Comparative strengths of Bangladesh and Myanmar

[TopCat]

India's open stance on refusing Rohingya to settle in India, Indian PMs acknowledgement with Mayanmars policy of targeting 'illegal Banglali' terrorists. Indias current Government will never want to become guardian of peace when it is itself trying to brutally surpress control over the Muslim majority state of Jammu & Kashmir. It can only agree upon Mayanmars policy and inheindsight will most likely refuse to support BD in any conflict with Matanmar. Likewise China has zero interest to indulge itself in another confrontation within its region especially with the situation it faces between US North Korea standoff, Japan and Phillipines becoming more assertive with China's islands grab campaign. China will therefore leave Mayanmar to fight with BD, if it came to it. OIC nations are indulged in their own various conflicts between the proxy wars of Saudi Arabia & Iran, they have very little interest in Bangladesh.

India just cant afford to go against BD, too much business interest, Modi or no Modi. We have too many people surrounding BD border will be supporting BD including Mamata didi. Modi has little say there. Assamese and bodos are not counted as any force.

China will try its level best to calm the situation down. Their biggest fear is USA siding with BD. As long as BD goes alone China wont mind and let BD settle north Rakhine.

At the end of the day, its Rohingya who are willing to die for their cause. They just need little help.

BD does not have any recent warfare experience. The only people dying are the innocent Rohingya and Mayanmar is openly getting away with it. BD isn't able to do anything and neither will if Mayanmar launches a campaign against BD.

Who else has? China? They last fought in Korean war right?

BD never had a naval warfare experience but see how we handled 2008 naval standoff with MM.

 

[Flynn Swagmire]

BD does not have any recent warfare experience. The only people dying are the innocent Rohingya and Mayanmar is openly getting away with it. BD isn't able to do anything and neither will if Mayanmar launches a campaign against BD.

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[Samurai_assassin]

India just cant afford to go against BD, too much business interest, Modi or no Modi. We have too many people surrounding BD border will be supporting BD including Mamata didi. Modi has little say there. Assamese and bodos are not counted as any force.

China will try its level best to calm the situation down. Their biggest fear is USA siding with BD. As long as BD goes alone China wont mind and let BD settle north Rakhine.

At the end of the day, its Rohingya who are willing to die for their cause. They just need little help.



Who else has? China? They last fought in Korean war right?

BD never had a naval warfare experience but see how we handled 2008 naval standoff with MM.

Sure by having an 'out spoken' Uncle Sam on your side is enough to silence the opposition? Clearly they have been very active in condemning Mayanmars massacer of the Rohingya? The US couldn't care less about your region it is stuck in the Middle East, Afghanistan, Korean Peninsula with an ever assertive growing Russian alliance. Trumps government probably doesnt even know where Bangladesh is.

 

[Reashot Xigwin]

India's open stance on refusing Rohingya to settle in India, Indian PMs acknowledgement with Mayanmars policy of targeting 'illegal Banglali' terrorists. Indias current Government will never want to become guardian of peace when it is itself trying to brutally surpress control over the Muslim majority state of Jammu & Kashmir. It can only agree upon Mayanmars policy and inheindsight will most likely refuse to support BD in any conflict with Matanmar. Likewise China has zero interest to indulge itself in another confrontation within its region especially with the situation it faces between US North Korea standoff, Japan and Phillipines becoming more assertive with China's islands grab campaign. China will therefore leave Mayanmar to fight with BD, if it came to it. OIC nations are indulged in their own various conflicts between the proxy wars of Saudi Arabia & Iran, they have very little interest in Bangladesh.


India's open stance on refusing Rohingya to settle in India, Indian PMs acknowledgement with Mayanmars policy of targeting 'illegal Banglali' terrorists. Indias current Government will never want to become guardian of peace when it is itself trying to brutally surpress control over the Muslim majority state of Jammu & Kashmir. It can only agree upon Mayanmars policy and inheindsight will most likely refuse to support BD in any conflict with Matanmar. Likewise China has zero interest to indulge itself in another confrontation within its region especially with the situation it faces between US North Korea standoff, Japan and Phillipines becoming more assertive with China's islands grab campaign. China will therefore leave Mayanmar to fight with BD, if it came to it. OIC nations are indulged in their own various conflicts between the proxy wars of Saudi Arabia & Iran, they have very little interest in Bangladesh.

