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Commissioning Ceremony of Survey Vessel BEHR MASAH built for Pakistan Navy at China

It is not a replacement, but an addition.
Maybe. I think it’s a replacement, unless they want to overhaul the older one too. It’s gotten some upgrades before but almost all the hydrography equipment is still original and hence very old. But if the navy still has use for it, why not. More is good.
https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/comm...asah-built-for-pakistan-navy-at-china.641852/
those would be here, this thread already exists, merge them.
 
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Waste of money.A navy for surveying for fish and hunting Somali pirates. Bravo !

The ship is used for enemy submarine detection .. Dont rant without any evidence..

its good to see i have visited old one BEHR PAIMA and it was really need to be retired .

Could you share your experience while visiting BEHR PAIMA
 
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The ship is used for enemy submarine detection .. Dont rant without any evidence..



Could you share your experience while visiting BEHR PAIMA
i opened full threads upon my visits on agosta-90b - f-22p - type-21 - and pns baher paima sir . its need to search i have uploaded tons of images back then too .
 
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i opened full threads upon my visits on agosta-90b - f-22p - type-21 - and pns baher paima sir . its need to search i have uploaded tons of images back then too .
I would be very thankful if you could link me the thread.
Thanks in advance
 
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The ship is used for enemy submarine detection .. Dont rant without any evidence..
You give me a evidence that survey ships are used for submarine detection? I though helicopters with anti-sub suites are best for killing subs.

he have skills to be appointed as indian naval chief .
You tell me what skill you have that entitle you to fart on this subject on a defence foru more then me? Are you some closet admiral?

FACT: PN has never effected the course of any war we have had with India. Zero. Same cannot be said for PA and PAF.
 
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You give me a evidence that survey ships are used for submarine detection? I though helicopters with anti-sub suites are best for killing subs.

You tell me what skill you have that entitle you to fart on this subject on a defence foru more then me? Are you some closet admiral?

FACT: PN has never effected the course of any war we have had with India. Zero. Same cannot be said for PA and PAF.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Echo-class_survey_ship_(2002)

similar class of ships serving in the Royal Navy. Check what the page reads. If you don’t trust Wikipedia as a source, check the third part sources at the bottom of the Wikipedia page for conformation, this should answer your query about how these are useful for submarines and anti submarine ops.
Furthermore, while it is true that anti submarine helicopters, ships and planes like the Orion and Poseidon are better suited for anti submarine ops, does that mean we don’t have all assists available? That’s like saying a helicopter is the best for taking out a tank so let’s not manufacture any tanks or ATGMs at all. Everything serves its own purpose in a war. And frankly I trust a General with 35 years of experience more than a visitor on a Defence forum with my countries security choices.

To answer your second query about PN not doing anything in previous wars. 47 and 65 didn’t have any major naval warfare to begin with. So how could the navy have done anything?
71’ was an overall failure for all three branches, so why single out the navy?
99’ didn’t have any naval conflict.
And keep in mind that all this time, the navy barely had any budget while the other two forces had state of the art equipment and much higher budgets.
For the first time PN is actually important to us. Because of CPEC and the growing need for naval power. And that’s why it’s being given attention, now answer my question, how is any of this related to the commissioning of this certain ship?
At this stage even the Indians wouldn’t hire you. Please, have some basic knowledge about a topic before commenting on it, thanks.
 
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PN should induct atleast 15 frigates, 8 corvettes and 4 destroyer by 2025.
For Surface Fleet , I will say :
  1. 8 Jinnah Class Coverts
  2. 8 Type-54 Frigates
  3. 4 TF-2000 Frigates
  4. 3 Type 52-D/E Destroyer
But date is not 2025 , It is 2030 and onwards or best to say 2035 .

FACT: PN has never effected the course of any war we have had with India. Zero. Same cannot be said for PA and PAF.
And we have to change this , PN needs proper Ships , Subs etc , PN needs funds , Give them the money and they will give you the results you want(wish).
 
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It can provide the informations that submarines need.

It also help finds hidden subs as it gives picture of sea bed and if a sub hides there, ASW assets can compare that data with their sensor data.
 
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