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Chinese Nuclear Submarine Seen At Karachi, Too Close For Comfort

Wow you openely admit you fought as slaves for Americans for some aid,now used changed your master & loyalty to China.In future you want Russia to master you.Why such slavery mindset.wah wah mangaye Pakistani mindset ko.Keep doing that.
Pakistan fought against communism, not for aid.. it was and still a vital party to Afghanistan 's stability..Those are strategic alliances, the Idea of master and slaves is entertained only by the US and its NATO allies, so beware India is new slave of the US.. at least Pakistan had some sound reasons to fight communism and obviously some aid came from the capitalist West.. What are the reasons for India to become the new slave of the west? One might think about high technology and sophisticated weapons to face China, but with Chinese posture in the world today that is more like a wet dream or a day dream.. if and most probably, western relations with China will still improve better, more high tech and better weapons will be made by China based on the most advanced R&D in the world.., so it is a sour bet from India.. All the west is looking for is cheap labor, but made in India doesn't look good in the eyes of western consumers, maybe subcontracting, but no made in India Slogan for western market.. that made in India works only for local market, hence you buy the goods and tech , you try to improve it and make a buck out of it, but no one will buy it, not the West anyways.. Talk about slavery!
 
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It's the Chinese that should feel uneasy with these developments....that their premiere nuclear submarines are so easily tracked and located!!!
Do you want to see where all Indian subs are docked? do a google map search!

The 1970s-era Type 091 is hardly a "premiere" submarine when most units of the class have already been retired. Additionally, the article mentioned that the boat was spotted only by satellite imagery after it had surfaced and docked.
Maybe Pakistan is going to lease it, like what the Indians did with the Russian Acula class!?

i just want to ask one question ashok.why are you monitoring chinese presence in indian ocean? they have never said that they want confrontation with indian navy.why india is so worry? what is the reason of objection? do you think that china wants confrontation or do you believe that you want confrontation against chinese navy? do you really think that china and india will fight a war? a war really?
That is because it is called the Indian ocean, some Indians and even some officials think it literally belongs to India.. look what Australia and France did to this thought ..they have totally exposed the secrets of the most valuable Indian submarines,,the Scorpene to the whole world, talk about some subtile reprisal message, mostly when it comes to Australia's (read western) hegemony in the Indian ocean..
 
We don't even need to use our expensive satellites for the job....when can be easily spotted on google earth lol...
indian submarine detected by google. Technological failure,
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Indians are flipping out because they know if their navy had any clue about the submarine they would have announced it to the world just to prove Indian anti-submarine warfare capability. Modi would be talking about some shupa powa choking China's transportation lanes in the Indian Ocean. The fact that the submarine surfaced in Karachi without a peep from Indian Navy means they had no clue.

The fact that our nuclear submarines docked in Karachi means that we can choke India's sea lanes when they attack Pakistan to distract from Kashmir insurrection.
 

A peanut brain will be always a peanut brain portcall and having a base? China is going have a base in Pakistan and you are giving them land for few $$$ ? People still did not forget Shamsi air base was used to kill pakistanis and you started again.




A port call and u monkeys go retard? rule ur bla bla bla... side effects of a thousand years of humiliation.

Thats showing in you when you were ruled by Delhi for 1000s years from Red Fort. Next time you open your mouth remember your Emperor your master seats in the Red Fort not in Lahore. :D You was just another province. Over 1000s years you might have got used to get orders from Delhi?

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I see another bhopal and devyani type clown shytting from his face.
Hes a monkey.

Apple is manufacturers Iphone in China, if there is an industrial accident is it equivalent to surgical strike killing OBL? Is arresting a diplomat over a maidservent abuse equal to killing of 28 Pakistani soldiers and thousands of Pakistanis by drone? Shame on you .

