CM KPK Orders Peshawar BRT to be finished by Dec 2017. Work to Start Next Year

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Where every child is going to school and hence the most expensive metro in the history of South Asia needed to be enacted
Where every disease is curable in hospitals that PM/CM wont visit any hospital even for something as simple as a routine test....
Where international bodies point to PM and his corruption issues but slaves for the party bow and say its a lie?

we should appreciate development any way. PTI should not have criticized other projects that much, when they know at the end these projects will help common people and they will do the same projects in KPK. Transportation is basic need for people. i always appreciated these projects.

Rich have cars what poor people has is these metros.

Criticism was on the cost of the projects not the actual projects ...If in india can save money why hasnt tajurbah group of 30 yrs tajurbah been able to save a penny but instead ALWAYS overspend? They start with budget A and in between suddenly increase it by 50% and by the time ANY project has ended it has always been many folds too expensive as compared to any country that could do it cheaper! Why cant Pakistan? We have lower labour costs and even cheaper resources ....Yet we have most expensive constructions in the pas few years! Either from neglectance, refusal to survey the market for better price or it all comes to stupidity and lack of any experience....
http://indianexpress.com/article/ci...h-money-saved-from-flyover-projects-kejriwal/
IF Noon brothers can make their business prosper why is it when it comes to National projects its always the MOST expensive ever?

As for building roads- In Multan ALONE they (Punjab govt of noon) broke down the roads less than 5 yrs ago....built it and then stated they forgot cables were not laid , broke it and rebuilt it only to forget to add pipes...What form of tajurbah is that?And they started building all 4 lanes instead of building 2 and opening those while building the other 2? Who does that? And then for metro they broke the same road they finally finished not 3 yrs ago....Was that necessary? or lack of planing and what kind of tajurbah is that? And sad thing is no one finds anything fishy in it!

 

[Muhammad Omar]

Where every child is going to school and hence the most expensive metro in the history of South Asia needed to be enacted
Where every disease is curable in hospitals that PM/CM wont visit any hospital even for something as simple as a routine test....
Where international bodies point to PM and his corruption issues but slaves for the party bow and say its a lie?

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Ok like i said Punjab is corrupt blah blah blah

Tell us about the Heaven on Earth and Angels in Provincial assembly AKA KPK
Did all the childern of KPK are going to School
Did KPK has Best Hospitals in the World?

Expensive Metro yeah it's Expensive Cause the Tracks are elevated and can be converted into Metro Trains as per future needs (Vision of Future needs) as the Population is growing so the need to better transport System..

again Hospital Imran Said about 90 days (3 Months) tadeeli And after 3 years as per PTI supporters all they did is did reforms increased the pays of Doc but the conditions of Hospitals are same ..... You get 5 years to Perform after 5 years people will judge your performance not you did reforms

from all over KPK people are coming to Punjab and Islamabad (PIMS hospital) for the treatment of the Patients last month i visited Jinnah Hospital in Lahore and people there came from Swat and D.I. Khan for their treatment

International bodies point PM children not him

Even Jahangir Tareen Son has Offshore Companies Aleem Khan has Offshore Companies but oh yeah we forgot they are Angels on Earth their Money is HALAL cause they are saying it's HALAL

International bodies even pointed PPP and Name of Tahir ul Qadri Siraj Ul Haq is also coming in news cause PANAMA gonna release more papers and gonna point out various people of Pakistan that has Off shore companies estimated figure 400 People

 

[Dubious]

Tell us about the Heaven on Earth and Angels in Provincial assembly AKA KPK
Did all the childern of KPK are going to School
Did KPK has Best Hospitals in the World?

No but they didnt have already built roads that need to be broken down and rebuilt and then broken down and rebuilt and then again just to pay more to the construction of the same road....

So if by metro they will fix some roads they have built some decades ago it is better than breaking roads which were last built less than 3 yrs ago - eg. is Multan

Expensive Metro yeah it's Expensive Cause the Tracks are elevated and can be converted into Metro Trains as per future needs (Vision of Future needs) as the Population is growing so the need to better transport System..

