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[The Eagle]

No such thing happened. An admin branch officer died.

You mean this?

Two officers of the Indian Air Force were killed and two others injured in a road accident in South Kashmir’s Pulwama district.

Officials said that among the dead was a squadron leader of the IAF.

Officials said the accident took place between 3 and 4 am on Thursday morning when the Scorpio, in which the air force personnel were travelling in, met with an accident at the Malangpora village. The police got to know of the accident when the air force personnel informed them. The injured personnel are being treated at Army’s base hospital.

A senior police officer confirmed the accident and said that two personnel had been killed and two others were injured. It’s not clear yet why the air force personnel were travelling in the wee hours. The place where the accident took place is located near the air force station.

 

[drumstick]

I am waiting in line to become Chinese refugee of India. The greatest country of freedom and loveliness in the entire Earth. Jai Hind! I cannot wait until I can pull my pants down and shit on India's great streets. The smell will be the smell of freedom from CCP. Cannot wait to participate in Indians greatest sport, gang rape.

dear oh dear... you have really gone to gutters... just goes to show how frustrated these chinese actually are.... cant win a war in battlefield cant win on pdf... now where to go??

 

[Rafale+Meteor+Spectra]

You mean this?

Two officers of the Indian Air Force were killed and two others injured in a road accident in South Kashmir’s Pulwama district.

Officials said that among the dead was a squadron leader of the IAF.

Officials said the accident took place between 3 and 4 am on Thursday morning when the Scorpio, in which the air force personnel were travelling in, met with an accident at the Malangpora village. The police got to know of the accident when the air force personnel informed them. The injured personnel are being treated at Army’s base hospital.

A senior police officer confirmed the accident and said that two personnel had been killed and two others were injured. It’s not clear yet why the air force personnel were travelling in the wee hours. The place where the accident took place is located near the air force station.

Yes. Sqn Ldr RK Pandey:

 

[drumstick]

Well for Pakistan;

1. We are winning war with India - 1971- Oops we lost Bangladesh..
2. We are occupying Siachin - Oops we lost to India
3. Our soldiers are not involved in Kargil and we deny military honors to fallen (brave) soldiers - Oops we accept that soldiers were from NLI after a decade.
4. 2008 Mumbai attack is insider job - Oops Pakistani Central government minister accepts the Pakistani involvement and recognizes Kasab.
5. Surgical strikes - Ooops after few years
6. Balakote strikes - Oops after few years
7. F16 downing - Oops after few years.

Why Pakistan ends up with embarrassment after few years??

Dear @LeGenD , I apologies for trolling, however can't bear the $ht by members here.

well said sir... very well said...

1967 - oops we lost in Nathu La
1975 - oops we lost Sikkim
1979 - oops we lost in Vietnam
1986 - oops we lost Arunachal Pradesh
2017 - oops we lost in Doklam
2020 - oops we got badly beaten in Galwan and Laddhakh and we retreated ....
2020 continued -- oops we are being beaten on pdf

 

[PakSword]

You mean this?

Two officers of the Indian Air Force were killed and two others injured in a road accident in South Kashmir’s Pulwama district.

Officials said that among the dead was a squadron leader of the IAF.

Officials said the accident took place between 3 and 4 am on Thursday morning when the Scorpio, in which the air force personnel were travelling in, met with an accident at the Malangpora village. The police got to know of the accident when the air force personnel informed them. The injured personnel are being treated at Army’s base hospital.

A senior police officer confirmed the accident and said that two personnel had been killed and two others were injured. It’s not clear yet why the air force personnel were travelling in the wee hours. The place where the accident took place is located near the air force station.

Indians believed all the theories of F-16 pilot, picked names from internet (Shahzazuddin) and rejoiced. Imagine if a F-16 pilot had actually died in an accident a few days after 27th Feb.

 

[truthseeker2010]

an advise (although highly unlikely) to indians, make french pilots fly the rafale in combat in case of skrimish with PLAAF, because thats the only way rafale will able to make an impact in battle if any.

 

[Jackdaws]

Oh man.... defendant can save a lot of time but seems like, India is nowhere found to deny accusation but wants to keep up with current status quo of online anonymous declines.

Abhinandan has already said that he was looking for a target and was shot down. All the missiles found as it is, shown in picture. What's there for serial number or not. IAF believes in shooting down an F-16, which I am sure was the ill fated Chopper in IoK, should have claimed further with more evidence. Since IAF has nothing to claim in concrete as compare to PAF showing all the missiles; the onus is there for those who still denies. Not to mention that you are talking about a court proceeding in a battle field. In battlefield, the one is shot, captured, shown to the world with all his missiles & downed plane; is the one at loosing end. for IAF, show an F-16 or show a missile serial number that hit it at all or at-least show anything to prove on Int'l fora.

What I said before, was a serious question man and that wasn't intended for more questions that doesn't matter.

