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China’s Submarine Fleet, Evolution & news
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Teacherman,
Of course, China won't be selling any SSNs... however, if Pak builds a SSN in a decade or so many things come Pak's way, many roads, many lanes...
It is rather subtle and refined form of manufacturing.
China wants to have stability around its periphery... balance of power in South Asia is already disturbed.... have you followed what is going on with Dalai and South Tibet and not to forget CPEC.
Everything is interconnected. It always is.....
So, of course, China will NEVER sell any of such tech to anyone.
Yet Pak will have a SSN or two down the road.
Subtle, sublte, they become soundless,
Mysterious, mysterious, they become formless
The facility in question is primarily geared towards acceleration in shrinking capability gaps. Let us not be surprised to see China churning out SSNs from it just like their shipbuilding spree.
Hope you had great Easter.
Regards,
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Why not? SSBN may be hard to get but why SSN?
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China is building a giant nuclear submarine facility
It can build four subs at a time.
By Jeffrey Lin and P.W. Singer Yesterday at 11:15pm
Giant Factory
When this enclosed submarine factory begins operation later this year, the Bohai Shipbuilding Heavy Industry Co. (BSHIC) will be able to quickly build nuclear submarines. Assembling SSNs in a building also provides the advantage of sheltering against the weather, not to mention nosy spy satellites.
Starting later this year, China's new submarine factory on the Yellow Sea will churn out nuclear-powered attack submarines—also known as SSNs—all but ensuring that the sub program of the People's Liberation Army Navy (PLAN) will be a deadly global force.
Bohai Shipbuilding Heavy Industrial Corporation is putting the finishing touches on its new facility, which will start production this year. BSHIC, based in Huludao, Liaoning Province, is China's only builder of nuclear submarines. It previously built the Type 091, 093 nuclear attack submarines (SSN) and Type 092 and 094 nuclear ballistic missile submarine (SSBN). Why is this building such a big deal? Simple, really: inside a superstructure, submarines are hidden from snoops, spies, and satellites. It also provides a controlled environment for development and construction.
In Parallel
The module assembly hall is well equipped, with gantry cranes for lifting SSN modules in position and parallel rails for moving completed hull sections further down the assembly line. Once fully operational, the assembly line could enable China to at least match USN SSN production.
The massive new assembly hall, which measures more than 430,000 square feet, has enough room for two parallel production lines; each production line has one half dedicated to assembling and attaching together submarine modules, and the other half dedicated to finishing the hull with quieting measures like anechoic tiles. That's enough space for four SSN's to be built simultaneously (two sets of modules being assembled at one end, and another pair of assembled hulls being fitted out before launch). Once completed, the SSN is rolled off the line and into the ocean. The assembly hall can also handle construction of the next generation SSBN, the Type 096
Type 095 SSN
The Type 095 SSN, seen in this speculative fanmade rendering, will likely have VLS cells for launching a wide range of cruise missiles, plus pumpjet propulsion and improved quieting technology. The first Type 095 will likely begin production in late 2017 at the new BSHIC factory, with many more to follow in the 2020s.
The facility is reported to begin construction on the first Type 095 SSN later this year. The Type 095 is expected to have a single/hybrid pressure hull, pumpjet propulsion and vertical launch system cells, making it (at least) superior to older SSNs like the U.S.'s Los Angeles III and Russia's Akula II.
http://www.popsci.com/china-nuclear-submarine-facility#page-2
It can build four subs at a time.
By Jeffrey Lin and P.W. Singer Yesterday at 11:15pm
Giant Factory
When this enclosed submarine factory begins operation later this year, the Bohai Shipbuilding Heavy Industry Co. (BSHIC) will be able to quickly build nuclear submarines. Assembling SSNs in a building also provides the advantage of sheltering against the weather, not to mention nosy spy satellites.
Starting later this year, China's new submarine factory on the Yellow Sea will churn out nuclear-powered attack submarines—also known as SSNs—all but ensuring that the sub program of the People's Liberation Army Navy (PLAN) will be a deadly global force.
Bohai Shipbuilding Heavy Industrial Corporation is putting the finishing touches on its new facility, which will start production this year. BSHIC, based in Huludao, Liaoning Province, is China's only builder of nuclear submarines. It previously built the Type 091, 093 nuclear attack submarines (SSN) and Type 092 and 094 nuclear ballistic missile submarine (SSBN). Why is this building such a big deal? Simple, really: inside a superstructure, submarines are hidden from snoops, spies, and satellites. It also provides a controlled environment for development and construction.
In Parallel
The module assembly hall is well equipped, with gantry cranes for lifting SSN modules in position and parallel rails for moving completed hull sections further down the assembly line. Once fully operational, the assembly line could enable China to at least match USN SSN production.
The massive new assembly hall, which measures more than 430,000 square feet, has enough room for two parallel production lines; each production line has one half dedicated to assembling and attaching together submarine modules, and the other half dedicated to finishing the hull with quieting measures like anechoic tiles. That's enough space for four SSN's to be built simultaneously (two sets of modules being assembled at one end, and another pair of assembled hulls being fitted out before launch). Once completed, the SSN is rolled off the line and into the ocean. The assembly hall can also handle construction of the next generation SSBN, the Type 096
Type 095 SSN
The Type 095 SSN, seen in this speculative fanmade rendering, will likely have VLS cells for launching a wide range of cruise missiles, plus pumpjet propulsion and improved quieting technology. The first Type 095 will likely begin production in late 2017 at the new BSHIC factory, with many more to follow in the 2020s.
