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Don't underestimate the potentials of MMRCAs, an EF with AESA imo is better than the MKI in A2A and Rafale can hold pretty well against MKI in A2G. And as we know, there is a possibility that the number of MMRCAs will rise to at least 200. If that is enough to call it backbone or not, is not the important point imo, but some of them has the capability for it.
Are u sure MKI will be beaten by EFT and Rafale.. i doubt it?.... BVR or WVR MKI can any day survive and w.r.t Rafale in A2g are you kidding? Rafale cant carry Brahmos along with usefult payload.. while MKI can surely do.. and post super upgrade i dont know what will be its performance... it will be surely unmatched..
Dude , get ur facts right
EFT is by far the best air superiority fighter available in the world apart from F22 Raptor ,it also has an RCS of under 1 compared to MKI which has about 10 sqm
While u are correct that Rafale cant carry Brahmos , but there is a cruise missile which it can carry and that is SCALP/Storm Shadow , which has a range of 250 Km and payload of 400 Kg , and unlike the Brahmos it can also carry nuclear warheads
Apart from all this Rafale is an advancement over the Mirage 2000v5 WHICH WE want our mirages to become
as u know mirage 2000 are the best ground attack platform which we currently have
Rafale also can carry a 9500 Kg payload and has a range of 3700 Km , so it is best aircraft in mmrca , capable of deep strike mission , and compared to F/A18 Superhornet , it comes without any strings attached
Dude , get ur facts right
EFT is by far the best air superiority fighter available in the world apart from F22 Raptor ,it also has an RCS of under 1 compared to MKI which has about 10 sqm
While u are correct that Rafale cant carry Brahmos , but there is a cruise missile which it can carry and that is SCALP/Storm Shadow , which has a range of 250 Km and payload of 400 Kg , and unlike the Brahmos it can also carry nuclear warheads
French have even offered 120 SCALP cruise missiles as part of weapon's package
Apart from all this Rafale is an advancement over the Mirage 2000v5 WHICH WE want our mirages to become
as u know mirage 2000 are the best ground attack platform which we currently have
Rafale also can carry a 9500 Kg payload and has a range of 3700 Km , so it is best aircraft in mmrca , capable of deep strike mission , and compared to F/A18 Superhornet , it comes without any strings attached
Su30 is not good in dog fight??? Please Enlighten
Are you sure..?? Su-30 MKI is the most agile and maneuverable Plane ever flown..
One more thing about Air superiority fighters is that they are purchased in small numbers but we have placed orders upto 270 and HAL expects 40-42 more.These aircraft could sacrifice high maneuverability, and instead focus on remaining performance characteristics, as they presumably would never engage into dogfight with enemy fighters.
Have mki ever worked next to next with F15 during any exercise ??? I would love to see how does it perform as compared to US counterpart.
Are u sure MKI will be beaten by EFT and Rafale.. i doubt it?.... BVR or WVR MKI can any day survive and w.r.t Rafale in A2g are you kidding? Rafale cant carry Brahmos along with usefult payload.. while MKI can surely do.. and post super upgrade i dont know what will be its performance... it will be surely unmatched..
French have even offered 120 SCALP cruise missiles as part of weapon's package
EF in A2A is for sure more than a match for the MKI, it is lighter, offers SC with A2A loads (higher speed, better fuel consumption, lower IR signature, because of less use of the AB) has a very low RCS even with A2A weaponary (4 BVR missiles at "semi stealth" fuselage stations), the AESA will be highly capable in terms of range and area it covers, TVC is on offer as well, IRIS-T / METEOR missile combo.
So far MKI is about to carry 1 Brahmos to the same ranges that a Rafale carries 2 Scalp and for the future it is planed that MKI should carry 3 smaller Brahmos, while Rafale should carry 3 Scalp with CFTs as well. The difference comes in the way they fulfill this role!
MKI will try to use Brahmos from distance and at high altitude, to be in a safe distance even it will be detected (RCS) and to give Brahmos more range (recent reports said, that used from high altitudes, Brahmos range could be extended to over 400Km). The missile might be detected early, but the speed will remain it's main advantage to be not countered.
Rafale and Scalp instead have a different approch on this role, because they will use their low RCS and low level, terrain following capabilities to avoid detection and get closer to the target. One more reason why Rafale would complement MKI and why Scalp would be a cost-effective alternative to Brahmos.
EF in A2A is for sure more than a match for the MKI, it is lighter, offers SC with A2A loads (higher speed, better fuel consumption, lower IR signature, because of less use of the AB) has a very low RCS even with A2A weaponary (4 BVR missiles at "semi stealth" fuselage stations), the AESA will be highly capable in terms of range and area it covers, TVC is on offer as well, IRIS-T / METEOR missile combo.
So far MKI is about to carry 1 Brahmos to the same ranges that a Rafale carries 2 Scalp and for the future it is planed that MKI should carry 3 smaller Brahmos, while Rafale should carry 3 Scalp with CFTs as well. The difference comes in the way they fulfill this role!
MKI will try to use Brahmos from distance and at high altitude, to be in a safe distance even it will be detected (RCS) and to give Brahmos more range (recent reports said, that used from high altitudes, Brahmos range could be extended to over 400Km). The missile might be detected early, but the speed will remain it's main advantage to be not countered.
Rafale and Scalp instead have a different approch on this role, because they will use their low RCS and low level, terrain following capabilities to avoid detection and get closer to the target. One more reason why Rafale would complement MKI and why Scalp would be a cost-effective alternative to Brahmos.