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:rofl: Good grief. Bangladesh has 1 grounded Mig-29. How much fly time do you think the pilots of the great Bangladeshi airforce get in it? They might have some F-7's lacking BVR, but it's all old technology, useless in any air warfare. And Bangladeshi pilots are most definitely not known as the best in South Asia. :crazy:

So what is your point? Bangladesh is a small country. Its capabilities cannot be expected to match those of Pakistan. Go snigger at someone your own size.
Small countries like Sweden and Poland have done well for themselves. There is not reason why Bangladesh cannot do well on its own.
Small countries have a lot more advantages than you think.


Then take back your millions of illegals in Pakistan. Then perhaps I'd agree. It's as simple as this. If tomorrow Bangladesh severed all ties with Pakistan, the Pakistani economy might lose a rupee. Bangladesh would lose billions in remittances, free ancient subs for its Navy and spare parts for its airforce amongst others.

As I said, go pick on someone your own size.

Right-ee-oh, if it's all about self respect, and you guys hate Pakistan so much, why indeed do you keep going to Pakistan as illegals? I'll tell you..Stronger currency, plus less discrimination even in today's Pakistan compared to what you get in Bharat.

Really. We all know about the famous Pakistani secular democracy, don't we. Don't ***** about B'desh democracy when your own country's future is looking more ominous by the day.
 
& what about the biharis in Bangladesh when will you Pakistanis take them??? Bangladesh losing billions for severing ties with Pakistan man first of all if your Pakistan would be lucky enough to have that much money in the first place it would not have sold its own citizens to Uncle SAM for ECONOMIC AID jeez what double standards

Most of what's been written is not worthy of a reply so won't get one. However this....I am all in favour of an exchange of the Bihari population for the illegal Bangladeshis in Pakistan. A straightforward swap. They can even do the work the Bangladeshis are currently doing as legal citizens. The Biharis however ARE citizens of Bangladesh. They moved to East Pakistan and got Pakistani citizenship, then the war finished, and everyone in East Pakistan had their Pakistani citizenship removed, and a Bangladeshi citizenship given to them. Some Biharis refused, and I'm in favour of them being given Pakistani citizenship exhanging them for the illegal Bangladeshis in Pakistan.

Oh and the economic aid is an old discredited argument that's been discredited by the world bank and imf. It's solid internal growth that has produced the economic rise of Pakistan. And no nothing of what you wrote hurt very much, as I know what the facts are between the two countries.
 
Most of what's been written is not worthy of a reply so won't get one. However this....I am all in favour of an exchange of the Bihari population for the illegal Bangladeshis in Pakistan. A straightforward swap. They can even do the work the Bangladeshis are currently doing as legal citizens. The Biharis however ARE citizens of Bangladesh. They moved to East Pakistan and got Pakistani citizenship, then the war finished, and everyone in East Pakistan had their Pakistani citizenship removed, and a Bangladeshi citizenship given to them. Some Biharis refused, and I'm in favour of them being given Pakistani citizenship exhanging them for the illegal Bangladeshis in Pakistan.

Oh and the economic aid is an old discredited argument that's been discredited by the world bank and imf. It's solid internal growth that has produced the economic rise of Pakistan. And no nothing of what you wrote hurt very much, as I know what the facts are between the two countries.

to argue with you would be a waste of time sorry no more attention for you:blah: :blah: :blah: tough luck not worth it:tsk:
 
Oh and the economic aid is an old discredited argument that's been discredited by the world bank and imf. It's solid internal growth that has produced the economic rise of Pakistan. And no nothing of what you wrote hurt very much, as I know what the facts are between the two countries.

Oh yeah. Just completely deny the fact that Pakistan has piggybacked on the US pretty much throughout its history, pissed off the US for nuclear testing, and is now complaining about losing its support and being backstabbed.

Seriously. You guys asked for US interference, and you got it. Now learn to digest the bitter pills as well (you've already swallowed them).
 
Pinks elephants!

Sorry RR, Bangladesh is very close to my heart.

I wish it well.

It was my homeland once.

I cannot forget it!

I may not be a citizen of BD, but my heart is there!
 
Pinks elephants!

Sorry RR, Bangladesh is very close to my heart.

I wish it well.

It was my homeland once.

I cannot forget it!

I may not be a citizen of BD, but my heart is there!

not really relevant to what's being said, but alright. if the feeling is mutual, I'm sure they'll re-unite with you one day again, and you'll be able to move back to where your heart is.
 
They won't unite with India under any circumstances.

Nor there is any reason to do so.

They are a sovereign country and doing very well.

However, with people of your temperament, stand by for the fragmentation of Pakistan. You would not need the RAW!
 