It's fairly simple. It wasn't the Battle of Britain being fought over the English Channel with dozens of planes. It was a pretty small skirmish. For Pakistan to initially claim there are 3 pilots, then claim 2 pilots and finally say only 1. India could have denied that they shot down own chopper. That is an actual failure and embarrassment. It owned up.

Facts will eventually come out. Till then, we will believe the narratives of our nations as that's natural. I don't buy 300 dead in Balakot. And Modi marketing of "surgical strike" in 2016 is also doubtful. But it's not as if Pakistan has a great track record of honesty either. History and time will eventually vindicate one narrative. Till then, enjoy the barbs online.

 

[drumstick]

It's fairly simple. It wasn't the Battle of Britain being fought over the English Channel with dozens of planes. It was a pretty small skirmish. For Pakistan to initially claim there are 3 pilots, then claim 2 pilots and finally say only 1. India could have denied that they shot down own chopper. That is an actual failure and embarrassment. It owned up.

Facts will eventually come out. Till then, we will believe the narratives of our nations as that's natural. I don't buy 300 dead in Balakot. And Modi marketing of "surgical strike" in 2016 is also doubtful. But it's not as if Pakistan has a great track record of honesty either. History and time will eventually vindicate one narrative. Till then, enjoy the barbs online.

what about grainy photo of R73 coming out of pakistan? we are in an age where cheapest mobile have double digit pixel capacity and here we have pak army with photo from 1940's ... this may be one of the most important point to talk.... also,
1. three / two pilots theory, ispr and pm ik said the same thing... all the locals and i mean ALL the locals were caught saying two pilots.... this was clincher actually
2. irrefutable radar evidence....
3. chatter intercepted from pakistan airspace on the morning of 27th feb

but above all, the events of 26th feb were more significant...missiles hit its target...and the spice missiles were designed to hit the target with a hole in roof and damaging the building from inside not outside... this was chosen deliberately so there is no hue and cry on civilian casualties... and it worked in our favor... pakistan never got any sympathy from world even when they played victim card repeatedly....
and the targets were inside pakistan just goes to show what we can do.... all your radars, SAMS and CAP's caught napping .... this was a body blow to any nation.

just to stretch his one more min, night of 26th Feb and 26th Feb there was a tweet from paf that sleep tight pakistan because paf is awake.... cant be a bigger facepalm moment than this....

what was retaliation the next day? dropping bombs which did not explode from a stand off distance? come on... when we breached LoC and IB you should have done the same to match... how its a equal response when your weapons were fired from your own airspace?

above all it took pakistan 11 years to accept your involvement in Kargill war.... we know how it goes....blatant refusal to begin with and then gradual acceptance after long time....Mumbai attack is also a prime example....
its just a year and half... we have long time to go...

 

[PakSword]

Till then, we will believe the narratives of our nations as that's natural.

I don't buy 300 dead in Balakot. And Modi marketing of "surgical strike" in 2016 is also doubtful.

Don't you think above two statements are contradictory?

what about grainy photo of R73 coming out of pakistan? we are in an age where cheapest mobile have double digit pixel capacity and here we have pak army with photo from 1940's ... this may be one of the most important point to talk.... also,
1. three / two pilots theory, ispr and pm ik said the same thing... all the locals and i mean ALL the locals were caught saying two pilots.... this was clincher actually
2. irrefutable radar evidence....
3. chatter intercepted from pakistan airspace on the morning of 27th feb

but above all, the events of 26th feb were more significant...missiles hit its target...and the spice missiles were designed to hit the target with a hole in roof and damaging the building from inside not outside... this was chosen deliberately so there is no hue and cry on civilian casualties... and it worked in our favor... pakistan never got any sympathy from world even when they played victim card repeatedly....
and the targets were inside pakistan just goes to show what we can do.... all your radars, SAMS and CAP's caught napping .... this was a body blow to any nation.

just to stretch his one more min, night of 26th Feb and 26th Feb there was a tweet from paf that sleep tight pakistan because paf is awake.... cant be a bigger facepalm moment than this....

what was retaliation the next day? dropping bombs which did not explode from a stand off distance? come on... when we breached LoC and IB you should have done the same to match... how its a equal response when your weapons were fired from your own airspace?

above all it took pakistan 11 years to accept your involvement in Kargill war.... we know how it goes....blatant refusal to begin with and then gradual acceptance after long time....Mumbai attack is also a prime example....
its just a year and half... we have long time to go...

Stop watching Indian media. Search for the international sources. If not comfirmtable, listen to Christine Fair, who is pro Indian so that you find some courage to watch and listen to her.

Thanks.

BTW, all your "facts" have been debunked here, and by many international experts.

