Close to the US base in Hasakah .. Turkey bombed the headquarters of "PYd air and artillery

[T-123456]

Wheeling/Dealing is unlikely to be considered a good thing in a coalition member.

Yes a good point,where was this ''coalition'' when a coalition member asked this so called coalition to give some air-support during Operation Euphrates Shield?

 

[Oublious]

As far as I know, Erdogan canceled negotiations when HDP got representation
in the Turkish parlament, and HDP voted against Erdogans dictatorlike powers.
Then Erdogan restarted the fight with the Kurds, and after some blood was let,
Erdogan called for new elections, where HDP lost after anti Kurdish propaganda,
identifying PKK as the reason for terror attacks after about 30 seconds of investigation.
Meanwhile, immunity of parlament members were revoked so HDP members could be put in jail.

Wheeling/Dealing is unlikely to be considered a good thing in a coalition member.

What a lie, the peace process ended because pkk didn't put the weapons and killed soldiers and police officers. And the hell started for pkk wher you are so fan off. HDP lost because off they have killed and make life hell of kurds. You people are really funny...

 

[Melkor]

As far as I know, Erdogan canceled negotiations when HDP got representation
in the Turkish parlament, and HDP voted against Erdogans dictatorlike powers.
Then Erdogan restarted the fight with the Kurds, and after some blood was let,
Erdogan called for new elections, where HDP lost after anti Kurdish propaganda,
identifying PKK as the reason for terror attacks after about 30 seconds of investigation.
Meanwhile, immunity of parlament members were revoked so HDP members could be put in jail.

Wheeling/Dealing is unlikely to be considered a good thing in a coalition member.

Your love for the Kurd-terrorists is nothing short of a disgrace. Your are a true European. May Turkey ruin all your plans for the ME!

 

[T-123456]

And this operation was coordinated with the coalition?

Yes it was,with the US.
There was a deal made with the US that the YPG would leave the west side of the river as far as Manbij but the YPG didnt leave which meant that the US didnt keep its word,that was one of the stabs in the back.
When you are talking about a subject,it is better to know what you are talking about and not just throw in some comments and expect people to believe them.

 

[xenon54 out]

Good Job pissing of Russia AND the US at the same time.

Screw them booth when they sleep with pkk.

 

[Zhukov]

Plan is clear, eleminate PYD/YPG, instead Turkish and coalitions booths step on the ground. Turkey's army is ready and said it several times but other coalition elements are freaking cowards istead they try to use Kurdish puppets. And we are against an operation where PYD/YPG is included. Crystal clear for everyone.

Turkey's thesis ;
You can't finish a terrorist organization with another terrorist group.
Turkey is against an operation with PYD/YPG.
Turkey will bomb every terrorist organization which threats its national security.
Turkey is ready with its army for a DAESH operation.
PERIOD.



I think results are well calculated of the airstrike and again I think our guys didn't even care what they will think.

But A Full scale war on foreign soil against a whole country? What do you mean turkish forces will invade iraq and syria and eliminate both kurdish forces and isis? Kurds have a huge force in iraq and syria.
And how will Damascus and Baghdad react to it?
Best wishes for turkish Allies but u dont think this is the brightest of idea to Turn all Parties in Iraq and Syria against turkey and unite them.

 

[Talwar e Pakistan]

What are turkish plans to counter ISIS by Bombing both Kurds and Syrian Arab Army?
What if Iraq Syrian Arab Army and kurds decide to join hands they have a common enemy in the name of IS.
Can Turkey afford this union?

Or bro do you really believe FSA can take over Syrian Arab Army and Kurds and after that it will defeat ISIS?

I think it is wise for turkey to let the Kurdish Iraqi and Syrian alliance take out ISIS and Alqaeda first.
There is no other solution.

If TTP was to start combatting ISIS in Afghanistan would you stop fighting them? Even if they continue carrying out attacks against Pakistani security forces?

 

[The Eagle]

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Thanks.

 

[T-123456]

Yet you ask me to comment, LOL...

I didnt ask you to comment,i made a statement.

By coordinating the operation, I mean was the operation planned together with the US,
with promises of air strikes.

You think we could have done the operation without getting permission from the US first,especially Erdogan?

What I recall, is that the Kurds were expanding west, and Turkey intervened
to block the formation of a contiguous zone.