With the amount they used, people on other parts of the world got BOTH the train and the bus! So konsa teer mara?

again Hospital Imran Said about 90 days (3 Months) tadeeli And after 3 years as per PTI supporters all they did is did reforms increased the pays of Doc but the conditions of Hospitals are same ..... You get 5 years to Perform after 5 years people will judge your performance not you did reforms

Yes, Pukhtoons did judge and threw out the bastards before PTI...they will do it again everyone knows....even PTI
Everyone also knows Punjabis are soo lenient when finding out the govt is corrupt they vote for it again

from all over KPK people are coming to Punjab and Islamabad (PIMS hospital) for the treatment of the Patients last month i visited Jinnah Hospital in Lahore and people there came from Swat and D.I. Khan for their treatment

That is their choice....Are you going to question everyone who moves internally but not point your gun on the ruling party who wont even go to the most expensive hospitals in ISB and Lahore for their normal checkups?

International bodies point PM children not him

And they pointed that in 1993 when the children were studying on daddy's money...so basically him! Unless of course they made industries by working in pizza hut or something?

Even Jahangir Tareen Son has Offshore Companies Aleem Khan has Offshore Companies but oh yeah we forgot they are Angels on Earth their Money is HALAL cause they are saying it's HALAL

No one called them halal...Show me even 1 PTI supporter who did! We ask the same as we ask from your haram leader

International bodies even pointed PPP and Name of Tahir ul Qadri Siraj Ul Haq is also coming in news cause PANAMA gonna release more papers and gonna point out various people of Pakistan that has Off shore companies estimated figure 400 People

Yes, they should be trialed and it is shocking NS hasnt even addressed that all he cares about is his own arse!

Considering how many poor and how many dont pay a penny of tax and how many pay less than what they should 400 is a high number! No wonder no one wants to pay tax or take this case seriously, they themselves are on the line and this is just 1 company from around the world with such accounts! Imagine if all surfaced!

We still havent got justice from Zardari and now we have another follower of him (Sharifs) to deal with!

 

[Lone Ranger]

Where every child is going to school and hence the most expensive metro in the history of South Asia needed to be enacted
Where every disease is curable in hospitals that PM/CM wont visit any hospital even for something as simple as a routine test....
Where international bodies point to PM and his corruption issues but slaves for the party bow and say its a lie?


Criticism was on the cost of the projects not the actual projects ...If in india can save money why hasnt tajurbah group of 30 yrs tajurbah been able to save a penny but instead ALWAYS overspend? They start with budget A and in between suddenly increase it by 50% and by the time ANY project has ended it has always been many folds too expensive as compared to any country that could do it cheaper! Why cant Pakistan? We have lower labour costs and even cheaper resources ....Yet we have most expensive constructions in the pas few years! Either from neglectance, refusal to survey the market for better price or it all comes to stupidity and lack of any experience....
http://indianexpress.com/article/ci...h-money-saved-from-flyover-projects-kejriwal/
IF Noon brothers can make their business prosper why is it when it comes to National projects its always the MOST expensive ever?

As for building roads- In Multan ALONE they (Punjab govt of noon) broke down the roads less than 5 yrs ago....built it and then stated they forgot cables were not laid , broke it and rebuilt it only to forget to add pipes...What form of tajurbah is that?And they started building all 4 lanes instead of building 2 and opening those while building the other 2? Who does that? And then for metro they broke the same road they finally finished not 3 yrs ago....Was that necessary? or lack of planing and what kind of tajurbah is that? And sad thing is no one finds anything fishy in it!

 

[Muhammad Omar]

No but they didnt have already built roads that need to be broken down and rebuilt and then broken down and rebuilt and then again just to pay more to the construction of the same road....

So if by metro they will fix some roads they have built some decades ago it is better than breaking roads which were last built less than 3 yrs ago - eg. is Multan


With the amount they used, people on other parts of the world got BOTH the train and the bus! So konsa teer mara?


Yes, Pukhtoons did judge and threw out the bastards before PTI...they will do it again everyone knows....even PTI
Everyone also knows Punjabis are soo lenient when finding out the govt is corrupt they vote for it again


That is their choice....Are you going to question everyone who moves internally but not point your gun on the ruling party who wont even go to the most expensive hospitals in ISB and Lahore for their normal checkups?


And they pointed that in 1993 when the children were studying on daddy's money...so basically him! Unless of course they made industries by working in pizza hut or something?


No one called them halal...Show me even 1 PTI supporter who did! We ask the same as we ask from your haram leader


Yes, they should be trialed and it is shocking NS hasnt even addressed that all he cares about is his own arse!

