US’s friends will buy F35, Russian friends will buy PAK FA and that of China J20, and will it make sense to pay the same price for a 4th gen aircraft like Rafale in the time of 5th gen, after 2020?
And, you don’t know Mig35/ Mig29VOT? It’s the best version of Mig29 with AESA radar?
About ‘upgraded MKI’ and LCA mk2 please read news below. As, I believe if IAF doesn’t want Mig35 then they would pay $12.6bn and buy 63 upgraded SU30MKIs ($6.3bn) + 150 LCA mk2 ($6.3), in place of paying more than $12.6bn for 126 Rafale or EFT. in place of having variety of aricrafts, you would have expertise on those few for which you have techs from raw to product, LCA & SU30MKI.
While the Cabinet Committee on Security had taken a decision on buying 42 additional Sukhoi MKIs last year, negotiations have taken longer because India was also keen to include some of the features found in fifth generation fighter aircraft. Finally, the Russian side agreed to upgrade the SU-30 MKIs to its latest version known as ‘Super Sukhoi’ with additional characteristics. The new version is expected to include a new cockpit, an upgraded radar and certain stealth features to avoid radar detection. Significantly, the upgraded Sukhoi-30 MKIs will be able to carry a heavier weapons load, especially the airborne version of the Brahmos cruise missile. India is also looking to upgrade most of its SU-30 MKIs in the long run.
PM visit: India to buy 42 ‘upgraded’ Sukhois - Indian Express
Vendor selection by the IAF for supplying various sub-systems for the Tejas Mk2 too is gathering pace. What has been confirmed thus far is that the two-way airborne operational data-links (ODL) will be supplied by HAL, which, among other systems, will be supplying a newly-designed mission computer (to cater to the increased processing requirements of the new fire-control system and IDAS), the RAM-1701AS radio altimeter, TACAN-2901AJ and DME-2950A tactical air navigation system combined with the ANS-1100A VOL/ILS marker, CIT-4000A Mk12 IFF transponder, COM-1150A UHF standby comms radio, UHF SATCOM transceiver, and the SDR-2010 SoftNET four-channel software-defined radio (working in VHF/UHF and L-band for voice and data communications), and the Bheem-EU brake control/engine/electrical monitoring system, all of which have been developed in-house by the Hyderabad-based Strategic Electronics R & D Centre of HAL. SAGEM Défense Sécurité will supply the Sigma-95N ring laser gyro-based inertial navigation system coupled to a GPS receiver (which is also on board the Su-30MKI and Tejas Mk1). The open-architecture integrated defensive aids suite (IDAS), which has been under joint development by the DRDO’s Bengaluru-based Defence Avionics Research Establishment (DARE) and Germany-based Cassidian since 2006, will include the AAR-60(V)2 MILDS F missile approach warning system, the EW management computer and Tarang Mk3 radar warning receiver (all to be built by Bharat Electronics Ltd), countermeasures dispenser built by Bharat Dynamics Ltd, and Elettronica of Italy’s Virgilius directional jammers (now being installed on the IAF’s MiG-29UPGs), which make use of active phased-array transmitters for jamming hostile low-band (E-G) and high-band (G-J) emitters. The redesigned digital flight-control computer will be built by BEL, while the HMD chosen is the Dash Mk5 from Elbit Systems. For tactical strike missions, the ‘Tejas’ Mk2 will be equipped with the Litening-3 LDP, supplied by RAFAEL Advanced Defence Systems of Israel. The actuated retractable aerial refuelling probe, mounted on the Tejas Mk2’s starboard cockpit section, will be supplied by UK-based Cobham Mission Equipment.
TRISHUL: Tejas Mk2 MRCA’s R & D Effort Gathers Pace