The YPG/PKK is one of the reasons,the other being the removal of ISIS from our border,as you know,we entered ISIS ''territory''.
You need to get one thing straight,its not the Kurds we are fighting,its the YPG/PKK,although people like you wont believe this but many Kurds in my country dont care for PKK/YPG.
The Kurds are many faction who dont get along with each other,another point for you to consider.

Don't think the US was involved in planning a clash between Turks and Kurds.

Yeah,the US is an angel,only wants to do good in the ME,how could i ever have doubted that.

US eventually agreed how to handle Manjib with the Russians to allow concentration against ISIS.

That is BS,the YPG/PKK threatened to stop any more fights against ISIS if Manbij was handed over to Turkiye,the same was stated to Russia and thats the only reason why the US and Russia backstabbed my country,as usual.
Now the YPG/PKK is commited to fight until ISIS is gone,a good deal for the US,Russia,Assad,Iran,Shia Iraq and in the end for YPG/PKK,they will gain independence.
And again i say,you dont know what you are talking about,just speculations from your side.

 

[A.P. Richelieu]

I didnt ask you to comment,i made a statement.

You think we could have done the operation without getting permission from the US first,especially Erdogan?

The YPG/PKK is one of the reasons,the other being the removal of ISIS from our border,as you know,we entered ISIS ''territory''.
You need to get one thing straight,its not the Kurds we are fighting,its the YPG/PKK,although people like you wont believe this but many Kurds in my country dont care for PKK/YPG.
The Kurds are many faction who dont get along with each other,another point for you to consider.

Yeah,the US is an angel,only wants to do good in the ME,how could i ever have doubted that.

That is BS,the YPG/PKK threatened to stop any more fights against ISIS if Manbij was handed over to Turkiye,the same was stated to Russia and thats the only reason why the US and Russia backstabbed my country,as usual.
Now the YPG/PKK is commited to fight until ISIS is gone,a good deal for the US,Russia,Assad,Iran,Shia Iraq and in the end for YPG/PKK,they will gain independence.
And again i say,you dont know what you are talking about,just speculations from your side.

Once ISIS is defeated, and if a Kurdish state is established which attacks Turkey,
I don't see a problem with Turkey defending themselves.

 

[Zhukov]

If TTP was to start combatting ISIS in Afghanistan would you stop fighting them? Even if they continue carrying out attacks against Pakistani security forces?

Sor you are grossly comparing two very different scenarios.
I mean seriously?
Look at the region.
Syria is a country controlled by Syrian Arab Army fully backed by Russia.
Iraq is armed to teeth by American weapons and Irani support.
And the kurds you are talking about. Syrian Rojawa and Peshmarga. they are not some rag tag militants. They are popular forces of a whole ethnicity stretching from syrian to iraq.
And what else? Syrian Arab Army and Government of Iraq are supporting Kurds for there fight against ISIS.
What do you want tukey to do? Invade Syria and Iraq?
Come on man. Comparsion to thora soch kar kia karo

 

[cabatli_53]

@A.P. Richelieu

Do not use the word "Kurd" While introducing terrorist organization PKK/PYD/YPG to introduce Turkish community something like the enemy of a race. I accept such statements of yours as mistype but If you proceed such behavior to justify a terrorist organization with the words like an army of Kurd population vs Turks, You will receive penalty.

 

[A.P. Richelieu]

@A.P. Richelieu

Do not use the word "Kurd" While introducing terrorist organization PKK/PYD/YPG to introduce Turkish community something like the enemy of a race. I accept such statements of yours as mistype but If you proceed such behavior to justify a terrorist organization with the words like an army of Kurd population vs Turks, You will receive penalty.

I am of the impression that all PKK/YPG/PYD are Kurds.
but all Kurds inside/outside Turkey are not PKK/YPG/PYD.
No disagreement there.

PKK has been branded a terrorist organisation by the EU. YPG/PYD has not.

These organisations wants autonomy, and if they do declare themselves as a state
I would be surprised if they would not call themselves implying they are a Kurdish state.

I do not assume that all Kurds wants to join such a state.

I do not think that I justify any terrorist acts.

Churchill had a good formulation.

 

[SouI]

PKK has been branded a terrorist organisation by the EU. YPG/PYD has not.

They are the same thing, thus they don't need to be separately recognised as such.

And this is Turkish subforum, not EU. What EU does is totally meaningless and thus totally irrelevant to us, this subforum and our country.