They won't unite with India under any circumstances.

Nor there is any reason to do so.

They are a sovereign country and doing very well.

However, with people of your temperament, stand by for the fragmentation of Pakistan. You would not need the RAW!

It's happened before, and it's not a strong country, it would be possible to occupy it and root out any rebels for Bharat, much the same as it was possible for West Pakistan to occupy it with much inferior hardware than today. It'll just take a new Bharati government to forge a few terrorist acts, occupy Bangladesh and noone will say much when Bharat has a bit more influence. I'd expect it to happen sooner or later. But I wish them both well, the situation is behind us, there's no need for war museums to commemorate any fake genocide that has been disproven by every serious academic in the world, including Bangladeshi ones.
 
Dacca, City of the Dead

Within hours after launching a tank-led offensive in Dacca and other East Pakistani cities on the night of March 25, the Pakistan army imposed a virtual blackout on the brutal civil war in Bangla Desh (Bengal State) by expelling foreign newsmen. TIME correspondent Dan Coggin, who was among them, recently trekked back from India by Honda, truck, bus and bicycle to become the first American journalist to visit Dacca since the fighting started. His report:

Dacca was always a fairly dreary city, offering slim pleasures beyond the Hotel Intercontinental and a dozen Chinese restaurants that few of its 1,500,000 people could afford. Now. in many ways. it has become a city of the dead. A month after the army struck unleashing tank guns and automatic weapons against largely unarmed civilians in 34 hours of wanton slaughter, Dacca is still shocked and shuttered, its remaining inhabitants living in terror under the grip of army con trol. The exact toll will never be known. but probably more than 10,000 were killed in Dacca alone.

Perhaps half the city's population has fled to outlying villages. With the lifting of army blockades at road and river ferry exits, the exodus is resuming. Those who remain venture outdoors only for urgent food shopping. Rice prices have risen 50% since the army reportedly started burning grain silos in some areas. In any case, 14 of the city's 18 food bazaars were destroyed. The usually jammed streets are practically empty and no civil government is functioning.

"Kill the Bastards!" On every rooftop, Pakistan’s green-and-white flags hang limply in the steamy stillness. "We all know that Pakistan is finished,' said one Bengali. 'but we hope the flags will keep the soldiers away.'. As another form of insurance, portraits of Pakistan's late founder Mohammed Ali Jinnah, and even the current President Agha Mohammed Yahya Khan, were displayed prominently. But there was no mistaking the fact that the East Pakistanis viewed the army’s occupation of Dacca as a setback and not a surrender. "We will neither forgive nor forget," said one Bengali. On learning that I was a sangbadik (journalist), various townspeople led me to mass graves, to a stairwell where two professors were shot to death, and to scenes of other atrocities.

The most savage killing occurred in the Old City, where several sections were burned to the ground, poured gasoline around entire blocks, igniting them with flamethrowers, then mowed down people trying to escape the cordons of fire, "They're coming out!" a Westerner heard soldiers cry, "Kill the bastards!"

One Bengali businessman told of losing his son, daughter-in-Iaw and four grandchildren in the fire. Few apparently survived in the destroyed sections-25 square blocks-of the Old City. If they escaped the flames, they ran into gunfire. To frighten survivors, soldiers refused to allow the removal of decomposing bodies for three days, despite the Moslem belief in prompt burial, preferably within 24 hours, to free the soul.

The dead of Dacca included some of East Pakistan's most prominent educators and businessmen, as well as some 500 students. Among at least seven University of Dacca professors who were executed without apparent reason was the head of the philosophy department. Govinda Chandra Dev, 65, a gentle Hindu who believed in unity in diversity. Another victim was Jogesh Chandra Ghosh, 86, the invalid millionaire chemist. Ghosh, who did not believe in banks, was dragged from his bed and shot to death by soldiers who looted more than $1 million in rupees from his home.

Looting was also the motive for the slaying of Ranada Prasad Saha, 80, one of East Pakistan's leading jute exporters and one of its few philanthropists: he had built a modern hospital offering free medical care at Mirzapur, 40 miles north of Dacca. Dev, Ghosh and Saha were all Hindus.

"Where arc the maloun [cursed ones] rampaging soldiers often asked as they searched for Hindus. But the Hindus were by no means the only victims. Many soldiers arriving in East Pakistan were reportedly told the absurdity that it was all right to kill Bengali Moslems because they were Hindus in disguise. "We can kill anyone for anything," a Punjabi captain told a relative. "We are accountable to no one.”

