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Strange ... while you have this other reliable sources I know say it was again only a rehearsal and the commissioning will only occur tomorrow:
https://twitter.com/OedoSoldier/status/1206868157803028480
Here this guy however agrees with your report?
https://www.weibo.com/u/7338895219?profile_ftype=1&is_all=1#_0
How much official or reliable is this one?
https://www.weibo.com/2656274875/IlcYh1sc8?type=comment#_rnd1576578126942
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It's the CCTV official account, it says President Xi has attended the commission ceremony, China has entered the dual AC era!
China Daily reports it is Shandong, No.17
From the China Daily report:
President Xi Jinping, also general secretary of the Communist Party of China Central Committee and chairman of the Central Military Commission, took part in the commissioning ceremony for the colossal ship, named after the eastern province of Shandong, at a naval base in the coastal city and personally handed the military flag to Senior Captain Lai Yijun, its commanding officer.
From the China Daily report:
President Xi Jinping, also general secretary of the Communist Party of China Central Committee and chairman of the Central Military Commission, took part in the commissioning ceremony for the colossal ship, named after the eastern province of Shandong, at a naval base in the coastal city and personally handed the military flag to Senior Captain Lai Yijun, its commanding officer.
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1st domestically developed aircraft carrier commissioned
By Zhao Lei | chinadaily.com.cn | Updated: 2019-12-17 18:03
China's first home-built aircraft carrier leaves Dalian in Northeast China's Liaoning province for sea trials on May 13, 2018. [Photo/Xinhua]
China commissioned CNS Shandong — its second aircraft carrier and the first such ship wholly designed and built in the country — in Sanya, Hainan province, on Tuesday afternoon.
President Xi Jinping, also general secretary of the Communist Party of China Central Committee and chairman of the Central Military Commission, took part in the commissioning ceremony for the colossal ship, named after the eastern province of Shandong, at a naval base in the coastal city and personally handed the military flag to Senior Captain Lai Yijun, its commanding officer.
The move saw China enter an elite club of world powers that operate multiple carriers. There were previously only three countries with more than one carrier in active service — the United States, the United Kingdom and Italy.
Before Tuesday, the People's Liberation Army Navy had a sole carrier — CNS Liaoning — which was originally a Soviet-era vessel and was extensively refitted at the Dalian shipyard in Liaoning province. It went into service in September 2012 and has executed several long-range operations with other warships in its carrier battle group.
During the delivery ceremony on Tuesday, Xi also inspected CNS Shandong, which had several J-15 fighter jets on its flight deck.
The deployment of the fighter jets on the new carrier was a stark contrast to the first service days of CNS Liaoning, that did not feature any combat aircraft. It also indicates CNS Shandong has likely gained initial operational capability.
Carrying the hull designation number 17, CNS Shandong is the largest, mightiest and most sophisticated naval ship ever developed and built in China.
Its construction began in November 2013 at Dalian Shipbuilding Industry, a subsidiary of China State Shipbuilding Corp, the world's largest shipbuilder.
It was launched in April 2017, conducted its maiden sea trial in May last year, and conducted eight other sea trials before being commissioned.
The ship set sail from the Dalian shipyard, bound for Sanya, in the middle of last month on its final sea trial and farthest voyage to date, sailing through the Taiwan Straits on the way.
According to information published by the Navy, CNS Shandong displaces at least 50,000 metric tons of water. It has conventional propulsion systems and uses a ramp to launch J-15 fighter jets, the spearhead of China's carriers, like CNS Liaoning. The ship also deploys several types of helicopters.
By Zhao Lei | chinadaily.com.cn | Updated: 2019-12-17 18:03
China commissioned CNS Shandong — its second aircraft carrier and the first such ship wholly designed and built in the country — in Sanya, Hainan province, on Tuesday afternoon.
President Xi Jinping, also general secretary of the Communist Party of China Central Committee and chairman of the Central Military Commission, took part in the commissioning ceremony for the colossal ship, named after the eastern province of Shandong, at a naval base in the coastal city and personally handed the military flag to Senior Captain Lai Yijun, its commanding officer.
The move saw China enter an elite club of world powers that operate multiple carriers. There were previously only three countries with more than one carrier in active service — the United States, the United Kingdom and Italy.
Before Tuesday, the People's Liberation Army Navy had a sole carrier — CNS Liaoning — which was originally a Soviet-era vessel and was extensively refitted at the Dalian shipyard in Liaoning province. It went into service in September 2012 and has executed several long-range operations with other warships in its carrier battle group.
