Chinese military: Taiwan's F-16V useless against the PLA

[Tumba]

Taiwan can buy all the fighter jets they want but they are powerless against the missile power of the PLA. PLA will strike every airfield in Taiwan.

thats correct regarding missile strikes with awesome force of Chinese Rocket Forces nobody doubts that, but Taiwan must have kept this in mind and surely planned for this, there are some strategies even a novice like myself can think off to keep the airforce in game one of the things I can think of is using allied bases under USA and also using tunnel airfields, military airfields can be repaired overnight also so saying that initial strikes by chinese through cruise missile or otherwise will totally take Taiwan's air force out of game is some what hard to believe.
And F-16V is an awesome machine which is much matured than any Chinese fighter so not sure Chinese can get air dominance over Taiwan's air space also and you can never discount USA jumping in and provide defensive shield against Chinese thrust that too can not be discounted.

 

[UKBengali]

thats correct regarding missile strikes with awesome force of Chinese Rocket Forces nobody doubts that, but Taiwan must have kept this in mind and surely planned for this, there are some strategies even a novice like myself can think off to keep the airforce in game one of the things I can think of is using allied bases under USA and also using tunnel airfields, military airfields can be repaired overnight also so saying that initial strikes by chinese through cruise missile or otherwise will totally take Taiwan's air force out of game is some what hard to believe.
And F-16V is an awesome machine which is much matured than any Chinese fighter so not sure Chinese can get air dominance over Taiwan's air space also and you can never discount USA jumping in and provide defensive shield against Chinese thrust that too can not be discounted.

China will have to launch full scale war and it will take 1 year to defeat Taiwan, provided USA does not intervene.

 

[Tumba]

China will have to launch full scale war and it will take 1 year to defeat Taiwan, provided USA does not intervene.

China will never have 1 year, China once decides to unify Taiwan it has at max a 3-4 weeks to totally defeat the Taiwan's military after that USA will definitely jump in with its navy providing Air cover and naval cover and once USA comes in there will be ceasefire so not to take war inside mainland.
And whatever strategy you take Chinese with its current naval power will not be able to stop Taiwan's supply lines or totally secure Taiwan's all flanks with in that duration also Air dominance over Taiwan can not be achieved with in that time period. Chinese needs to increase there Naval projection power manifolds before they take this step they need to match US Navy so that if USA jumps into save Taiwan ... Chinese would have equal presence in all of seas of planet and a big naval base somewhere in Cuba so that USA also fears same treatment of war in their own mainland, once Chinese naval presence matches with USA, Taiwan will itself submit for unification.

 

[Beidou2020]

thats correct regarding missile strikes with awesome force of Chinese Rocket Forces nobody doubts that, but Taiwan must have kept this in mind and surely planned for this, there are some strategies even a novice like myself can think off to keep the airforce in game one of the things I can think of is using allied bases under USA and also using tunnel airfields, military airfields can be repaired overnight also so saying that initial strikes by chinese through cruise missile or otherwise will totally take Taiwan's air force out of game is some what hard to believe.
And F-16V is an awesome machine which is much matured than any Chinese fighter so not sure Chinese can get air dominance over Taiwan's air space also and you can never discount USA jumping in and provide defensive shield against Chinese thrust that too can not be discounted.

Do you really believe that China will lose to Taiwan in a war?

China will have losses, but there is no way that China is losing a war to Taiwanese independence forces. Sorry, not going to happen.

 

[maithil]

What other supporting weapon systems are being sold to Taiwan ? Just F-16s don't make much sense.

 

[Tumba]

Do you really believe that China will lose to Taiwan in a war?

China will have losses, but there is no way that China is losing a war to Taiwanese independence forces. Sorry, not going to happen.

I never said lose, I said Chinese doesnt have enough naval projection power as of now to hit conventionally on mainland USA, the day it has equal naval projection power to USA, USA will never dare to enter in Taiwan's protection as of now US Navy can effectively deploy superior naval power in Taiwan theater in matter of 3-4 weeks max, if China can totally defeat Taiwan's military swiftly inside that time frame China can take over Taiwan but its not possible for Chinese to totally defeat Taiwan in that time frame.

