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Chinese warships force Indian submarine to surface in Gulf of Aden

Indian news sources are unreliable.

So-called pirate "mother-ship" was in fact a Thai trawler, and that news wouldn't have even surfaced if not for a single survivor.

Also, it was like the imaginary Chinese coco island SIGNIT base that never actually existed, which Indian media thought it did for over a decade.

The IN ship's commander is on record saying that the ship was firing on the IN warship and men wielding RPG's were visible on the deck. They did not start the skirmish. IN ship retaliated and sunk the 'trawler'.

You can all wonder why the 'trawler' was shooting at the IN ship.
 
According to webmaster of bharat rakshak as well as many other Indians, Chinese and Pakistani subs are dead meat. So maybe he is just returning the favour? :tongue:

something published as an opinion on a board or even an article(by an indian, pakistani, chinese etc) is far different from something published as a news.

apparently this point is very blurred for you.
 
pakistan or paksitan doesnt matter
nobody consider u a nation
even ur friends
htp://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/4964934.stm:cheers:
Pakistan a failed state: US Congressman Frank Pallone- Hindustan Times
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Pakistan's literacy rate has increased from 35 percent in 1991 to 39 percent in .2001:rofl: India of which nearly 67 percent from less than 50 percent in 1961
so who is more iliiterate?:bunny:

Yawn, what'sup with all the frustration? My silly Hindu friend.
Would you like a one-way ticket out of this board back to your craphole Bharat Rakshak? Where you can find more hate filled Hindu warmongerers just like you who get excited and ejaculate over anything that might bring harm to Pakistan?
 
my dear muslim friend,
do you have to behave as silly as him to prove that he was silly?:disagree:
btw, his tone might be inapproriate, his facts are not. think about it.
 
Read this 2007 news :

The uninvited guest: Chinese sub pops up in middle of U.S. Navy exercise, leaving military chiefs red-faced

By MATTHEW HICKLEY
Last updated at 00:13 10 November 2007



When the U.S. Navy deploys a battle fleet on exercises, it takes the security of its aircraft carriers very seriously indeed.

At least a dozen warships provide a physical guard while the technical wizardry of the world's only military superpower offers an invisible shield to detect and deter any intruders.

That is the theory. Or, rather, was the theory.


American military chiefs have been left dumbstruck by an undetected Chinese submarine popping up at the heart of a recent Pacific exercise and close to the vast U.S.S. Kitty Hawk - a 1,000ft supercarrier with 4,500 personnel on board.

By the time it surfaced the 160ft Song Class diesel-electric attack submarine is understood to have sailed within viable range for launching torpedoes or missiles at the carrier.

According to senior Nato officials the incident caused consternation in the U.S. Navy.

The Americans had no idea China's fast-growing submarine fleet had reached such a level of sophistication, or that it posed such a threat.

One Nato figure said the effect was "as big a shock as the Russians launching Sputnik" - a reference to the Soviet Union's first orbiting satellite in 1957 which marked the start of the space age.

The incident, which took place in the ocean between southern Japan and Taiwan, is a major embarrassment for the Pentagon.

The lone Chinese vessel slipped past at least a dozen other American warships which were supposed to protect the carrier from hostile aircraft or submarines.

And the rest of the costly defensive screen, which usually includes at least two U.S. submarines, was also apparently unable to detect it.

According to the Nato source, the encounter has forced a serious re-think of American and Nato naval strategy as commanders reconsider the level of threat from potentially hostile Chinese submarines.

It also led to tense diplomatic exchanges, with shaken American diplomats demanding to know why the submarine was "shadowing" the U.S. fleet while Beijing pleaded ignorance and dismissed the affair as coincidence.

Analysts believe Beijing was sending a message to America and the West demonstrating its rapidly-growing military capability to threaten foreign powers which try to interfere in its "backyard".

The People's Liberation Army Navy's submarine fleet includes at least two nuclear-missile launching vessels.

Its 13 Song Class submarines are extremely quiet and difficult to detect when running on electric motors.

Commodore Stephen Saunders, editor of Jane's Fighting Ships, and a former Royal Navy anti-submarine specialist, said the U.S. had paid relatively little attention to this form of warfare since the end of the Cold War.

He said: "It was certainly a wake-up call for the Americans.

"It would tie in with what we see the Chinese trying to do, which appears to be to deter the Americans from interfering or operating in their backyard, particularly in relation to Taiwan."

In January China carried a successful missile test, shooting down a satellite in orbit for the first time.

The uninvited guest: Chinese sub pops up in middle of U.S. Navy exercise, leaving military chiefs red-faced | Mail Online
 
China-India Naval Duel? Not Quite

http://china.blogs.time.com/2009/02/05/china-india-naval-duel-not-quite/

It had the makings of a pretty good story. Three Chinese warships patrolling against pirates in the Gulf of Aden--an unusually remote mission for the Chinese navy--were stalked by an Indian submarine. The Indian interloper is discovered, pursued and eventually forced to surface by the Chinese convoy. You have two rising powers squaring off "Hunt for Red October" style, with China proving that its navy can handle more than a gang of pirates.

There's one small problem though. The story is apparently fiction. While there are reports of some jostling between the two navies, which would be expected given China's high-profile mission far beyond its waters, the story of the submarine surfacing appears to have come from a faked news report. The original source was a piece in a Chinese publication called the Qingdao Chenbao. The Feb. 3 story was republished by some mainland web portals, and picked up the next day by the South China Morning Post. (The subscription-only story is here, complete with an editorial cartoon that says, "Captain Singh! I think they're on to us.") The Indian military denied the report.

One poster on a Chinese bulletin board soon pointed out that story lifted several parts verbatim from a 2008 story about a training mission in PLA Life magazine. Then the official media jumped in, noting that details of the Chinese ships' location on the date of the alleged confrontation don't match what was recorded in the state press. And it turns out that there is no publication called the Chenbao listed for Qingdao.

I discussed the item earlier today with Andrei Chang who edits a military news publication called Kanwa Asian Defence. "I'm sure it's a fake news story," Chang says. He notes that some details of the piece don't make sense, including why exactly the Indian sub would be forced to surface. He says fake military stories have appeared in China both under his name and Jane's Defence News. Fake products "are not just shoes or clothes," he says. "It includes stories."
 
Some of you people apparently cannot read.

Assuming that this is accurate, China had already detected a submarine shadowing its warships as it passed through the Indian Ocean and discovered those same patterns in the Gulf of Aden. Sounds to me like the PLAN heard them Indian rust buckets from a planet away.

The simple fact that the submarine was discovered was pretty embarrasing to say the least. Compare that the 2006 Kitty Hawk incident when the Chinese sub was completely undetected until it decided to reveal itself within a mere 5 miles to the CV.

And when a Submarine is forced to surface, you can damn well bet that it's considered dead meat.

The Indians were never good warriors and they are not about to become spartans anytime soon. When push comes to shove, they drop their pants and run! It happened in 1962 and on many other occasions.
 
...And yet your country was liberated thanks to India's help. You don't have to like me mate (you can hate me as much as you want for all I care) but at least show some appreciation for the people who died for your land:

"Is it not possible to acknowledge the Indian martyrs during our victory celebrations—those who sacrificed their lives in the foreign soil of Bangladesh?"

Bangladesh Genocide Archive Role of India

Jamatis and Rajakars opposed the liberation of Bangladesh, so there's no reason they should be thankful for Indian help.
 

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