During the delivery ceremony on Tuesday, Xi also inspected CNS Shandong, which had several J-15 fighter jets on its flight deck.
The deployment of the fighter jets on the new carrier was a stark contrast to the first service days of CNS Liaoning, that did not feature any combat aircraft. It also indicates CNS Shandong has likely gained initial operational capability.
Carrying the hull designation number 17, CNS Shandong is the largest, mightiest and most sophisticated naval ship ever developed and built in China.
Its construction began in November 2013 at Dalian Shipbuilding Industry, a subsidiary of China State Shipbuilding Corp, the world's largest shipbuilder.
It was launched in April 2017, conducted its maiden sea trial in May last year, and conducted eight other sea trials before being commissioned.
The ship set sail from the Dalian shipyard, bound for Sanya, in the middle of last month on its final sea trial and farthest voyage to date, sailing through the Taiwan Straits on the way.
According to information published by the Navy, CNS Shandong displaces at least 50,000 metric tons of water. It has conventional propulsion systems and uses a ramp to launch J-15 fighter jets, the spearhead of China's carriers, like CNS Liaoning. The ship also deploys several types of helicopters.
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China commissions 2nd aircraft carrier
By Liu Xuanzun and Guo Yuandan Source:Global Times Published: 2019/12/17 18:02:14
Warship named Shandong, to be deployed in S.China Sea
Photo: VCG
China’s second aircraft carrier, the country’s first domestically built one, the Shandong (hull 17), was delivered and commissioned to the People’s Liberation Army (PLA) Navy on Tuesday in Sanya, South China’s Hainan Province, after refitting and sea trials since its launch in 2017.
The commissioning marked China’s entry into an age of double carriers, an achievement only a few countries in the world have accomplished and will enrich the Navy’s tactical and strategic choices in time, space and sheer power, experts said.
Overseen by President Xi Jinping, who is also chairman of the Central Military Commission, the aircraft carrier received a grand commissioning ceremony at a naval base in Sanya.
Xi endorsed a PLA flag and naming certificate to the captain and political commissar of the carrier at the ceremony, which was held Tuesday afternoon with about 5,000 people in attendance.
Construction of China’s first domestically built aircraft carrier the Shandong, began in November 2013. It was launched in April 2017 at the Dalian Shipyard, Northeast China’s Liaoning Province.
In May 2018, the ship set out for its first sea trial. It conducted eight more sea trials, with the ninth one in November this year that saw the warship leaving Dalian, heading south, passing through the Taiwan Straits, entered the South China Sea, and finally arrived in Sanya, its mother base.
Military analysts believe the Shandong was built based on the experience of China’s first carrier, the Liaoning, which was an incomplete Soviet ship that China purchased and completed construction.
Having a displacement of around 40,000-60,000 tons and using a similar ski-jump flight deck as the Liaoning, the conventional-powered Shandong is equipped with more advanced electronic devices and control and command system, and built with an optimized superstructure and internal layout, after gaining actual-use experiences following the Liaoning’s commissioning in 2012, analysts said.
Thanks to these significant improvements, the second carrier is not a copy of the first one and is much more powerful. For example, it can carry 36 J-15 fighter jets, compared to the Liaoning’s 24, according to a China Central Television (CCTV) report in August.
Military experts pointed out that the commissioning of the Shandong also made China the first Asian country to operate an independently developed aircraft carrier after World War II.
Li Jie, a Beijing-based naval expert, told the Global Times that this shows China’s comprehensive national strength, with a very high level of naval equipment and technologies applied. China’s development in large ship design and construction, ship-aircraft integration and weapon system is maturing, Li said.
Hundreds of institutes from multiple Chinese provinces took part in the carrier’s construction, the Global Times learned.
Greater options
Technical aspects aside, the more imminent impact the commissioning of the Shandong has on the PLA Navy is that the Navy now has an additional aircraft carrier, which gives the Navy more tactical and strategic options in using carriers.
In terms of location, the Shandong is based in Sanya near the South China Sea, while the Liaoning is based in Qingdao, East China’s Shandong Province near the East China Sea, Yellow Sea and Bohai Sea.
Having one carrier in the east and another in the south will ensure fast reaction time when the presence of an aircraft carrier is needed, a military expert who asked not to be named told the Global Times.
