Dassault Rafale, tender | News & Discussions [Thread 2]

[kingQamaR]

well said sir... very well said...

1967 - oops we lost in Nathu La
1975 - oops we lost Sikkim
1979 - oops we lost in Vietnam
1986 - oops we lost Arunachal Pradesh
2017 - oops we lost in Doklam
2020 - oops we got badly beaten in Galwan and Laddhakh and we retreated ....
2020 continued -- oops we are being beaten on pdf

you indians waste so much of your little energy in you online !!!

shouldn’t the above defeats then give you indians some courage to do some thing back to them

40 dead Indians. Dozens we’re caught in utter loss by the PLA. locals confirming deep China gains in these areas. China quietly happy no talks not a good sign of a defeated side. All you and your compatriots are doing is flooding nothing worthwhile just your own Imagination

 

[sms]

really?View attachment 652906

Where is the second Pilot captured by PA?

 

[Crystal-Clear]

Their pilot was killed in action or worst killed by people on ground.
It's clear that they lost F16 and living up to their reputation of lying an deceit.

so indian trust american sources when they says that pla soldiers were killed but they dont truat american sources when they says that no F-16 was shot down.

 

[Ultima Thule]

Their pilot was killed in action or worst killed by people on ground.
It's clear that they lost F16 and living up to their reputation of lying an deceit.

And how about you MKI you're lying too, he is receiving to much information from different sources so it had been mistake, and remember Pentagon/LockHeed Martin personal at the bases of Pakistan where Pakistani F-16 are situated and confirmed NO PAKISTANI F-16 WERE MISSING

 

[sms]

so indian trust american sources when they says that pla soldiers were killed but they dont truat american sources when they says that no F-16 was shot down.

It's not American source, but your PA and PM' statement that that three planes down, two pilot captured. Where is second person captured?

 

[Crystal-Clear]

Where is the second captured Pilot?

there wasnt any . he cleared that in his later tweets .
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it was ahuman error he accept it . move on . show us the proofs if you have any .

for your info (as indian dont know how an actual proof looks like ) . in a skirmish proofs usually looks like this.

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[sms]

And how about you MKI you're lying too, he is receiving to much information from different sources so it had been mistake, and remember Pentagon/LockHeed Martin personal at the bases of Pakistan where Pakistani F-16 are situated and confirmed NO PAKISTANI F-16 WERE MISSING

So, second pilot was assumed Indian and killed by PA or locals. RIP
It's rare t happen in Pakistan, but we all hope he got proper burial and recognition for lying his life in line of duty.

there wasnt any . he cleared that in his later tweets .
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it was ahuman error he accept it . move on . show us the proofs if you have any .

for your info (as indian dont know how an actual proof looks like ) . in a skirmish proofs usually looks like this.View attachment 652907
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so convenient to say move one when facts are against you.

Let's look at facts..

• Pakistan said three aircraft downed = IAF said three air craft down
• Mig21- Air craft #1 PA and IAF both said Mig 21 down - confirmed
• MI-17 - PA said one downed in India not by them , IAF confirmed crash of a helicopter
• F16 - IAF said they shot F16, empirical evidence available and shared. PA said aircraft shot and downed and pilot in custody in hospital. Later no second pilot no second aircraft shot

It's evident and clear who is lying.
Please hear message from PM (so thoughtful of him) hope that will instill some wisdom ..

 

[PakSword]

Where is the second Pilot captured by PA?

He later clarified and this has been discussed so many times.

Moreover, reputed and respected international reporters who were aware of the Pakistani F-16s and the process of counting and reporting them back told the world (including Indians) that all Pakistani F-16s were accounted for.

Later, Indians claimed that they didn't count Jordanian F-16s, a theory again later debunked by the same reporter.

Christine Fair, a lady who is extremely anti Pakistan didn't tow your line. She clearly said that as much as she wanted that Indians had shot down a Pakistani jet, they didn't. She even trolled your "Ex-Brigade Major" in the same program and continued to troll other Indians on social media.

You guys need to convince your pro Indian international defense journalists first before claiming anything on PDF.

 

[alphapak]

watch this clip from 9.40

Alan warnes confirming Abhinanadhan did not fire a missile.

Abhinandhan didi not have a clue where he was nevermind
fire a missile.

 

[Crystal-Clear]

So, second pilot was assumed Indian and killed by PA or locals. RIP
It's rare t happen in Pakistan, but we all hope he got proper burial and recognition for lying his life in line of duty.


so convenient to say move one when facts are against you.

Let's look at facts..