 

[Nasr]

China is not India. Remember that. China is in a league of its own.

My dear Chinese friend and brother, I know that China is not India. But I also know how the zionist-pigs plot and plan.

If you look at the "big picture", then you would see that zionist-America is setting us (China, Russia and Pakistan) up.

With Russia, the zionists have taken Ukraine with regime change. To cut off Russia from the Black Sea, by regime change in Ukraine to annul Sevastopol Naval Base lease and to extend NATO military reach to Russia's doorstep. Russia checkmated the zionists in Ukraine by taking back Crimea and holding ground in the Donbass region. NATO's presence in the Baltic States is another attempt by zionists, in encircling Russia. Presence of zionist-American military in Central Asian Republic, namely Uzbekistan, Kyrgyzstan and Afghanistan.

With China, the zionists are openly encouraging the reclusive Japanese state to start building it's military with an offensive punch. The zionists are doing the same in Australia, with an expansion of their navy in terms of firepower. Same goes for Taiwan, by arming the renegade province with new F-16s. Plus zionist-American military presence in South Korea, makes for a total encirclement of China. On it's southern border, zionists have been propping up India with new weapons.

By themselves, neither Japan, South Korea, Australia or India, could ever challenge China. However, where a scenario is created (with the help of false flags of course), combined militaries of Japan, South Korea and Australia, backed up American military presence in the region, can and would defeat China. That is the entrapment I was referring to. They (zionist-scum) have already accomplished such tactics in WW1 on the Continent of Europe. Then successfully implemented it in WW2, on a global scale. Now they're gearing up for round three and just like a chess game, they are positioning their chess-pieces in place.

Which is why I keep on reminding everyone (whoever would pay attention and listen), that it is imperative for peace to be established in Afghanistan. It is pivotal for Pakistan to eradicate corruption and build a robust economy. A secured, stable and powerful Pakistan is essential to defeat the zionists. If you have a powerful Pakistan (unattached by any saudi/qatari/emirati/bahraini/kuwaiti allegiances), you will have a peaceful Afghanistan. And if you have both Afghanistan and Pakistan stable and powerful, then Sino-Russian alliance will have Central Asian Republics. And if Sino-Russian alliance has these "Seven Central Asian Countries", this protect the Asian Continent against War.

Along with Pakistan, both Iran and Turkey need to get their act together. Otherwise all target countries in zionist's crosshairs (Russia, China, Pakistan, Iran & Turkey) would be duped into the same defeat that Germany, Russia and the Ottomans suffered. In other words, we would be suckered into a war and be defeated.

 

[obj 705A]

China will have to launch full scale war and it will take 1 year to defeat Taiwan, provided USA does not intervene.

China would need an entire year for Taiwan? hahahahahaha nice joke.
China would need 7 days or less to get Taiwan, on the first day 1000 ballistic/cruise missiles would destroy Taiwan aircrafts & defenses then every single area suspected of housing a military or political leader would be bombed, after that 1000 airstrikes (PLA only needs 330 aircrafts to achieve this number of airstrikes) would be launched daily against the taiwan army, all comand centers would be destroyed, 6 bombs would be dropped per airstrike for a total of 6000 bombs daily, Taiwanese soldiers will think it's hell on earth & they would be unimaginably demoralized, they would literaly cry out of fear & they would say "God please save me from this hell", at which point China will drop leaflets telling Taiwan soldiers to lay down their arms & they will be spared & live a happy life or else they will die, by the time PLA soldiers land on Taiwan they would face zero ristance.

previously I said China didnt already take Taiwan because they don't want a trade war with the EU/Japan, I believe there is also a second reason... the Chinese are by far the most peacefull people mankind has ever seen, they don't want to turn the life of Taiwan soldiers in to a living hell especially since the Taiwanese are their brothers, they are like family.