 

[Jackdaws]

what about grainy photo of R73 coming out of pakistan? we are in an age where cheapest mobile have double digit pixel capacity and here we have pak army with photo from 1940's ... this may be one of the most important point to talk.... also,
1. three / two pilots theory, ispr and pm ik said the same thing... all the locals and i mean ALL the locals were caught saying two pilots.... this was clincher actually
2. irrefutable radar evidence....
3. chatter intercepted from pakistan airspace on the morning of 27th feb

but above all, the events of 26th feb were more significant...missiles hit its target...and the spice missiles were designed to hit the target with a hole in roof and damaging the building from inside not outside... this was chosen deliberately so there is no hue and cry on civilian casualties... and it worked in our favor... pakistan never got any sympathy from world even when they played victim card repeatedly....
and the targets were inside pakistan just goes to show what we can do.... all your radars, SAMS and CAP's caught napping .... this was a body blow to any nation.

just to stretch his one more min, night of 26th Feb and 26th Feb there was a tweet from paf that sleep tight pakistan because paf is awake.... cant be a bigger facepalm moment than this....

what was retaliation the next day? dropping bombs which did not explode from a stand off distance? come on... when we breached LoC and IB you should have done the same to match... how its a equal response when your weapons were fired from your own airspace?

above all it took pakistan 11 years to accept your involvement in Kargill war.... we know how it goes....blatant refusal to begin with and then gradual acceptance after long time....Mumbai attack is also a prime example....
its just a year and half... we have long time to go...

Actually they accepted their involvement in Pak within a few months. 8 PoWs of theirs were hospitalized in Delhi and they flew them back.

But sides exaggerate their heroics and downplay their shortcomings. First time I met a Pakistani in the US, he was as shocked as I was when it the narratives of the entire war of 1965 were completely different. He was convinced Pak won that war. I was convinced India did. Truth was it was pretty much a military stalemate. If an entire war can have such divergent narratives, I am not shocked that one minor skirmish does too.

Don't you think above two statements are contradictory?



Stop watching Indian media. Search for the international sources. If not comfirmtable, listen to Christine Fair, who is pro Indian so that you find some courage to watch and listen to her.

Thanks.

BTW, all your "facts" have been debunked here, and by many international experts.

Yes. Let me explain. I don't buy what the Modi Govt explains and sells to its daft supporters. I tend to believe the military narrative more because they themselves know that one day the Govt will change. If you notice, the Air Force blatantly refused to say 300 dead or give a number.

Bhakts on the other hand -

 

[HalfMoon]

India does not have S-300s. It is China who has S-300 copies including HQ-9.

Also S-400 too cannot work against Rafale

India does have S-300s.

 

[drumstick]

Don't you think above two statements are contradictory?
Stop watching Indian media.

Nothing ins from Indian media..... if you see pakistani news anchors going to villages near LoC after 27th Feb incident you will hear many people getting interviewed and telling that they saw 2 parachutes....

how can any Indian media can go to other side of LoC?

moreover, first ispr takes a PC and tells everyone that there are two pilots in custody one is admitted to militery hospital and other is their custody.... if Abhi was one who was other?

Then your pm ik says same thing on national TV, these folks must be questioned first.... this is not counting of millions to get one error.... its either one or two...

Search for the international sources. If not comfirmtable, listen to Christine Fair, who is pro Indian so that you find some courage to watch and listen to her.

I consider pakistani news channels and international media

Thanks.

thanks to you sir

BTW, all your "facts" have been debunked here, and by many international experts.

then those theories are wrong... with all due respect sir....

 

[sms]

what about grainy photo of R73 coming out of pakistan? we are in an age where cheapest mobile have double digit pixel capacity and here we have pak army with photo from 1940's ... this may be one of the most important point to talk.... also,
1. three / two pilots theory, ispr and pm ik said the same thing... all the locals and i mean ALL the locals were caught saying two pilots.... this was clincher actually
2. irrefutable radar evidence....
3. chatter intercepted from pakistan airspace on the morning of 27th feb

but above all, the events of 26th feb were more significant...missiles hit its target...and the spice missiles were designed to hit the target with a hole in roof and damaging the building from inside not outside... this was chosen deliberately so there is no hue and cry on civilian casualties... and it worked in our favor... pakistan never got any sympathy from world even when they played victim card repeatedly....
and the targets were inside pakistan just goes to show what we can do.... all your radars, SAMS and CAP's caught napping .... this was a body blow to any nation.

just to stretch his one more min, night of 26th Feb and 26th Feb there was a tweet from paf that sleep tight pakistan because paf is awake.... cant be a bigger facepalm moment than this....

what was retaliation the next day? dropping bombs which did not explode from a stand off distance? come on... when we breached LoC and IB you should have done the same to match... how its a equal response when your weapons were fired from your own airspace?

above all it took pakistan 11 years to accept your involvement in Kargill war.... we know how it goes....blatant refusal to begin with and then gradual acceptance after long time....Mumbai attack is also a prime example....
its just a year and half... we have long time to go...

Their pilot was killed in action or worst killed by people on ground.
It's clear that they lost F16 and living up to their reputation of lying an deceit.

 

[Crystal-Clear]

So do you.

really?

 

[Khan vilatey]

Ask your air force boys where they got the Amraam missile piece from?

Also let us know How Abhinandhan who didn't even know where he was,
shoot down a F16 without firing a missile? Or does the Miog21 squirt cow urine to
shoot down F16's?

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