The US has been frequently sending warships and aircraft into Chinese territorial waters and airspace in the South China Sea, and China could use the carrier as a deterrent, the expert said.
The second aircraft carrier based in the south can effectively patrol the South China Sea, protect islands and reefs there and act as a strategic foothold at sea, Beijing-based military analyst Wei Dongxu told the Global Times.
While the Liaoning could go from the East China Sea to the Pacific Ocean and train more pilots and officers, the Shandong could sail from the South China Sea into the Pacific Ocean and even go to the Indian Ocean, Wei said.
One carrier could also stay near the mainland for alert missions, while the other could sail farther away into high seas for long-range missions, analysts said.
In terms of time, regular maintenance is needed for a carrier to stay combat ready. When one carrier is under maintenance or repair, the other could take over its missions so China will always have a carrier to deploy, Li pointed out.
Another new choice is to let the two carriers form a dual-carrier battle group for maximum combat capability.
Li said a dual-carrier battle group will boost China’s maritime combat capability, because a moderate or more intensive regional conflict, especially in high seas, requires at least 45 carrier-based aircraft to achieve regional air and sea superiority, which is not possible with a single Chinese aircraft carrier.
Together with escorting guided missile destroyers like the Type 055 and Type 052D, frigates like Type 054A, as well as submarines and supplemental ships, the aircraft carriers could provide formidable power that China did not have in the past, the anonymous expert said.
China’s aircraft carriers will sail into the high seas farther away from its mainland to safeguard crucial sea lanes that are used for trade and protect China’s growing overseas interests like cooperation projects, investments and overseas citizens, the anonymous expert said, noting that aircraft carriers can complete these tasks more efficiently than smaller ships like destroyers and frigates.
More to come
Despite Shandong’s commissioning, China’s aircraft carrier development still lags far behind that of the US, which operates 11 super carriers in Nimitz and Ford-classes. They are nuclear-powered and have displacements of over 100,000 tons.
China is reportedly building a third, larger and more advanced aircraft carrier.
The Xinhua News Agency first reported in November 2018 that China was building a new type of aircraft carrier. Jin Yi'nan, a professor at National Defense University of the PLA, said on CCTV in November that the third carrier is under construction at Jiangnan Shipyard in Shanghai.
Military experts speculate the third carrier could have a displacement of around 80,000 tons, use flat deck with electromagnetic catapults to replace the ski-jump deck, thus making it capable of carrying more aircraft in terms of both number and type, and launching fighter jets more efficiently.
China could eventually operate around six carriers, as later entries could become nuclear-powered, they predicted.
Chinese military enthusiasts are also hoping China would develop a next generation aircraft carrier-based fighter jet, which they believe should be stealth-capable and could rival the US’ F-35B and F-35C.
A modified version of the J-20, an improved version of the FC-31 and an entirely new fighter jet are all on the table, analysts said.
By Liu Xuanzun and Guo Yuandan Source:Global Times Published: 2019/12/17 18:02:14
Warship named Shandong, to be deployed in S.China Sea
China’s second aircraft carrier, the country’s first domestically built one, the Shandong (hull 17), was delivered and commissioned to the People’s Liberation Army (PLA) Navy on Tuesday in Sanya, South China’s Hainan Province, after refitting and sea trials since its launch in 2017.
The commissioning marked China’s entry into an age of double carriers, an achievement only a few countries in the world have accomplished and will enrich the Navy’s tactical and strategic choices in time, space and sheer power, experts said.
Overseen by President Xi Jinping, who is also chairman of the Central Military Commission, the aircraft carrier received a grand commissioning ceremony at a naval base in Sanya.
Xi endorsed a PLA flag and naming certificate to the captain and political commissar of the carrier at the ceremony, which was held Tuesday afternoon with about 5,000 people in attendance.
Construction of China’s first domestically built aircraft carrier the Shandong, began in November 2013. It was launched in April 2017 at the Dalian Shipyard, Northeast China’s Liaoning Province.
In May 2018, the ship set out for its first sea trial. It conducted eight more sea trials, with the ninth one in November this year that saw the warship leaving Dalian, heading south, passing through the Taiwan Straits, entered the South China Sea, and finally arrived in Sanya, its mother base.
Military analysts believe the Shandong was built based on the experience of China’s first carrier, the Liaoning, which was an incomplete Soviet ship that China purchased and completed construction.