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_NATO_attack_in_Pakistan

Still you take money from same country! And you are repeating same with China! So happy to invite them to have a base!! lol

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...istan-air-strike-that-killed-24-soldiers.html

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com...lion-aid-to-pakistan/articleshow/55767971.cms

@Areesh @AUz @PWFI
 
A peanut brain will be always a peanut brain portcall and having a base? China is going have a base in Pakistan and you are giving them land for few $$$ ? People still did not forget Shamsi air base was used to kill pakistanis and you started again.

@Areesh @AUz @PWFI


Take a chill pill kid.

China is not getting any base in Pakistan and even it does being a bharati you should be the last to worry how it would turn out for Pakistan.
 
A peanut brain will be always a peanut brain portcall and having a base? China is going have a base in Pakistan and you are giving them land for few $$$ ? People still did not forget Shamsi air base was used to kill pakistanis and you started again.






Thats showing in you when you were ruled by Delhi for 1000s years from Red Fort. Next time you open your mouth remember your Emperor your master seats in the Red Fort not in Lahore. :D You was just another province. Over 1000s years you might have got used to get orders from Delhi?

red_fort_new_delhi_india.jpg

Mughal.jpg








Apple is manufacturers Iphone in China, if there is an industrial accident is it equivalent to surgical strike killing OBL? Is arresting a diplomat over a maidservent abuse equal to killing of 28 Pakistani soldiers and thousands of Pakistanis by drone? Shame on you .

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_NATO_attack_in_Pakistan

Still you take money from same country! And you are repeating same with China! So happy to invite them to have a base!! lol

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...istan-air-strike-that-killed-24-soldiers.html

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com...lion-aid-to-pakistan/articleshow/55767971.cms

@Areesh @AUz @PWFI
:lol: an other shameless and one of our ancestors illegitimate Vegitablr trying to act smart...."you guys were ruled by dehli..." :lol:
 
A peanut brain will be always a peanut brain portcall and having a base? China is going have a base in Pakistan and you are giving them land for few $$$ ? People still did not forget Shamsi air base was used to kill pakistanis and you started again.



And a shythead would make a lot of assumptions through his behind... As for base clown did you forget your past?




https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/CIA_activities_in_India

http://m.timesofindia.com/india/Neh...dian-air-base-Report/articleshow/21856926.cms

http://m.thehindu.com/news/national...-airbase-to-snoop-on-china/article5028660.ece




Thats showing in you when you were ruled by Delhi for 1000s years from Red Fort. Next time you open your mouth remember your Emperor your master seats in the Red Fort not in Lahore. :D You was just another province. Over 1000s years you might have got used to get orders from Delhi?

red_fort_new_delhi_india.jpg

Mughal.jpg

I'm sure you great grandpas were from the other side of Indus right ? They just magically became indic... Also how ironic you are proud of our kin ruling your curry behinds from Delhi.
Apple is manufacturers Iphone in China, if there is an industrial accident is it equivalent to surgical strike killing OBL? Is arresting a diplomat over a maidservent abuse equal to killing of 28 Pakistani soldiers and thousands of Pakistanis by drone? Shame on you .

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_NATO_attack_in_Pakistan

Still you take money from same country! And you are repeating same with China! So happy to invite them to have a base!! lol

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...istan-air-strike-that-killed-24-soldiers.html

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com...lion-aid-to-pakistan/articleshow/55767971.cms

@Areesh @AUz @PWFI


Assswipe .. We cut off US supplies made them beg us to open the borders and apologise ...

An American comes fuks up dozens of thousands of Indians in Bhopal .. US doesn't even give a fuk... Your diplomat gets her vagina and anus searched .. Nobody gives a shyt.
 
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How does Vietnam equals as anything strategic?

Pak is for China as Vietnam is fro India,
China - India
Pak - Vietnam.

Lolz and what will indian ships do ? Challenge China in SCS ?
Then who will save new delhi from the raim of rocket artillery ? Hanuman? :D
They are your neighbour . you arnt australia.
LOL
India is much much more powerful than the Aussies. :cheers:
 
LOL, that's why I called you the i word above. You are absolutely clueless (just as majority of your fellow countrymen).

