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Corps Commanders' Conference held at GHQ Rawalpindi - DG ISPR

But the defensive mindset thinking is the same.

Yes you correct but remember that enough resources have NOT been spent to make Force into a Truly "Offensive" force. It needs a lot of capital injection to do this. Having said this, there is just no other excuse for the current state "defensive" thinking in Pakistan Military.
 
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Pakistan cannot afford to fight an offensive war and win.
Not economically, not militarily, not politically.
Better to keep your powder dry and maintain a deterrence rather than overestimate yourself and have your economy ground into the dust. It's teetering on the verge of bankruptcy as it is.
 
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Your first 4 lines make sense - others do not. These present Generals cannot be held responsible for 1948 or Kargil. We are in 2020 - different Era, different weapons of War and so forth.

I didn't make them responsible for 1948. I stated our history. If they are not responsible, their leadership in the past had been. In the end it gave Pakistan bad name and chances to India to boost. Don't we see Indian's claim that Pakistan has lost all wars against it!!!

Talking about the current scenario. Look at the debacle of OBL capture, so we are told.
I was banned on this forum in 2011 for asking some tough questions on the incident. It deemed by the management of this forum to be against PA, therefore, I was banned.
I am asking these questions ever since, didn't find one sane person to answer one of my very simple question.
How the seals from the destroyed helicopter boarded one remaining helicopter!!
They simply cannot, due to the limitation of maximum weight carrying of the helicopter. When people who claim they are so-called experts on "Defence Matters" cannot answer a simple basic question, they instead decide to ban you. It doesn't say much for the people or the platform.
Ever since, respect of many had gown down in my eyes.
As for my question, General Kiyani knows the answer very well. That's why I say Kiyani was the biggest traitor of Pakistan, why he had spared a hanging, I don't know.
That debacle and NRO to the corrupt politicians to loot and ruin Pakistan is enough crime for his conviction.

Pakistan cannot afford to fight an offensive war and win.
Not economically, not militarily, not politically.
Better to keep your powder dry and maintain a deterrence rather than overestimate yourself and have your economy ground into the dust. It's teetering on the verge of bankruptcy as it is.

Agreed.
But please tell us who gave NRO to the corrupt politicians to comeback and loot Pakistan again!!
 
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But please tell us who gave NRO to the corrupt politicians to comeback and loot Pakistan again!!
people of Pakistan....through their unconditional support in northern central Punjab with PML n and sindh with PPPP
 
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people of Pakistan....through their unconditional support in northern central Punjab with PML n and sindh with PPPP

really!!
You mean they hold meetings in Dubai, gave the thieves assurances that they can come to Pakistan, all the cases against them would be quashed!!
 
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I think this is casual conference and nothing more than that ,during gen bajwa tenure we should not expect some extraordinary stance by army.
 
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Agreed.
But please tell us who gave NRO to the corrupt politicians to comeback and loot Pakistan again!!

Unfortunately, the Corrupt Pakistan Establishment which includes the Military. The loot and destruction of Pakistan and its people has been at an astoundingly unprecedented Level. Nothing in the World can compare to this level of economic Loot and destruction.
 
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