Don't bring geo-politics into a thread about military comparisons. This is about military not politics. Even in those regards burma is in an even more disadvantages.

Fur examples if burma goes to war all the other ethnic groups the country have been in war with for more than 50 years will take the opportunity to take an entire regions for themselves & then burma will have to fight in every fronts.

 

[Samurai_assassin]

Don't bring geo-politics into a thread about military comparisons. This is about military not politics. Even in those regards burma is in an even more disadvantages.

Fur examples if burma goes to war all the other ethnic groups the country have been in war with for more than 50 years will take the opportunity to take an entire regions for themselves & then burma will have to fight in every fronts.
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Geo politics has a large part to play it is foolish to ignore the repercussions of regional states incase of any war.

 

[Reashot Xigwin]

Geo politics has a large part to play it is foolish to ignore the repercussions of regional states incase of any war.

Does sticking to the topic are a foreign concept to you?

Like I said before even if we include geo-politics then Burma doesn't stand a snowball chance in hell.

 

[Samurai_assassin]

Does sticking to the topic are a foreign concept to you?

Like I said before even if we include geo-politics then Burma doesn't stand a snowball chance in hell.

It's an important part of discussion, not just militery hardware but the wider repercussions involving larger powerful states such as India and China. Why are you getting very emotional and angry? Well all the best to Bangladesh i'm sure you'll need it in any future conflict.

 

[Reashot Xigwin]

It's an important part of discussion, not just militery hardware but the wider repercussions involving larger powerful states such as India and China. Why are you getting very emotional and angry? Well all the best to Bangladesh i'm sure you'll need it in any future conflict.

Its called sticking to the topic. Politics are not the same as military.

Angry at what. Aren't you just projecting? I'm an indonesian & even I know that bangladesh is the better country in regards to military. The Tatmadaw are far too corrupt & ineffective in combat. Till this day they have not yet able to quell their ethnic rebellions. The use of child soldiers & inferior hardware to name a few shortcomings.

 

[UKBengali]

Its called sticking to the topic. Politics are not the same as military.

Angry at what. Aren't you just projecting? I'm an indonesian & even I know that bangladesh is the better country in regards to military. The Tatmadaw are far too corrupt & ineffective in combat. Till this day they have not yet able to quell their ethnic rebellions. The use of child soldiers & inferior hardware to name a few shortcomings.

You are spot on.
BD can beat Myanmar now, even with an inferior air force, but will have to take some losses
to air attack by MAF. BD Army and Navy outclass Myanmar completely.
Once BAF has 1-2 more squadrons of modern fighters, it is game over for Myanmar.
Over the long run as BA, BN and BAF complete the current modernisation phase by 2030,
Myanmar won't even feature in the threat scenario for BD military planners.

 

[Samurai_assassin]

Its called sticking to the topic. Politics are not the same as military.

Angry at what. Aren't you just projecting? I'm an indonesian & even I know that bangladesh is the better country in regards to military. The Tatmadaw are far too corrupt & ineffective in combat. Till this day they have not yet able to quell their ethnic rebellions. The use of child soldiers & inferior hardware to name a few shortcomings.

The entire purpose of Comparing both nations militery hardware is due to the political and humenitarian crises of the Rohingya population. You cannot discredit politics over the topic! Otherwise you might as well compare Bangladesh military hardware to Singapors Army or any other nations.

 

[Reashot Xigwin]

The entire purpose of Comparing both nations militery hardware is due to the political and humenitarian crises of the Rohingya population. You cannot discredit politics over the topic! Otherwise you might as well compare Bangladesh military hardware to Singapors Army or any other nations.

The rohingya crisis & this are 2 different things. You need to learn how to separate the 2. Savvy. There's quite a lot thread discussing both country's geo-politics. This is one should be about pure military discussion.

The title of the topic is about burmese & bangladesh military. If you can't stick to it, then that just shows more about your character than it is about me.

 

[Samurai_assassin]

The rohingya crisis & this are 2 different things. You need to learn how to separate the 2. Savvy. There's quite a lot thread discussing both country's geo-politics. This is one should be about pure military discussion.