You actually think we haven't gotten any results for ourselves due to our military interventions, alliances, and geopolitical maneuvering?

Here's a little insight from Pakistani perspective (Take 3 minutes to actually read if you want to get enlightened).

Benefits for Pakistan's Afghan intervention against Soviet Union

Background

When Soviet invaded Afghanistan, nobody in the world thought that Soviets could "fail" in the region thanks to their immense military strength, suitable situation in Afghanistan as influential government/Civil factions were Pro-communist in Afghanistan, and Soviet's complete control over Central Asia (hence they did not have to fight a prolonged war with stretch logistics like U.S in Vietnam. They were literally fighting in their backyard). Soviet Invasion was literally heavens for india but for Pakistan, It was a disaster. We were Sandwiched between hostile global Superpower (USSR) military fsupporting anti-Pakistan government to our West (Afghanistan) and our arch enemy to the East (india). Plus, our geography is such that we did not have any depth as Pakistan is a latitudinal country and our West-to-East "width" is very little (especially compared to India). So absolutely worst case scenrio (likes of which modern indian military has never faced).

Any other nation in such situation would have given up, but Pakistan isn't any other nation. We launched our effort against Godzilla itself (Soviets). We started to train insurgents and sent our officers to lead the fight against Soviet forces invading our Western flank. In the beginning, when Pakistani military and diplomatic officials asked for U.S backing--the U.S administration responded "Afghanistan is a closed chapter for us" (Reagen's exact words) since they did not believe in the viability of defeating USSR in its own backyard (border regions). This has been very well documented in the works of Pakistani diplomats and retired military officers from the era (and not disputed by US at all). It was only AFTER the initial successes of Pakistani-led covert war against the Soviet Union that U.S saw "viability" of financially investing in Pakistani (covert) war effort against the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan.

So Pakistan and its intelligence were the prime geopolitical party in launching a counter covert war against the Soviet invasion. We were later joined by our allies (Arab states and U.S) due to alignment of their ideological and national interests with ours.

Defeat of hostile superpower

Our war efforts resulted in Soviet defeat in Afghanistan (which contributed significantly to it's dismemberment). In this way, we defeated the hostile superpower. Soviets were always aligned with our enemy (india) and they showed their extreme enmity in 71' war by openly supporting india in every way against us. We not only took our revenge, but also defang our enemy's most powerful supporter internationally.

Domination of our Western flank by installing pro-Pakistan government in Afghanistan

Furthermore, we completely destroyed anti-Pakistan Afghan factions in the aftermath of war. Our proxies took over the hostile country and absolutely decimate any Afghan capacity to rise against us in any meaningful manner. In this geopolitical masterstroke, we completely secured our Western flank forever. No Afghan government (even if pro-India) can ever challenge us ever again from Western front. Hence, we successfully protected Pakistan's survival from any serious harm origination from Afghanistan. We gained unprecedented influence in Afghanistan which we still hold today. Afghanistan can never rise up against us, even if government of Afghanistan is "anti-Pakistan" in nature. We control decisive factors in Afghanistan locally (Pushtoon population factions, Afghan Talibans). All thanks to our efforts and geopolitical investments in the region.

Completion of our nuclear program

A lot of people (even in Pakistan) forget that Afghan war decade allowed us the critical time to become a full fledged nuclear weapons power. By fighting against Soviets in Afghanistan successfully, and bringing the United States in side of our support (for their own greater interests)--we developed a window whereby the West couldn't outright stop us from developing our nuclear weapons even though it knew that we were becoming a nuclear weapons state (from just being nuclear energy producing state before). That is why literally right after USSR left Afghanistan, we were sanctioned by the U.S (But by that time, we had already built our nuclear weapons). Our strategy of fighting USSR was absolutely critical for us to complete our nuclear weapons program without Western intervention (which was an absolute possibility, as events have shown us in the aftermath of Afghan war).