The facility is reported to begin construction on the first Type 095 SSN later this year. The Type 095 is expected to have a single/hybrid pressure hull, pumpjet propulsion and vertical launch system cells, making it (at least) superior to older SSNs like the U.S.'s Los Angeles III and Russia's Akula II.
http://www.popsci.com/china-nuclear-submarine-facility#page-2
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China is building the world's largest nuclear submarine facility
It can build four subs at a time.
By Jeffrey Lin and P.W. Singer Yesterday at 11:15pm
BSHIC
Giant Factory
When this enclosed submarine factory begins operation later this year, the Bohai Shipbuilding Heavy Industry Co. (BSHIC) will be able to quickly build nuclear submarines. Assembling SSNs in a building also provides the advantage of sheltering against the weather, not to mention nosy spy satellites.
Starting later this year, China's new submarine factory on the Yellow Sea will churn out nuclear-powered attack submarines—also known as SSNs—all but ensuring that the sub program of the People's Liberation Army Navy (PLAN) will be a deadly global force.
Bohai Shipbuilding Heavy Industrial Corporation is putting the finishing touches on its new facility, which will start production this year. BSHIC, based in Huludao, Liaoning Province, is China's only builder of nuclear submarines. It previously built the Type 091, 093 nuclear attack submarines (SSN) and Type 092 and 094 nuclear ballistic missile submarine (SSBN). Why is this building such a big deal? Simple, really: inside a superstructure, submarines are hidden from snoops, spies, and satellites. It also provides a controlled environment for development and construction.
BSHIC
In Parallel
The module assembly hall is well equipped, with gantry cranes for lifting SSN modules in position and parallel rails for moving completed hull sections further down the assembly line. Once fully operational, the assembly line could enable China to at least match USN SSN production.
The massive new assembly hall, which measures more than 430,000 square feet, has enough room for two parallel production lines; each production line has one half dedicated to assembling and attaching together submarine modules, and the other half dedicated to finishing the hull with quieting measures like anechoic tiles. That's enough space for four SSN's to be built simultaneously (two sets of modules being assembled at one end, and another pair of assembled hulls being fitted out before launch). Once completed, the SSN is rolled off the line and into the ocean. The assembly hall can also handle construction of the next generation SSBN, the Type 096
Medico-MAX
Type 095 SSN
The Type 095 SSN, seen in this speculative fanmade rendering, will likely have VLS cells for launching a wide range of cruise missiles, plus pumpjet propulsion and improved quieting technology. The first Type 095 will likely begin production in late 2017 at the new BSHIC factory, with many more to follow in the 2020s.
The facility is reported to begin construction on the first Type 095 SSN later this year. The Type 095 is expected to have a single/hybrid pressure hull, pumpjet propulsion and vertical launch system cells, making it (at least) superior to older SSNs like the U.S.'s Los Angeles III and Russia's Akula II.
http://www.popsci.com/china-nuclear-submarine-facility#page-2
It can build four subs at a time.
By Jeffrey Lin and P.W. Singer Yesterday at 11:15pm
BSHIC
Giant Factory
When this enclosed submarine factory begins operation later this year, the Bohai Shipbuilding Heavy Industry Co. (BSHIC) will be able to quickly build nuclear submarines. Assembling SSNs in a building also provides the advantage of sheltering against the weather, not to mention nosy spy satellites.
Starting later this year, China's new submarine factory on the Yellow Sea will churn out nuclear-powered attack submarines—also known as SSNs—all but ensuring that the sub program of the People's Liberation Army Navy (PLAN) will be a deadly global force.
Bohai Shipbuilding Heavy Industrial Corporation is putting the finishing touches on its new facility, which will start production this year. BSHIC, based in Huludao, Liaoning Province, is China's only builder of nuclear submarines. It previously built the Type 091, 093 nuclear attack submarines (SSN) and Type 092 and 094 nuclear ballistic missile submarine (SSBN). Why is this building such a big deal? Simple, really: inside a superstructure, submarines are hidden from snoops, spies, and satellites. It also provides a controlled environment for development and construction.
BSHIC
In Parallel
The module assembly hall is well equipped, with gantry cranes for lifting SSN modules in position and parallel rails for moving completed hull sections further down the assembly line. Once fully operational, the assembly line could enable China to at least match USN SSN production.
The massive new assembly hall, which measures more than 430,000 square feet, has enough room for two parallel production lines; each production line has one half dedicated to assembling and attaching together submarine modules, and the other half dedicated to finishing the hull with quieting measures like anechoic tiles. That's enough space for four SSN's to be built simultaneously (two sets of modules being assembled at one end, and another pair of assembled hulls being fitted out before launch). Once completed, the SSN is rolled off the line and into the ocean. The assembly hall can also handle construction of the next generation SSBN, the Type 096
Medico-MAX
Type 095 SSN
The Type 095 SSN, seen in this speculative fanmade rendering, will likely have VLS cells for launching a wide range of cruise missiles, plus pumpjet propulsion and improved quieting technology. The first Type 095 will likely begin production in late 2017 at the new BSHIC factory, with many more to follow in the 2020s.
