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Commissioning Ceremony of Survey Vessel BEHR MASAH built for Pakistan Navy at China

or Surface Fleet , I will say :
  1. 8 Jinnah Class Coverts
  2. 8 Type-54 Frigates
  3. 4 TF-2000 Frigates
  4. 3 Type 52-D/E Destroyer
But date is not 2025 , It is 2030 and onwards or best to say 2035 .

Enemy is not that merciful to let our defence strong..
 
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The Navy seems to be the only branch of the armed forces keeping discussions on PDF alive at the moment :sarcastic:

Just wish they induct a squadron of dedicated naval attack / air defence fighters - something twin engine, long range and long endurance :wub:

I’m baffled that the Navy hasn’t strongly pushed for beefing up its Air Arm. PAF is to blame as well as they keep right control on the air assets but it’s very stupid of governments in past rejecting Navy requests considering we are making JF-17s at home.

Considering the amount we are investing in Gwadar and coastal area for future commerce.
 
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Enemy is not that merciful to let our defence strong..
I have no idea about enemy , main question is "Are we ready ?" ……. Just look at our convectional fighting abilities ,,,, To counter indain hot and cold we made A-bombs ,,,,, better option to counter them is upgrade Lahore and Gujranwala Corps (all divs minimum Fully mechanised with IFVs , AFVs , Tanks etc)..
Yes Money matters , but Will , Strategy and Planning matters the most ……. Just look at AL-Khalid program started in 90s (25+ years) ………
 
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I’m baffled that the Navy hasn’t strongly pushed for beefing up its Air Arm. PAF is to blame as well as they keep right control on the air assets but it’s very stupid of governments in past rejecting Navy requests considering we are making JF-17s at home.

Considering the amount we are investing in Gwadar and coastal area for future commerce.
IMO I don't think the PN is actually asking for its own fighter wing. While it's modernizing the surface fleet, the PN's real threat capability will be its relatively large submarine fleet. Once the Hangors are in, it'll have 11 AIP subs, not a joke by any stretch. However, it's apparently looking to augment the fleet further with a mini-SSK, which may be a proper AShW/ASW asset in its own right, and make our littoral waters basically inaccessible.

So, the naval-to-naval scenario will ultimately center on the submarines (with the surface vessels and MPA/LRMPAs offering some anti-sub and anti-air capability in support).
 
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IMO I don't think the PN is actually asking for its own fighter wing. While it's modernizing the surface fleet, the PN's real threat capability will be its relatively large submarine fleet. Once the Hangors are in, it'll have 11 AIP subs, not a joke by any stretch. However, it's apparently looking to augment the fleet further with a mini-SSK, which may be a proper AShW/ASW asset in its own right, and make our littoral waters basically inaccessible.

So, the naval-to-naval scenario will ultimately center on the submarines (with the surface vessels and MPA/LRMPAs offering some anti-sub and anti-air capability in support).

Where can I read more about the Hangor's and how capable will it be compared to Indian Sub? Also, we have any plans for SLBM capable Sub?
 
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Where can I read more about the Hangor's and how capable will it be compared to Indian Sub? Also, we have any plans for SLBM capable Sub?

You can search for S20/S26T or PLAN Yuan (Type 093A) Class, as for Hangor, you will not find much nor should much be available online. aka Silent Service
 
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IMO I don't think the PN is actually asking for its own fighter wing. While it's modernizing the surface fleet, the PN's real threat capability will be its relatively large submarine fleet. Once the Hangors are in, it'll have 11 AIP subs, not a joke by any stretch. However, it's apparently looking to augment the fleet further with a mini-SSK, which may be a proper AShW/ASW asset in its own right, and make our littoral waters basically inaccessible.

So, the naval-to-naval scenario will ultimately center on the submarines (with the surface vessels and MPA/LRMPAs offering some anti-sub and anti-air capability in support).

I agree with you the strike/offensive capability will center around the 11 subs. I posted this back in 2010, I guess, that PN needs atleast 12 AIP boats to really be a potent threat in the region and atleast 15 LRMP platforms to counter IN Sub threat.
 
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