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russia stopped deal of s400 because of old chinese habit of spying everywhere .
Before commenting funny, watch the dam video, Russia has delivered Tha S400 Jst a day back!
So don't try your godi media shyt here!
Russia indias greatest friend denying india mig29s and su30s while giving China S400 says it all!
Why don't you guys try to fly it near PLA positions to chcek what really they got, if they shot Rafael tht means they hve the S400s if not you can keep dancing!!!!!
 
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Former IAF chief B S Dhanoa, the architect of Indian humiliation last year comes out with all praise for the mighty Rafale as the sole saviour of Bharat Mata in the present situation. He stops short in nearly declaring the Rafale, an important Indian deity .I am amazed and bemused how this Sardarji made it right to the top to lead a big airforce. Below are some extracts of his interview with HT.
" The Rafale with its top of the line electronic warfare suite, Meteor beyond visual range missile and SCALP air to ground weapon with its terrain following capability outguns any threat that the Chinese Air Force produces. Painting a wartime scenario, former top gun said : “ If the IAF is successful in destruction of enemy air defences and suppression of enemy air defences, then the Chinese fighters out in the open at Hotan air base and at Gonggar air base at Lhasa airport are fair targets. Some 70 Chinese aircraft are without protection at Hotan and some 26 aircraft may be parked inside a tunnel which the PLA were building at Lhasa air base,” the former air chief said."
While Air Chief Marshal (Retd) Dhanoa recognises the threat presented by Chinese J-20 fifth generation fighter, he is very confident that the IAF with its latest Rafale and Su-30 MKI will be able to counter the best the Chinese throw at India.
If Chinese equipment was so good, then why did the Pakistanis only use F-16 aircraft to attack Nangi Tekri brigade in Rajouri sector on February 27, 2019 with Chinese JF-17 merely giving air defence cover to Mirage 3/5 bombers. The Mirage 3/5 dropped the H 2/4 bombs from a safe distance with the JF 17 in a supportive role providing Air Defence to these aircraft! Why does Pakistan use Swedish early air warning platforms up north and keep Chinese AWACS in the south? Why is Pakistan mounting European radar (Selex Gallelio) and Turkish targeting pod on Chinese JF-17 ? The answer is quite evident,” the former Chief said.
However, the brilliant air tactician recognizes the Chinese threat in form of surface to air missile batteries and artillery guns, which the PLA has packed in occupied Aksai Chin. But he also makes it very clear that with no tree line cover available to the Chinese platforms, they would be sitting ducks if the air defence cover is blown over. “ The Rafale with its advanced terrain following weapons and level II of Digital Terrain Elevation Data available to the Indian pilot, the error probability of the weapon is reduced to mere 10 metres. As I have said in the past, Rafale is a game changer,” former Air Chief Dhanoa said.
While Dhanoa appreciates the enemy threat, his serving IAF officers make it very clear that the Chinese equipment is not only inferior to the US equipment but also the Russian equipment. “ Why does Chinese Air Force use Russian Su-30 and Su-35 fighters while facing the US threat in South China Sea? The fact is that the Chinese fighters are no match for the American equipment Majority of Chinese equipment is reverse engineering of Russian equipment and fighters have designs of either Su-27 or Su 30 platform. They are even powered by Russian AL 31 F (Su-30) and RD 33 (MiG-29) engines,” a serving air commander told Hindustan Times.

https://www.hindustantimes.com/indi...hief-dhanoa/story-3UJINQ1r8cuGputdMeQpOJ.html

Mr B. S Dhanoa has out rightly downgraded the Chinese hardware, such complacency is not a hall mark of a professional. He should be lucky PAF spared his modesty last year, otherwise he would have been in EXILE by now. IAF with this over confident mindset might end up being decimated, if the PAF and PLAAF duo intend to show some force. Both have been practicing hard for the D DAY for some time ,in the neighbourhoods of Ladakh (Shaheen exercises). :pakistan::china:
Another BS by Mr. BS
 
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Sweets for PDF members on arrival of Rafale and tolerating MMRCA drama :D
Dhulania (Bride) ki nazar bhi to utariyay na
 
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Rafales are no game changers in their present form according to Ajay Shukla.
The jubilation around the arrival of 5 Rafales seems to overlook that:
1. They are arriving 9 months late.
2. They have no “India Specific Enhancements”, for which we paid €1.7 billion. Those will be fitted only after 2022.
3. The IAF is down to just 29 squadrons.
 