 

[UKBengali]

China would need an entire year for Taiwan? hahahahahaha nice joke.
China would need 7 days or less to get Taiwan, on the first day 1000 ballistic/cruise missiles would destroy Taiwan aircrafts & defenses then every single area suspected of housing a military or political leader would be bombed, after that 1000 airstrikes (PLA only needs 330 aircrafts to achieve this number of airstrikes) would be launched daily against the taiwan army, all comand centers would be destroyed, 6 bombs would be dropped per airstrike for a total of 6000 bombs daily, Taiwanese soldiers will think it's hell on earth & they would be unimaginably demoralized, they would literaly cry out of fear & they would say "God please save me from this hell", at which point China will drop leaflets telling Taiwan soldiers to lay down their arms & they will be spared & live a happy life or else they will die, by the time PLA soldiers land on Taiwan they would face zero ristance.

previously I said China didnt already take Taiwan because they don't want a trade war with the EU/Japan, I believe there is also a second reason... the Chinese are by far the most peacefull people mankind has ever seen, they don't want to turn the life of Taiwan soldiers in to a living hell especially since the Taiwanese are their brothers, they are like family.

How old are you?

 

[obj 705A]

How old are you?

pfft is that the best thing you could come up with?

 

[UKBengali]

pfft is that the best thing you could come up with?

You are talking like Taiwan has not already prepared for a Chinese attack by ballistic missiles.
They have lots of SAM defences to defend key sites like airbase and command centres, and aircraft are parked in hardened shelters.
At the end of the day China will have to land hundreds of thousands of troops on Taiwan and they will need transport ships for that - easy prey for Taiwanese anti-ship missiles.

I suggest you read up a bit on how hard it is to carry out amphibious landings opposed before posting any further.

 

[F-22Raptor]

Do you really believe that China will lose to Taiwan in a war?

China will have losses, but there is no way that China is losing a war to Taiwanese independence forces. Sorry, not going to happen.

China cannot pull off a successful amphibious invasion of Taiwan. It doesn't have the lift or necessary amount of escort ships to do it. And many of those would end up at the bottom of the Taiwan Strait. There is only 1 or 2 beaches Chinese forces can land in Taiwan, which will be heavily defended by mines, artillery, missiles, and aircraft. They also have dug tunnels stocked with tanks, and underground bunkers for their fighter aircraft. Taiwan is also very mountainous, ideal for guerilla warfare. Chinese supply lines would also be at severe risk to US intervention. Whatever minimal amount of Chinese forces survived the assault, they could be starved to death due to lack of supplies.

You don't have a good grasp of what it will take to invade Taiwan. It will make Normandy look like a walk in the park. US intervention will make it near impossible.

You are talking like Taiwan has not already prepared for a Chinese attack by ballistic missiles.
They have lots of SAM defences to defend key sites like airbase and command centres, and aircraft are parked in hardened shelters.
At the end of the day China will have to land hundreds of thousands of troops on Taiwan and they will need transport ships for that - easy prey for Taiwanese anti-ship missiles.

I suggest you read up a bit on how hard it is to carry out amphibious landings opposed before posting any further.

China would need 2 million minimum to invade Taiwan.

 

[CIA Mole]

Nuclear war will solve everything

 

[F-22Raptor]

In the invasion of Normandy, Allied forces needed a force of 200,000 Naval personnel and 150,000 invasion force. Germany had a force of 50,000 in defense. So the Allies required a force at least 3 times that of Germany to stage a successful invasion. We also have to remember that the Allies had total air and naval superiority prior to the invasion, none of which China will have in a hypothetical invasion of Taiwan.

Taiwan has a force of 3 million , active or reserve, dedicated to the defense of Taiwan. They also have access to weaponry that is exponentially more lethal that that of WW2 weapons. The terrain is far more perilous than of France. They will also have US and Japanese forces in their defense.

China will require an invasion force in the millions, minimum, to stage a successful invasion. And China doesn't have anywhere near the lift or escort capacity to conduct that and likely never will. China can't do it, and if they tried, their military will be left in shambles.

 

[vi-va]

He is correct. A handful of fighter jets wont do much against the overwhelming odds in China's favour. It may prolong the inevitable by a day or two

Taiwan politicians knew it very well, but they can't resist the kickback.