Dassault Rafale, tender | News & Discussions

[redpearl75]

It's just that IAF or for that matter the Govt doesn't want to go for or rather explore something new.. All they want is to use the already existing assembly and maintainance line to use for MRCA and if possible keep it for that..... The Govt. can spend millions and billions on dying and rusting material but doesn't bloody feel the need to upgrade itself practically..... all we have and think is Russia, Russian and, Russia... That's all... Are we truly an independent country in terms of military hardware or we have given every damn order has to go to Russia and we concider them our first choice... Why????? it will be an order for about 200-250 jets as a part of this MRCA deal, where in the hell does commonality comes in here.... It will anyway need a new assembly line and a maintainance team.... Followed by 300 FGFA.... Im sick and tired of listening to the Govt crap which is direly based on what we have and have been using...

 

[sancho]

While the rest of the world is concentrating on reducing its types to reduce costs.. the IAF seems to be doing the opposite... Although I am unsure of what the ASR's might be.. could it be a case of having suddenly too much in the coffers.

That's not correct!
IAF had and has at the moment 7 different types of fighters (Mig 21, 23, 27, 29, Mirage 2000, Jaguars, and Su 30 MKIs) and according to the IAF Chief the aim is 4 types in the near future (LCA, MMRCA, Su 30 MKI and Pak Fa / FGFA). As you can see the different types will be reduced for sure, only the total numbers of fighters will be increased.

 

[rsingh]

Self delete

 

[RPK]

The report has the details of the performance of the six competing fighters on 643 different requirements with each aircraft being marked compliant or non-compliant with each parameter.
Multi-role aircraft deal expected to be finalised by next year: IAF chief - India - DNA

 

[sudhir007]

Indian Air Force Chief Expects MRCA Deal Winner to be chosen by July 2011 | India Defence

India, which is racing to upgrade its military, is likely to hand out a 12-billion-dollar contract for 126 fighter jets by July 2011, the country's air force chief said on Friday. Six global aeronautical companies are in a dogfight to grab the deal to sell 126 Medium Multi-Role Combat Aircraft (MMRCA) to the Indian Air Force, which is also shopping for up to 270 Russian-designed Sukhoi war jets .

"We had submitted the MMRCA report with the defence ministry on July 30 and if everything goes of well, then the contract should be signed by July 30 next year," Air Chief Marshal P.V. Naik said, the Press Trust of India reported. India issued the request for proposals to the six short-listed firms in August 2007 and the long-awaited trials of the aircraft competing for the world's most lucrative fighter jet contract began last year.

Air Chief Marshal Naik's announcement came a day after Moscow and New Delhi unveiled plans to co-develop 250-300 advanced stealth fighter jets for military technology-hungry India.

American companies, Lockheed Martin F-16IN, Boeing F/A-18, French Dassault Rafale, EADS Eurofighter Typhoon, Saab Gripen and Russian MiG-35 are in the running for the 126 aircraft deal which is expected to replace the aging MiG-21s. According to sources, "Vendors who are compliant rule wise, Defence Procurement Policy and Technical offsets will ultimately be opened for consideration. Also, the lowest bidder, designated L1, will be selected as the medium multi-role combat aircraft (MRCA)."

 

[sancho]

So can we expect a shortlist soon?

 

[sudhir007]

So can we expect a shortlist soon?

May be MOD does not want declare now or may be they disclose after all the president who's coming in (Russia, US, France) goes back. coze they does not want to make any political issue or does not want to unhappy our visiter coze of mcra.

 

[Marxist]

NEW DELHI: India, which is racing to upgrade its military, is likely to hand out a 12-billion-dollar contract for 126 fighter jets by July 2011, the country's air force chief said on Friday.

Six global aeronautical companies are in a dogfight to grab the deal to sell 126 Medium Multi-Role Combat Aircraft (MMRCA) to the Indian Air Force, which is also shopping for up to 270 Russian-designed Sukhoi war jets .

"We had submitted the MMRCA report with the defence ministry on July 30 and if everything goes of well, then the contract should be signed by July 30 next year," air chief marshall P.V. Naik said, the Press Trust of India reported.

India issued the request for proposals to the six short-listed firms in August 2007 and the long-awaited trials of the aircraft competing for the world's most lucrative fighter jet contract began last year.

US-based Lockheed Martin, offering F-16, and Boeing's F-18 "Superhornet" emerged as the front-runners following the gruelling trials, industry sources have said.

The European Aeronautic Defence and Space Company has offered its Typhoon Eurofighter and French Dassault, which constructs the Mirage, has put forward its Rafale.

Russian manufacturers of the MiG-35 and MiG-29, as well as Sweden's Saab, which is hawking its Gripen fighter, are also in the running for the biggest fighter jet contract in 16 years.

The contract includes the outright purchase of 18 fighter jets by 2012 with another 108 to be built in India.

India would also have an option to buy 64 more such jets.

Air chief marshall Naik's announcement came a day after Moscow and New Delhi unveiled plans to co-develop 250-300 advanced stealth fighter jets for military technology-hungry India.

Aviation experts say the 30-ton Russian-designed planes could cost up to 100 million dollars each.

India to hand out giant war jet deal by July: air force - The Economic Times

 

[redpearl75]

F 18 Sounds good, but F 16? Not that..... F 18 and Rafale should have been the leading conteders as fas as we all knew... Still can't say anything now as it again got further delaid to July 2011 and god know how far it will get dragged....

 

[kingdurgaking]

And based on that if IAF goes for Migs we are in deep trouble then.....

IAF chief already hinted that only 5 platforms will be operated in a decade

1) PAK FA
2) MKI
3) AMCA
4) Tejas
5) MMRCA

MMRCA is kept separate.. so i guess it can be Migs or it cannot be.. They are altogether kept seperately..

 

[kingdurgaking]

May be MOD does not want declare now or may be they disclose after all the president who's coming in (Russia, US, France) goes back. coze they does not want to make any political issue or does not want to unhappy our visiter coze of mcra.

I too have the same feeling.. Of the 3 who is going to give the best of other deals or cooperation for India .. India will opt the same...

 

[kingdurgaking]

NEW DELHI: India, which is racing to upgrade its military, is likely to hand out a 12-billion-dollar contract for 126 fighter jets by July 2011, the country's air force chief said on Friday.

I have a doubt.. First the deal worth was $10^9, then it was $11^9 and now it is $12^9.. why is it keeping on increasing.. any specific reason?

 

[redpearl75]

I have a doubt.. First the deal worth was $10^9, then it was $11^9 and now it is $12^9.. why is it keeping on increasing.. any specific reason?

10 Billion $ was the actual budget based on the theoritical assumption and after the trieals things have changed and now the government is willing to shell out more in order to get the best out of whichever jet is going to get selected... Like the full TOT... and all that stuff...

 

[Tejas-MkII]

Now i think it will go to f-18.......

 

[redpearl75]

I would have loved it had it been Rafale... Love the design, weapon options, Cockpit and capacity to carry.... It rocks man.....