Considering how many poor and how many dont pay a penny of tax and how many pay less than what they should 400 is a high number! No wonder no one wants to pay tax or take this case seriously, they themselves are on the line and this is just 1 company from around the world with such accounts! Imagine if all surfaced!

We still havent got justice from Zardari and now we have another follower of him (Sharifs) to deal with!

a Cost comparison of metro cost i don't who told you that people get both bus and train in the same cost of project Hahahha Teer yeh Mara k 100000 People in Pindi are using better transportation system and more then 140000 people in Lahore

We will see in 2018 what Pakhtoons will judge about PTI then we will talk about that ... Punjabi do see the Development in Punjab that's why they vote for the same Party And After CPEC and various power Projects under construction don't be supersized if they win again


yupe in 1993 Jahangir was a mare had nothing after that he got everything and have 70 Billion worth investment today WOW

m not talking about PTI supportes but your OFFSHORE Company holder leaders which says our money is halal

Even NS said i should be trialed and presented himself before Supreme Court of Pakistan the Same Supreme Court judge Imran said we want commission to work under him but rather then discussing TOR of commission with Gov PTI is doing Politics and Dharnabazi

 

[Dubious]

a Cost comparison of metro cost i don't who told you that people get both bus and train in the same cost of project Hahahha Teer yeh Mara k 100000 People in Pindi are using better transportation system and more then 140000 people in Lahore

I have no problem with people travelling with ease....but the problem arises when there is no future plan to pay back and how to run a cheap system without facing a downfall in the future...with unpar jahil in parliament that is no easy task and worrisome!

We will see in 2018 what Pakhtoons will judge about PTI then we will talk about that ...

Yes it is their right....1 of the things I admire about them...They dont let you stick around to slap them the 2nd time! Now that is called lesson learnt! Unlike other parts of Pakistan who if once get slapped, offer the other cheek for a repeat!

Punjabi do see the Development in Punjab that's why they vote for the same Party And After CPEC and various power Projects under construction don't be supersized if they win again

I will be! Coz CPEC has very little to do with who was sitting in the development sector and more to do with China's interest and let me remind you it is still China who is making sure all goes strictly as planned, and on time....Even after being annoyed by india's petty cries they still held on! Had China been ruled by Shariffs I dont think I can say the same for hanging on!

m not talking about PTI supportes but your OFFSHORE Company holder leaders which says our money is halal

Well, the chairman of Noon is a bigger culprit since 80s! No one has been able to answer that one he even waived off the charges against him in 1997!

Even NS said i should be trialed and presented himself before Supreme Court of Pakistan the Same Supreme Court judge Imran said we want commission to work under him but rather then discussing TOR of commission with Gov PTI is doing Politics and Dharnabazi

It is interesting how you find PTI dramabazi but failed to see NS's drama where he throws himself to SC - same court which said haan haan there are fake votes, addition ballots were found, some boxes missing but this is the fairest election! I dont care what IK says...its obvious to anyone with a brain where SC stands! with its own judges on panama list it is no surprise NS threw himself there!

And 2nd part of the drama how is SC going to take a case where no evidence is in their hands? Has it even called Germany to get a copy of the accounts? Does the SC also have judges with degrees in forensics finance because say they do get copies of the accounts can the judges go through it and spot the problems? So yet another drama exposed!

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ohh look they put up noon on the poster as a demonstration

Can you explain this:
THERE have been fascinating statistics and facts disclosed in the media about the metro bus projects in Lahore and Islamabad. The Lahore metro bus has a 27km route with 8km elevated construction completed at a cost of Rs29.8bn. Only about 50km away in Amritsar, India, a similar project of 31km with 12km of elevated construction started during the same period. It was completed at a cost of Rs9.2bn (cost has been calculated according to Pakistani currency).

The price of cement, steel and labour is a little higher in India. There are more than a dozen other such metro projects built in various cities of India, completed at costs three to four times lower than the Lahore project.
http://www.dawn.com/news/1221374

Why do we have to pay Rs 20 billion extra...do ask NS did he siphon that to his foreign accounts?

And before we give all hail to poster man:

After 20 years of discussion, the ambitious and expensive Lahore Metro, which had first been proposed in 1991 was abandoned in favour of a bus transit system, inspired by the successful Istanbul Metrobus system. Plans were developed in the last quarter of 2011 by both local and Turkish experts.