The title of the topic is about burmese & bangladesh military. If you can't stick to it, then that just shows more about your character than it is about me.

Let's use your logic and compare Bangladesh army to Indonesia. What would be the purpose? Are both nations hostile to eachother? Land dispute? Border issues? Maybe rival sporting ties perhaps? When you compare both militaries then you have to anticipate other related questions and topics becoming apart of the discussion, in this case it's clearly the Rohingya crisis. Thousands of them have fled Mayanmar and entered Bangladesh which is putting strain on BD. Otherwise why even compare militery strengths? Who says politics and military do not mix? This isn't Europe, in this part of the world military and politics are closely linked and merged.

 

[Reashot Xigwin]

Let's use your logic and compare Bangladesh army to Indonesia. What would be the purpose? Are both nations hostile to eachother? Land dispute? Border issues? Maybe rival sporting ties perhaps? When you compare both militaries then you have to anticipate other related questions and topics becoming apart of the discussion, in this case it's clearly the Rohingya crisis. Thousands of them have fled Mayanmar and entered Bangladesh which is putting strain on BD. Otherwise why even compare militery strengths?

For luls... Clearly you never watch a single youtube video on your life. Go ahead check a video about vietnam vs indonesia.

Anyway comparing military capability is nothing new there's myriad of reasons why. Either for fun or for strategic purposes. Not everything have to have a nefarious purposes.

 

[Samurai_assassin]

For luls... Clearly you never watch a single youtube video on your life. Go ahead check a video about vietnam vs indonesia.

Anyway comparing military capability is nothing new there's myriad of reasons why. Either for fun or for strategic purposes. Not everything have to have a nefarious purposes.

Well I'm sure if Bangladesh has an Indonesian friend such as yourself (as you claim to be) then Mrs Hassina can sleep well at night. Unfortunatly I don't feel the need to post YouTube videos about my life, I'm not eager for the world to know my day to day trials and tribulations. But if you feel the need to express yourself please feel free.

 

[ArcaniusXI]

Comparison between F-7BGI and JF-17blk2
1)Speed
F-7BGI- Mach2.2
JF-17blk2- Mach1.6


2)Service ceiling
F-7BGI-17,500m
JF-17blk2-16,916m

3)G-limit
F-7BGI- +8g/-3g
JF17blk2- +8g/-3g

4)Thrust with afterburner
F-7BGI-82kN
JF17blk2-85.3kN

5)Weapons payload
F-7BGI - 3000kg
JF17blk2-4325kg

6)Weapons(Missiles that can be carried)
F-7BGI- PL-12(medium range), PL-11(40-75km) ,PL-2(6-10km),PL-5 PL-7,PL-8,PL-9,Magic R. 550 and AIM-9
*7 Hard-points to carry air-to-air missiles, laser-guided bomb, GPS-guided bombs, drop tanks

JF-17blk2-PL-5EII(short range) ,
SD-10A(long range), CM-120(Anti-radiation missile)
F-7BGI can carry C-704 anti-ship missile and JF-17blk2 can carry C-802AK and CM-400AKG anti-ship missile.
*7 in total (4 × under-wing, 2 × wing-tip, 1 × under-fuselage) with a capacity of 9,535 lb (4,325 kg) for external fuel and ordnance



7)Avionics
F-7BGI has KLJ-6F radar Fire control Radar with 86 km+ Range which is near BVR.It can track 6 and engage 2 enemy aircraft simultaneously.

JF-17blk2-The KLJ-7V1 has multiple modes, both beyond visual range (BVR) and close-in air-to-air modes, ground surveillance modes and a robust anti-jamming capability.
The radar can reportedly manage up to 40 targets, monitor up to 10 of them in track-while-scan(TWS) mode and simultaneously fire on two BVR targets.

8)Price
F-7BGI-$6-9million
JF-17blk2(amount paid by Burmese government)-$16million

Conclusion:
F-7BGI is there to perform the role of interceptor.
Jf-17 is purchased to perform as a multirole aircraft.
But it is nice to see an aircraft half/third price of JF-17blk2 giving those JF-17 a run for their money.


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They're now comparing F7 to JF-17 @Windjammer @Bilal Khan (Quwa) @Manticore @Horus