Next Prime Minister. The tales of brutality are seemingly endless. A young man whose house was being searched begged the soldiers to do anything but to leave his 17-year-old sister alone; they spared him so he could watch them murder her with a bayonet. Colonel Abudl Hai, a Bengali physician attached to the East Regiment, was allowed to make a phone call to his family; an hour later his body was delivered to his home. An old man-who decided that Friday prayers were more important than the curfew was shot to death as he walked into a mosque.

About 1:30 on the morning of the attack, two armored personnel carriers arrived at the Dhanmandi home of Sheik Mujibur ("Mujib") Rahman, 51, the political leader behind the campaign for Bengali independence. Mujib first took refuge beneath a bed when the Special Security Group commandos began to spray his house with small-arms fire. Then, during a lull, he went to the downstairs veranda, raised his hands in surrender and shouted, "There is no need for shooting. Here I am. Take me."

Mujib was flown to West Pakistan, where he is reported held in Attock Fort near Peshawar. As an activist who had already spent nine years and eight months in jail, he may have reasoned at the time of his arrest that his political goals would be served by the martyrdom of further imprisonment. But he obviously did not expect to face a treason charge and possible execution. Only two months earlier, after all, President Yahya had referred to him as "the next Prime Minister of Pakistan."

No Choice. In Mujib's absence, the resistance movement is sorely lacking leadership, as well as arms, ammunition and communications gear. In late March, the mukti fauj (liberation forces) overwhelmed several company-size elements, as at Kushtia and Pabna, but bolt-action rifles cannot stop Sabre jets, artillery and army troops operating in battalion strength.

Still, everywhere I visited on the journey to Dacca, I found astonishing unanimity on the Bengali desire for independence and a determination to resist the Pakistan army with whatever means available. "We will not be slaves, said one resistance officer, "so there is no choice but to fight until we win." The oncoming monsoon rains and the Islamabad government's financial problems will also work in favor of Bangla Desh. As the months pass and such hardships increase, Islamabad may have to face the fact that unity by force of arms is not exactly the Pakistan that Jinnah had in mind.

TIME May 3, 1971; pp. 28
 
It'll just take a new Bharati government to forge a few terrorist acts, occupy Bangladesh and noone will say much when Bharat has a bit more influence.

Heh. Not every country is like Pakistan. Just because you guys do genocides, doesn't mean that the whole world will stoop to your standards.

But I wish them both well,

No you don't. Don't hide your evil wishes under platitudes.

the situation is behind us, there's no need for war museums to commemorate any fake genocide that has been disproven by every serious academic in the world, including Bangladeshi ones.

Sure, its been disproved by every academic in a serious state of denial.
 
Hmm, too much mind reading going on. Why wouldn't I wish Bangladesh well? The sooner they improve their economy, the sooner Pakistan gets rid of the illegals. I stand to win either way as I have an interest to hope Bangladesh does well regardless of whether I like the country or hate it. If I like the country, I'd obviously want it to do well, if I hate Bangladesh and Bangladeshis, I'd want to get rid of the illegals, and the only way to do that is to hope Bangladesh's economy improves so that they all do migrate back. If Bangladesh goes down, all that will happen is they'll be more dissatisfied with life, blame Pakistan more, and send more illegals over. So why on earth would I be interested in superficial platitudes when whatever my true feelings, it is in my interest to see Bangladesh do well? I didn't think you could think this far ahead. I hope it makes sense to you.

As for Bangladesh reuniting with Bharat, everyone really DOES know that Bharat secretly desires this, despite all the strong denials from the Bharatis on here. It is in Bharat's interest to reunite with Bangladesh to secure the North-east, and to eliminate one source of rebellion from close by. Bharat cannot take Bangladesh now, but it is obvious that somewhere within the next 50 years, Bangaldesh will either reunite peacefully with Bharat (unlikely but possible), or it will be forced to unite with Bharat as the political climate changes. Please don't issue your consistent denials that Bharat is not interested in this, it never wanted partition and believes all these lands are part of Bharatvarsha. I don't see it as a problem anyway, depending on how Bharat treats its new entry of course.
 
Hmm, too much mind reading going on. Why wouldn't I wish Bangladesh well? The sooner they improve their economy, the sooner Pakistan gets rid of the illegals

Your posts bely the contention that you wish Bangladesh well.

Your venom indicates your inner psyche.

It also indicates your deep anger that Bangladesh had the audacity to shake off the Punjabi shackle, that is so evident with the rumblings in all other provinces that one sees.

You are attempting to be a jackal in sheep's clothing with you new found pious platitudes!

The Bangladeshis here are no nuts posting article after article to counter your venom as also attempting to put some brains and logic in your reply! But they are failing!
 
^^Care to name just one instance of anything I've said in this thread that is venomous? Didn't think so. If anyone were attempting to be a "jackal in sheep's clothing" it would be you and a couple of others I would say.
 

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