So it isnt a brainchild of this century but in fact an old project reopened from 2decades ago...instead of having something improved or a better alternative, braindead people just opened an old project?

 

[Lone Ranger]

ohh look they put up noon on the poster as a demonstration

Yes its Imran khan

 

[Dubious]

The recently-launched Rawalpindi-Islamabad Metro Bus Service has been hailed as a ‘development gift’ by the leadership of PML-N for the people of the twin cities.
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The current ticket is flat Rs20, irrespective of the number of stops in a journey. If the government wishes to only recover the capital costs invested in the new service – Rs45 billion – it will take approximately 28 years at the going rate. However, there is no plan in place for it.

For each ticket, the federal and provincial government will pay Rs50 as subsidy which amounts to Rs2 billion every year. This also means that PMBP will be subsidised by non-users.

An important parameter of price is opportunity cost principle. Before PMBP was inaugurated, a passenger travelling from Pindi, Saddar to Islamabad, Secretariat would pay around Rs50 one way for an unsafe, uncomfortable and disjointed public transport.

The replacement with a reliable, respectable and faster bus service should have been accompanied with a slightly higher price. However, as politicians loath basic economics, they fixed a much lower price of Rs20, thus creating excess demand.

According to official numbers, the average operating cost for a bus trip comes out to be around Rs9,100. The average revenue for the same trip earned by the Authority is Rs2,600, recording a loss of Rs6,500 on every trip.


http://tribune.com.pk/story/911493/economically-unviable-metro-bus-a-white-elephant-painted-red/

Can someone ask for some billion Rs from NS from his wallet and tell him we will get him a gift with that money

Yes its Imran khan

He is now president of noon party?

Awesome!

 

[xyxmt]

And Punjab mein tou koi bhooka hai hi nai jo bus services kay baad train bhi chatay hain....if Punjabis can cheer for their metro so can Pushtoon akhir they are also Pakistanis and deserve equality!

Besides, after wasting more money than any other country on the planet and being satisfied with the most expensive metro - which ruling party only used once with his whole crew and camera crew to air it....ruling party wants a train....

Why build the most expensive show sha things when you dont use them?
Why not just make durable things?

by the way my statement was a tunz on PTIers, this is the line you have used in the past regarding PMLN projects.

 

[Dubious]

by the way my statement was a tunz on PTIers, this is the line you have used in the past regarding PMLN projects.

It would be justified if noon projects didnt live up to the tunz

Most PTI supporters dont hate the projects but hate the lack of transparency as well as lack/ delay of auditing! It is everyone's democratic right to question it!

 

[xyxmt]

It would be justified if noon projects didnt live up to the tunz

Most PTI supporters dont hate the projects but hate the lack of transparency as well as lack/ delay of auditing! It is everyone's democratic right to question it!

well Lahore metro from conception to finish took less than a year, I heard about the plan of Peshawar metro a year ago, now he wants it finished within 20 months, lets see how democracy works in KPK...i will remind you this in december 2017

 

[Dubious]

well Lahore metro from conception to finish took less than a year, I heard about the plan of Peshawar metro a year ago, now he wants it finished within 20 months, lets see how democracy works in KPK...i will remind you this in december 2017

Are you by any chance comparing
Lahore
A city under the noons for over 3 decades, with everything documented or atleast known coz its the same govt
with proper roads and other infrastructure to make life easy

with

Peshawar:
a city that has been neglected in all its infrastructure
Is more mountainous than Lahore

Man you really hate Noons, dont you? I mean you gotta hate noons to think so little of them to compare their 3 decades plus tajurbah to a new party!

 

[xyxmt]

Are you by any chance comparing
Lahore
A city under the noons for over 3 decades, with everything documented or atleast known coz its the same govt
with proper roads and other infrastructure to make life easy

with

Peshawar:
a city that has been neglected in all its infrastructure
Is more mountainous than Lahore

Man you really hate Noons, dont you? I mean you gotta hate noons to think so little of them to compare their 3 decades plus tajurbah to a new party!

hye re tere bahaney

 

[Dubious]

hye re tere bahaney

Anything wrong with the facts? Do point out

 

[xyxmt]

Anything wrong with the facts? Do point out

no nothing wrong but you forgot to mention so many other facts, like Pakistan was created in 1947, punjab is the biggest province and people speak punjabi there and that afghanistan is one of our neighboring country...and more that has nothing to do with completing a bus system.