Our role as an Islamic state for wider global Islamic civilization

As we all know, Pakistan was created as an Islamic state---and post 1960's identified itself as part of the global Islamic Civilization rather than being "indian by culture"...So our Afghan war effort gave us an opportunity to stand for our own stated values and state vision.

As discussed above, any other nation facing the odds we faced would have 'surrendered' to the mighty Soviet Union at the time, entered the 'Soviet bloc', and would have enjoyed the benefits in terms of economic development. Afghanistan got run over by soviets? who cares? Each nation protect its own interests and bending down for your own survival isn't something out of this world, right? But no, Pakistan refused to bend down against the red plague that had openly declared war on Islam, destroyed thousands of Mosques, and officially banned Islam from lands it engulfed.

Pakistan's involvement in Afghan war brought millions of refugees, Islamic extremism, and drug wars to Pakistani cities and we haven't recovered since. Consequentially, we lost thousands of our citizens in last three decades (a fact indians love to bring up).

But here's another way of looking at it.

Pakistan, being an Islamic State, took the initiative and confronted the Soviet might in the mountainous rigid lands of Afghanistan (later U.S and Arabs joined in with their help, funding, weapons etc). The war proved a critical nail in Soviet's coffin, especially its rule across Central Asia---and eventually communism fell...Guess what happen as a result?

After fall of Soviet...Islam further gained 4,000,000 sq km territory and whole Central Asia also became decisively "Muslim-Majority" (Mashallah to that!). Tens of millions of Muslims were free from communist persecution. Thousands of mosques were opened inside Russian mainland, let alone in wider Central Asia. Global Islamic Civilisation extended even further globally and established itself in all corners of planet Earth. So much so that today, Islamic Civilisation has established itself in the heartlands of West..with tens of millions Islamic people establishing thousands of thriving communities all across West with their own unique culture, religion, and identity.

In this regard, Pakistan played its role of being an "Islamic state" under which vision it was created. It overlooked it's short-term risks for the more permanent interest of the wider, global Islamic World and Islamic peoples. Pakistan took the damage for sure...we brought devastation in some parts of our own land (FATA region) but the "gain" was way larger, way more global and permanent in nature. What we did and what followed was of historical value. Yeah, the 'benefits' weren't for Pakistanis only..but then again, Pakistan sees itself not as a secular, tribal state but a part of the wider, global civilization linked-together by Islam's civilizational principles and cultural underpinnings common to Islamic peoples worldwide.

So Pakistan, being an ideological state as our founding documents stated, played completely rational role which served our interests geopolitically as well as ideologically. Pakistan played an important role for something far bigger than itself. It's funny, Muslims of Pakistan have already played a greater role in the construction of history than Hindus ever have in their entire existence going back thousands of years :azn:. What have india achieved outside its territory in its entire existence? What have your "investments" given you? Zilch. Nothing! India, being irrelevant as it is, never even played any major role in history own its own, let alone having any fruits of indian efforts.

Now you have a bit of an idea what our geopolitical "investments" achieved for us, Muslim Pakistanis.

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Loved your post, good job
 
What's the big fuss about a port call? These Indians cry for nothing, it's not like we are going to launch 24 nuclear tipped slbm from it
 
Indians are flipping out because they know if their navy had any clue about the submarine they would have announced it to the world just to prove Indian anti-submarine warfare capability. Modi would be talking about some shupa powa choking China's transportation lanes in the Indian Ocean. The fact that the submarine surfaced in Karachi without a peep from Indian Navy means they had no clue.

The fact that our nuclear submarines docked in Karachi means that we can choke India's sea lanes when they attack Pakistan to distract from Kashmir insurrection.
yup. Indian military depend on Google earth as their eyes
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