Crown prince invites PM Imran to visit Saudi Arabia

[T-SaGe]

I hope it's true but there are countries that i don't trust. i don't trust Arabs and i don't trust Iran as well. both are evils. anyway i hope you are right. Turkish side is ready to help Pakistan unlike Saudia who threatens us and this is the same Saudia who is under Indian and Israeli influence.

Daily populist debates or disputes are part of life, I admit. However, we, as individuals, should be able to look at distant horizons. We can fix things that differentiate our interests. If we can be a whole, we can direct world politics. If dont, We cannot break the current paradigm.

We should discuss more and learn more about our concerns. Please don't get me wrong, but if you ask me, almost all of the problems between these societies are the product of a structure that wants to create fault lines between these countries. I don't want to speak behalf of others, but why would the Saudis want Pakistan's evil? Especially after 2016, the problems between KSA and TR are quite visible, but for God's sake, are these problems bigger than our brotherhood and beloved Prophet(sav)'s counsels?

We need to learn to trust each other so that we can take our future into our own hands. We must leave a spirit of brotherhood to our future generations, not seeds of hate.

 

[HAIDER]

Hope he is sending the plane too.

So snub by US then India and then China-Iran deal appeared to have spooked the Prince..... or is he going to talk about next year's Hobura bustard hunting tour?

And did a very childish act, after Imran Khan UN speech he called in his plane.

 

[Menace2Society]

Daily populist debates or disputes are part of life, I admit. However, we, as individuals, should be able to look at distant horizons. We can fix things that differentiate our interests. If we can be a whole, we can direct world politics. If dont, We cannot break the current paradigm.

We should discuss more and learn more about our concerns. Please don't get me wrong, but if you ask me, almost all of the problems between these societies are the product of a structure that wants to create fault lines between these countries. I don't want to speak behalf of others, but why would the Saudis want Pakistan's evil? Especially after 2016, the problems between KSA and TR are quite visible, but for God's sake, are these problems bigger than our brotherhood and beloved Prophet(sav)'s counsels?

We need to learn to trust each other so that we can take our future into our own hands. We must leave a spirit of brotherhood to our future generations, not seeds of hate.

How did the ottoman empire end? What good did ottoman empire provide Pakistan? Nothing, Pakistan is still in poverty just more slave workers and terrorists. Pakistan gets nothing from its relationship with the muslim world, it needs to be recalibrated.

I am all for friendships and brotherhood and if faith unites then so be it but when they are one sided and all Pakistan does is run around celebrating other countries achievements and history and gets nothing back then that is toxicity at its finest.

Look at the five eyes, now that is collaboration and a relationship based on trust and trade. This is the aim, not flipflopping monarchies and despots looking for the next batch of slave workers, enough already.

 

[nahtanbob]

KSA literally begged America for protection from Saddam, dude at least man up and accept the reality, yes today KSA military is strong on paper but back in the days, your leaders run to America and ask them for protection.
But I know you won't agree with it, but whatever floats your boat.

It is in nobody's interest for Saddam to gobble up Kuwait. Everyone from Iran to Syria helped USA drive out Iraqi army from Kuwait

 

[Goritoes]

It is in nobody's interest for Saddam to gobble up Kuwait. Everyone from Iran to Syria helped USA drive out Iraqi army from Kuwait

But KSA went a head and let Americans build permanent military bases in the Kingdom, which upset many including a guy name Osama bin laden rest is part of history.

 

[nahtanbob]

But KSA went a head and let Americans build permanent military bases in the Kingdom, which upset many including a guy name Osama bin laden rest is part of history.

Saddam controlling Kuwait was not an option. we cannot change history

 

[jamal18]

How about ' recognise Israel or else?'.

 

[Goritoes]

Saddam controlling Kuwait was not an option. we cannot change history

Of course you can not, but right decision would've saved those poor 3000 Americans and millions more who died in later wars and conflicts .

 

[TNT]

If a country gives Pakistan some respect, Pakistanis start to think they need us. Seriously??
Pak saudi relations are deep and old and very close. Only certain type of dumb Pakistanis want that harmed.

 

[aziqbal]

Pakistan first

Imran Khan is great at keep good ties with everyone fool them all, keeping Chinese happy also balancing with US

Keeping Russia happy and also MBS

take what you need give nothing great leader

 

[nahtanbob]

Of course you can not, but right decision would've saved those poor 3000 Americans and millions more who died in later wars and conflicts .

you assume a lot of deaths won't happen

 

[Deltadart]

so they need us again...

ok

We need each other, especially during these uncertain times.

 

[Arsalan345]

Daily populist debates or disputes are part of life, I admit. However, we, as individuals, should be able to look at distant horizons. We can fix things that differentiate our interests. If we can be a whole, we can direct world politics. If dont, We cannot break the current paradigm.

We should discuss more and learn more about our concerns. Please don't get me wrong, but if you ask me, almost all of the problems between these societies are the product of a structure that wants to create fault lines between these countries. I don't want to speak behalf of others, but why would the Saudis want Pakistan's evil? Especially after 2016, the problems between KSA and TR are quite visible, but for God's sake, are these problems bigger than our brotherhood and beloved Prophet(sav)'s counsels?

We need to learn to trust each other so that we can take our future into our own hands. We must leave a spirit of brotherhood to our future generations, not seeds of hate.

I agree but topic of India is a sensitive matter. Saudi relations with India are now strong and Arab countries specially UAE are now the best buddy of India. These are sensitive issues. Saudis in indian camp is a big change and everyone knows about Trump role and how Israel approached saudia! Enemies of pakistan are now friends of saudia. This is a security challenge for us. You have your problems with turkey but pakistan has every right to reset ties and I still want pakistan to stay away from Arabs. We have been asked to give the money back on exact dates, without any extension. This happened for the first time and we know who is running the show. Pakistan knows India and we hate India and our friends are now in indian camp, which means end of relations. Brotherhood and ummah chummah is for kids. Real world is totally different.

 

[Arsalan345]

How did the ottoman empire end? What good did ottoman empire provide Pakistan? Nothing, Pakistan is still in poverty just more slave workers and terrorists. Pakistan gets nothing from its relationship with the muslim world, it needs to be recalibrated.

I am all for friendships and brotherhood and if faith unites then so be it but when they are one sided and all Pakistan does is run around celebrating other countries achievements and history and gets nothing back then that is toxicity at its finest.

Look at the five eyes, now that is collaboration and a relationship based on trust and trade. This is the aim, not flipflopping monarchies and despots looking for the next batch of slave workers, enough already.

Excellent analysis. I hope this post of yours will open eyes of brotherhood lovers. Do you remember how saudia demanded us not to form a Bloc(Turkish Bloc)? And what about all those threats of deportation of pakistani workers? All aren't lies. It's time to open eyes. Take some, give some. One side shouldn't control the whole game. Both sides should be allowed to play the game according to their own expertise. I still say don't trust Arabs specially saudia. We aren't slaves. We can progress with the other Bloc. Turkey is willing to help but they can't give us loans. No easy money. Pakistan should stop desire for dollars. Enough humiliation already. Look at our ties with India. Ties reset after abrogation! What a joke!

 

[PradoTLC]

We need each other, especially during these uncertain times.

perhaps... but we have shown our determination to press on regardless