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Operational within a week? What a plethora of crap. Is it a Maruti 800 purchase that is 'just buy and drive'?

Before anyone vomits all over this thread, take the word of IAF's own Air Marshal on the subject.

According to Air Marshal Matheswaran (retd), “It would take almost a year before the first squadron is fully equipped with its strength of 18 aircraft and all associated equipment and weapons, as well as the training of all its aircrew. Similarly, the second squadron is expected to be operational by the middle of 2022. So it would be at least a year before the Rafale brings the weight of its significant capabilities to air operations in the region

https://www.financialexpress.com/de...-both-pakistan-and-china-says-expert/2036197/

I look forward to these keyboard warriors crucifying this Air Marshal for his blasphemous statement. IAF Rafales are ready. And they are already buzzing the Pakistani towers with 2000L drop tanks on their way home.
 
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Global Village Space |
On Wednesday, India received a batch of five new Rafale fighter jets in the presence of Indian Air Force (IAF) Chief Air Chief Marshal (ACM) R.K.S. Bhadauria.

The jets took off from France on Monday and landed in the UAE for an overnight stopover before reaching India. These Rafale fighter jets are part of India’s deal with France, signed in 2016 to buy 36 warplanes. The remaining Rafale fighter aircrafts are expected to reach India by the next year.

The delivery of these jets raised eyebrows amid the ongoing border tensions with China. Informed sources believe that the arrival of the jets will boost the morale of the Indian Air force, which has been facing a shortage of fighter aircraft. It is noteworthy that this is the first imported fighter to be inducted into Service since the Sukhoi-30s from Russia in the late 90s.

Read more: India, China agree to withdraw troops from Ladakh

Air Marshal (retd) Pranab Kumar Barbora, who oversaw the induction of the Jaguar aircraft fleet, said that the arrival of the Rafale was a welcome move because “it will significantly enhance the air force’s capability”.

Rafale fighter jets landed at the Ambala airbase on Wednesday afternoon in the presence of Indian Air Force (IAF) Chief Air Chief Marshal (ACM) R.K.S. Bhadauria.

Rajnath Singh, India’s Defence Minister in a series of tweets said: “The touchdown of Rafale combat aircraft in India marks the beginning of a new era in our Military History. These multirole aircraft will revolutionalise the capabilities of the IAF”.

“I would like to add, if it is anyone who should be worried about or critical about this new capability of the IAF, it should be those who want to threaten our territorial integrity,” he further added.
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India celebrates arrival of Rafale fighter jets
 
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Global Village Space |
On Wednesday, India received a batch of five new Rafale fighter jets in the presence of Indian Air Force (IAF) Chief Air Chief Marshal (ACM) R.K.S. Bhadauria.

The jets took off from France on Monday and landed in the UAE for an overnight stopover before reaching India. These Rafale fighter jets are part of India’s deal with France, signed in 2016 to buy 36 warplanes. The remaining Rafale fighter aircrafts are expected to reach India by the next year.

The delivery of these jets raised eyebrows amid the ongoing border tensions with China. Informed sources believe that the arrival of the jets will boost the morale of the Indian Air force, which has been facing a shortage of fighter aircraft. It is noteworthy that this is the first imported fighter to be inducted into Service since the Sukhoi-30s from Russia in the late 90s.

Read more: India, China agree to withdraw troops from Ladakh

Air Marshal (retd) Pranab Kumar Barbora, who oversaw the induction of the Jaguar aircraft fleet, said that the arrival of the Rafale was a welcome move because “it will significantly enhance the air force’s capability”.

Rafale fighter jets landed at the Ambala airbase on Wednesday afternoon in the presence of Indian Air Force (IAF) Chief Air Chief Marshal (ACM) R.K.S. Bhadauria.

Rajnath Singh, India’s Defence Minister in a series of tweets said: “The touchdown of Rafale combat aircraft in India marks the beginning of a new era in our Military History. These multirole aircraft will revolutionalise the capabilities of the IAF”.

“I would like to add, if it is anyone who should be worried about or critical about this new capability of the IAF, it should be those who want to threaten our territorial integrity,” he further added.
Read full article...
India celebrates arrival of Rafale fighter jets

five arrived , hope others arrive soon .we need them .
 
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