The facility is reported to begin construction on the first Type 095 SSN later this year. The Type 095 is expected to have a single/hybrid pressure hull, pumpjet propulsion and vertical launch system cells, making it (at least) superior to older SSNs like the U.S.'s Los Angeles III and Russia's Akula II.
http://www.popsci.com/china-nuclear-submarine-facility#page-2
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By some guesstimate, roughly how long does it take to build every FOUR SSN or SSBN simultaneously at this new Bohai plant? Every two to three years roll out new four subs???
My expectation, by every two years at most the new factory can roll out four SSN or SSBN.
I wish China will build many more SSBN just to deter the USA's active military doctrine of employing the "First Nuclear Strike" or "Nuclear Primacy"... some mad men at the top of helm there are frightening the world with their faith of having the "Full Spectrum Dominance" that the USA can achieve a WINNABLE Nuclear War!
Installing the BMD around the world encircling both China and Russia is an obvious part of such madman military doctrine!
Look at http://www.globalresearch.ca/ for the related references.
My expectation, by every two years at most the new factory can roll out four SSN or SSBN.
I wish China will build many more SSBN just to deter the USA's active military doctrine of employing the "First Nuclear Strike" or "Nuclear Primacy"... some mad men at the top of helm there are frightening the world with their faith of having the "Full Spectrum Dominance" that the USA can achieve a WINNABLE Nuclear War!
Installing the BMD around the world encircling both China and Russia is an obvious part of such madman military doctrine!
Look at http://www.globalresearch.ca/ for the related references.
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We won't sell SSN to Pakistan, we will help them build their own.
Pakistan shall at least have 4 SSN.
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As I said, China will NEVER sell SSN to anyone.
Iron Brothers!
Rest is just....well rest.
The balance of power in south asia needs to be restored. The current state of affairs affects Iron Brohters negatively.
We must all excercise patience.
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The only brother of China is Pakistan, only. Who else can we trust except Pakistan? No one.
I think now is the right time for PN to launch its SSN project with China support.
Balance of power need to be addressed.
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Rumors that 095 has begun, to be deliver to PLAN in 2020
095隋巡航导弹核潜艇开工建造 2020年交付海军
http://www.fyjs.cn/thread-1864565-1-1.html
095隋巡航导弹核潜艇开工建造 2020年交付海军
http://www.fyjs.cn/thread-1864565-1-1.html
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Pakistan should aim for more reasonable goal, like full ToT on Yuan class submarine. I'm pretty sure it won't be a problem for China. For SSN, China will not be able to sell it easily, there is international concern that need to be addressed. It is nuclear powered after all. Though if Pakistan is willing to embark on building on its own, then certainly China can give an "advice" or two. But it will be costly for Pakistan to develop SSN on its own.
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The 430,000-square-foot plant will guard subs from prying eyes.
China is building a factory so big that when it's done, it will be able to accommodate the construction of four submarines at once—out of sight from military enthusiasts and spy satellites alike.
According to Popular Science, Bohai Shipbuilding Heavy Industrial Corporation is building the plant in Huludao, Liaoning Province. The place will have two parallel assembly lines. The gigantic hall reportedly is where China will begin construction on is latest attack submarine, the Type 095.
Artist's conception of Type 095 submarine.
Via Chinese Internet.
Despite having control over its Internet and press, the Chinese government has had enduring problems with military enthusiasts sneaking pictures of new ships and aircraft under development or construction. While some of this is useful to telegraph China's broader intentions and give a hint of its capabilities, the rest of it is considered a nuisance. Building an indoor submarine factory keeps sensitive subjects such as the hull shape of a submarine or even the propeller design a secret.
This does not necessarily mean China now has a submarine-building edge over the U.S. The U.S. Navy commissions about two submarines a year, each of which takes about three years to build. That puts U.S. submarine construction at about six at a time, ahead of this factory's four. Of course, China builds submarines at other locations too, and may even build them a little faster.
U.S. submarines are also built indoors. Here's a Virginia-class submarine with its pumpjet propulsion system under wraps.
Via Newport News shipyard.
Speed isn't everything. Even if China ends up capable of building more submarines per year than the United States can, there's the question of quality. The Type 095 is expected to be quieter that the second tranche of Los Angeles-class attack submarines that were built in the late 1980s, and Russian Victor III or Akula-class submarines built in the early 1980s.
In other words, China is approximately 30 years behind the United States in submarine quieting technology. Chinese submarines in the 1980s were about as quiet as American submarines from the 1950s, while modern American submarines such as the Seawolf or Virginia-class boats are so quiet they're described as "quieter at 25 knots than the Los Angeles class at pierside." This is not a field where China has been able to close the gap.
http://www.popularmechanics.com/mil...uilding-the-worlds-largest-submarine-factory/