• Pakistan said three aircraft downed = IAF said three air craft down
• Mig21- Air craft #1 PA and IAF both said Mig 21 down - confirmed
• MI-17 - PA said one downed in India not by them , IAF confirmed crash of a helicopter
• F16 - IAF said they shot F16, empirical evidence available and shared. PA said aircraft shot and downed and pilot in custody in hospital. Later no second pilot no second aircraft shot

It's evident and clear who is lying.
Please hear message from PM (so thoughtful of him) hope that will instill some wisdom ..

haha as i said it was a human error which he accepted later . same as shooting down a mi-17 was a human error .
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the point is india didnt show a single proof .
thats not the only case here .
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2016 fake surgical strike . no proofs .
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27 Feb fake downing of F-16 . no proofs .
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15 june fake claim of killing 43 Chinese soldiers . still no proofs .
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in recent 3 incidents why its always india who endsup with noo proofs ?
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there is one more thing here in all these three incident bjp had to give a face saving fake claims to survive politically . as rahul gandhi hinted today .
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one more question which you for sure wont answer .
why indian military didnt let media to visit the place which PAF Bombed?

 

[PakSword]

then those theories are wrong... with all due respect sir....

Which theories?

I am again asking you, disconnect yourself from Indian media for sometime and read some credible reports from international journalists. You will find plenty of sources to know that:

- You didn't hit a single building on 26th of Feb.
- You couldn't hit a single Pakistani jet.

Being neutral, they are even not accepting Pakistani narrative that Pak jets shot down a Su 30.

And ask question why your government/ military never showed you the places where "Pakistani bombs didn't detonate" or why they didn't show undetonated Pakistani SOWs to the media.. Even after a year, they didn't gather courage to show any one of the multiple places hit..

Reality is different than what you hear on Indian media.

 

[sms]

He later clarified and this has been discussed so many times.

Moreover, reputed and respected international reporters who were aware of the Pakistani F-16s and the process of counting and reporting them back told the world (including Indians) that all Pakistani F-16s were accounted for.

Later, Indians claimed that they didn't count Jordanian F-16s, a theory again later debunked by the same reporter.

Christine Fair, a lady who is extremely anti Pakistan didn't tow your line. She clearly said that as much as she wanted that Indians had shot down a Pakistani jet, they didn't. She even trolled your "Ex-Brigade Major" in the same program and continued to troll other Indians on social media.

You guys need to convince your pro Indian international defense journalists first before claiming anything on PDF.

Nah, no need to convince any one. Truth will come to light one day.

haha as i said it was a human error which he accepted later . same as shooting down an mi-17 was a human error .
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the point is india didnt show a single proof .
thats not the only case here .
.
2016 fake surgical strike . no proofs .
.
27 Feb fake downing of F-16 . no proofs .
.
15 june fake claim of killing 43 Chinese soldiers . still no proofs .
.
in recent 3 incidents why its always india who endsup with noo proofs ?
.
there is ne more thing here in all these three incident bjp had to give a face saving fake claims to survive politically . as rahul gandhi hinted today .

Calling Modi Govt and media liar does not make you saint and please do not bring Rahul Gandhi in to discussion, less said is better.

Let's agree to disagree, I'll believe IAF and you can trust narrative paddled by your media and Govt.

 

[PakSword]

haha as i said it was a human error which he accepted later . same as shooting down a mi-17 was a human error .
.
.
the point is india didnt show a single proof .
thats not the only case here .
.
2016 fake surgical strike . no proofs .
.
27 Feb fake downing of F-16 . no proofs .
.
15 june fake claim of killing 43 Chinese soldiers . still no proofs .
.
in recent 3 incidents why its always india who endsup with noo proofs ?
.
there is one more thing here in all these three incident bjp had to give a face saving fake claims to survive politically . as rahul gandhi hinted today .

These delusional Indians are so naive that they criticized Pakistan to take the international media a month later to the location that IAF claimed it hit, but never ask their own government to take even local journalists to the places that PAF hit. lol

 

[Crystal-Clear]

Calling Modi Govt and media liar does not make you saint and please do not bring Rahul Gandhi in to discussion, less said is better.

Let's agree to disagree, I'll believe IAF and you can trust narrative paddled by your media and Govt.

one more question which you for sure wont answer .
why indian military didnt let media to visit the place which PAF Bombed . why?
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media were there when pathankot happen they were there when uri happen but no media were allowed to film the location PAF bombed?

These delusional Indians are so naive that they criticized Pakistan to take the international media a month later to the location that IAF claimed it hit, but never ask their own government to take even local journalists to the places that PAF hit. lol

do agreee i noticed that too . but as expected indian will try to either dodge this question or will divert it towards balakot etc . let see what this vedic guy do

 

[PakSword]

Nah, no need to convince any one. Truth will come to light one day.

Truth is already out when a Pantagon correspondent told the world that all Pakistani F-16s were accounted for.

You know, it would have been very difficult for us if your forces had shown radar shots (actually MS paint pics) showing JF-17 or Mirage being hit, because they are not counted perdiodically. Just to prove the two cent worth of your IAF, you guys claimed a wrong jet. Either you guys didn't know about the inventory process, or you committed an error just like your AD committed an error on that fateful day!

media were there when pathankot happen they were there when uri happen but no media were allowed to film the location PAF bombed?

Even google maps didn't update the satellite imagery. Previously the same area was being updated more often! What a coincidence..