Having a displacement of around 40,000-60,000 tons and using a similar ski-jump flight deck as the Liaoning, the conventional-powered Shandong is equipped with more advanced electronic devices and control and command system, and built with an optimized superstructure and internal layout, after gaining actual-use experiences following the Liaoning’s commissioning in 2012, analysts said.
Thanks to these significant improvements, the second carrier is not a copy of the first one and is much more powerful. For example, it can carry 36 J-15 fighter jets, compared to the Liaoning’s 24, according to a China Central Television (CCTV) report in August.
Military experts pointed out that the commissioning of the Shandong also made China the first Asian country to operate an independently developed aircraft carrier after World War II.
Li Jie, a Beijing-based naval expert, told the Global Times that this shows China’s comprehensive national strength, with a very high level of naval equipment and technologies applied. China’s development in large ship design and construction, ship-aircraft integration and weapon system is maturing, Li said.
Hundreds of institutes from multiple Chinese provinces took part in the carrier’s construction, the Global Times learned.
Greater options
Technical aspects aside, the more imminent impact the commissioning of the Shandong has on the PLA Navy is that the Navy now has an additional aircraft carrier, which gives the Navy more tactical and strategic options in using carriers.
In terms of location, the Shandong is based in Sanya near the South China Sea, while the Liaoning is based in Qingdao, East China’s Shandong Province near the East China Sea, Yellow Sea and Bohai Sea.
Having one carrier in the east and another in the south will ensure fast reaction time when the presence of an aircraft carrier is needed, a military expert who asked not to be named told the Global Times.
The US has been frequently sending warships and aircraft into Chinese territorial waters and airspace in the South China Sea, and China could use the carrier as a deterrent, the expert said.
The second aircraft carrier based in the south can effectively patrol the South China Sea, protect islands and reefs there and act as a strategic foothold at sea, Beijing-based military analyst Wei Dongxu told the Global Times.
While the Liaoning could go from the East China Sea to the Pacific Ocean and train more pilots and officers, the Shandong could sail from the South China Sea into the Pacific Ocean and even go to the Indian Ocean, Wei said.
One carrier could also stay near the mainland for alert missions, while the other could sail farther away into high seas for long-range missions, analysts said.
In terms of time, regular maintenance is needed for a carrier to stay combat ready. When one carrier is under maintenance or repair, the other could take over its missions so China will always have a carrier to deploy, Li pointed out.
Another new choice is to let the two carriers form a dual-carrier battle group for maximum combat capability.
Li said a dual-carrier battle group will boost China’s maritime combat capability, because a moderate or more intensive regional conflict, especially in high seas, requires at least 45 carrier-based aircraft to achieve regional air and sea superiority, which is not possible with a single Chinese aircraft carrier.
Together with escorting guided missile destroyers like the Type 055 and Type 052D, frigates like Type 054A, as well as submarines and supplemental ships, the aircraft carriers could provide formidable power that China did not have in the past, the anonymous expert said.
China’s aircraft carriers will sail into the high seas farther away from its mainland to safeguard crucial sea lanes that are used for trade and protect China’s growing overseas interests like cooperation projects, investments and overseas citizens, the anonymous expert said, noting that aircraft carriers can complete these tasks more efficiently than smaller ships like destroyers and frigates.
More to come
Despite Shandong’s commissioning, China’s aircraft carrier development still lags far behind that of the US, which operates 11 super carriers in Nimitz and Ford-classes. They are nuclear-powered and have displacements of over 100,000 tons.
China is reportedly building a third, larger and more advanced aircraft carrier.
The Xinhua News Agency first reported in November 2018 that China was building a new type of aircraft carrier. Jin Yi'nan, a professor at National Defense University of the PLA, said on CCTV in November that the third carrier is under construction at Jiangnan Shipyard in Shanghai.
Military experts speculate the third carrier could have a displacement of around 80,000 tons, use flat deck with electromagnetic catapults to replace the ski-jump deck, thus making it capable of carrying more aircraft in terms of both number and type, and launching fighter jets more efficiently.
China could eventually operate around six carriers, as later entries could become nuclear-powered, they predicted.
Chinese military enthusiasts are also hoping China would develop a next generation aircraft carrier-based fighter jet, which they believe should be stealth-capable and could rival the US’ F-35B and F-35C.
A modified version of the J-20, an improved version of the FC-31 and an entirely new fighter jet are all on the table, analysts said.
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