Chinese Navy (PLAN) News & Discussions

[Kyusuibu Honbu]

Then as I say, India and China have no issues. India wants to exert its influence in Indian Ocean so that no one can threaten it, blockade it or the like, similar to China's intent in the China Seas.

Rather, India and China should cooperate, because frankly we have two totally different strategic zones, which don't overlap.

What say? @Syama Ayas

While researching on the issue Chinese submarine confronting American naval vessel, I stumbled on a wikileaks cable, where a high level person from US Navy met his Chinese counterpart.

The Chinese counterpart bluntly stated, US navy should take care of the Pacific and PLAN would take care of the other side, the American thought the Chinese counterpart was joking, but later considered this as long term Chinese Navy's goal

This conversation has caught the attention of Ajit Doval and has mentioned this in a response to question regarding Chinese threat and interpreted this PLAN's intentions to dominate Indian Ocean.

Also, assessing PLAN goals should factor in the divergence between CCP leadership and PLA leadership in mind.

Cooperation with China is off the table, the approach of using carrot for Chinese appeasement has been tried by previous Govts of India, Australia and Japan also initially by current US Govt, which has not given the expected result.

Hence all of them are resorting to use the stick for the Chinese.

 

[rational]

While researching on the issue Chinese submarine confronting American naval vessel, I stumbled on a wikileaks cable, where a high level person from US Navy met his Chinese counterpart.

The Chinese counterpart bluntly stated, US navy should take care of the Pacific and PLAN would take care of the other side, the American thought the Chinese counterpart was joking, but later considered this as long term Chinese Navy's goal

This conversation has caught the attention of Ajit Doval and has mentioned this in a response to question regarding Chinese threat and interpreted this PLAN's intentions to dominate Indian Ocean.

Also, assessing PLAN goals should factor in the divergence between CCP leadership and PLA leadership in mind.

Cooperation with China is off the table, the approach of using carrot for Chinese appeasement has been tried by previous Govts of India, Australia and Japan also initially by current US Govt, which has not given the expected result.

Hence all of them are resorting to use the stick for the Chinese.

Sir is it true action was taken against some high level PLA commanders after xi jinping Indian tour due to confrontation between PLA & IA troops in ladakh last year ?

 

[Genesis]

Sir is it true action was taken against some high level PLA commanders after xi jinping Indian tour due to confrontation between PLA & IA troops in ladakh last year ?

Ask yourself this instead, if China was really so messed up that PLA commanders don't listen to civilian heads, then how the hell did India fall so far behind in economic policies and development.

It's as clear as day the Chinese government works, but some like to pretend it isn't.

Don't fall into that trap. Xi takes actions against high level commanders, because there is corruption, but more importantly, as you can see recently, he's slashing some 170,000 officers by reforming the Chinese military.

He's telling them, this can go one of two ways, protest and die (cause no one is completely clean, even if he is, no one would believe him), or retire and live.

Also if he really couldn't control the PLA, he certainly can't take action. People from a position of weakness usually can't take action against people from a position of strength. There's a reason for that.

 

[rational]

Ask yourself this instead, if China was really so messed up that PLA commanders don't listen to civilian heads, then how the hell did India fall so far behind in economic policies and development.

It's as clear as day the Chinese government works, but some like to pretend it isn't.

Don't fall into that trap. Xi takes actions against high level commanders, because there is corruption, but more importantly, as you can see recently, he's slashing some 170,000 officers by reforming the Chinese military.

He's telling them, this can go one of two ways, protest and die (cause no one is completely clean, even if he is, no one would believe him), or retire and live.

Also if he really couldn't control the PLA, he certainly can't take action. People from a position of weakness usually can't take action against people from a position of strength. There's a reason for that.

You taking me in a wrong way something like this was reported last year I think maybe in Reuters but I am not sure thats why i asked him & development in India has happened not like what we see in China & our lacking has nothing to do with not having IM & GOI on same page,IM has never interfered in GOI work

 

[Genesis]

You taking me in a wrong way something like this was reported last year I think maybe in Reuters but I am not sure thats why i asked him & development in India has happened not like what we see in China & our lacking has nothing to do with not having IM & GOI on same page,IM has never interfered in GOI work

The first point was just a contrast, if India doesn't have any problem, why would China.

Reuters has a reporter name Gordon Chang, they are as credible when it comes to China, as the US army spokesperson.

If you were to really think about the question, it's really the same mumble jumble that democratic countries has been saying about authoritarian countries. People hate what they don't understand.

 

[cirr]

JN-D8

Launch in a few days？

 

[cnleio]

JN-D8

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Launch in a few days？

The more , The better , Made in China.

 

[cirr]

The more , The better , Made in China.

2016 is promising to be a very important year for the PLAN with the launch and construction of more 052Ds ，055、001A、075 etc etc etc。

DL's D1（Judging by the latest satellite image，the launch of DL's D2 is not far off）：

A cool-looking ship that deserves a round of applauses

 

[cnleio]

2016 is promising to be a very important year for the PLAN with the launch and construction of more 052Ds ，055、001A、075 etc etc etc。

DL's D1（Judging by the latest satellite image，the launch of DL's D2 is not far off）：

A cool-looking ship that deserves a round of applauses

I heard the DaLian shipyard's D2 already out ... just not see photo yet.

DaLian's D1

 

[Echo_419]

Look at the Indian media and their forumer naive thnking. You really think India is worthy to partner China?
不怕神的对手，只怕猪的队友。

Russian is worthy to partner China but not India.

Do tell why do you think that India is not a worthy partner for China

 

[Beast]

Do tell why do you think that India is not a worthy partner for China

India is too obsessed with competing with China and refused to accept the upper hand held by the Chinese.

I heard the DaLian shipyard's D2 already out ... just not see photo yet.

DaLian's D1
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Her completion is far from the launch of JN D launch. I will not be suprised if Dalian needs 3 years to commission her into PLAN service.

 

[cirr]

Said to be the 31st Type 056 awaiting launch at HDZH：

 

[Echo_419]

India is too obsessed with competing with China and refused to accept the upper hand held by the Chinese.


Her completion is far from the launch of JN D launch. I will not be suprised if Dalian needs 3 years to commission her into PLAN service.

How should we rectify this mistake ? Will a letter from Modi saying that high IQ Chinese are superior than us, will suffice ? & do tell how are we competing with China & present something different from the usual Indian media report.

 

[Beast]

How should we rectify this mistake ? Will a letter from Modi saying that high IQ Chinese are superior than us, will suffice ? & do tell how are we competing with China & present something different from the usual Indian media report.

Why need rectification? You indians can continue to live in your fantasy dream while real progress delude you

 

[Echo_419]

Why need rectification? You indians can continue to live in your fantasy dream while real progress delude you

I am sorry that I expected a Serious answer from you