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China will ALWAYS be second to the West because they don't invent, they steal or copy. So they need to wait till they're able to steal or copy the 'newest thing'. By then, the West is on to something better. Always second fiddle.:usflag:

A country who led the world for just a century jeered at a country who had led the world for centuries?
You think you will lead forever? It won't take long to see the end.
And there is a Chinese idiom for people like you: 夏虫不可以语冰 LOL
 
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A country who led the world for just a century jeered at a country who had led the world for centuries?
You think you will lead forever? It won't take long to see the end.
And there is a Chinese idiom for people like you: 夏虫不可以语冰 LOL
Like how we beat their supercomputer for 4 straight years and top. American is now second best. :lol: American are bad loser. They cannot take defeat and only self bragging to comfort their wounded ego.
 
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Like how we beat their supercomputer for 4 straight years and top. American is now second best. :lol: American are bad loser. They cannot take defeat and only self bragging to comfort their wounded ego.

Since you have introduced supercomputing here, US is still the BEST in HPC. Almost all software, hardware, architectures, breakthroughs are happening in US. No doubt China is catching up rapidly. But right now, US is still ahead.
 
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For the CAPTOR this is a MK46 light-weight torpedo:

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Thank you very much !

Here is PLAN light-weight torpedo, Yu-7 and a unknown new light-weight torpedo
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China will ALWAYS be second to the West because they don't invent, they steal or copy. So they need to wait till they're able to steal or copy the 'newest thing'. By then, the West is on to something better. Always second fiddle.:usflag:
HAHA ... now China just second to U.S, not to all West. U r drunk !
 
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the israeli dolphin (the newer ones) have an X rudder with a single verticle rudder at the top.
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The X-planes perform the rudder function. The vertical fin is a fixed feature. It also has 2 horizontal fixed fins. TKMS is marketing a new small sub, using the internal layout of the Type 210 (Ula class, Norway) but with a modern outer hull, that incorporates the curved sail front and diving planes relocated from lower bow to upper bow area, like on Dolphin.

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The X-planes perform the rudder function. The vertical fin is a fixed feature. It also has 2 horizontal fixed fins. TKMS is marketing a new small sub, using the internal layout of the Type 210 (Ula class, Norway) but with a modern outer hull, that incorporates the curved sail front and diving planes relocated from lower bow to upper bow area, like on Dolphin.

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whats the new sub called or can you share the link
regards
 
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Astute class SSN
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Trafalgar class SSN
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Vanguard class SSBN
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Resolution class SSBN
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Barracuda class SSN
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Rubis class SSN
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Triomphant class SSBN
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Redoutable class SSBN
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@Penguin

Please ... even if surely interesting, but that thread's title is "Chinese ...", so why do You post images of several other submarines ??

Deino
If diving planes mounted on sail are so bad, how come they are used by some many?
 
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FIRST PICTURE OF CHINA'S SECRETIVE NEW SUBMARINE

THE TYPE 093B IS STEALTHY AND NUCLEAR

By Jeffrey Lin and P.W. Singer

Posted Yesterday at 10:30pm
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People's Navy Online

TYpe 093B SSN

The Type 093B SSN is China's newest nuclear attack submarine. Stealthy and fast, it can quickly fire a barrage of vertically launched cruise missiles at unsuspecting ships and land targets.

In June 2016, China's navy released a clear photo of its newest, stealthiest nuclear attack submarine (SSN) being loaded with missiles. China's nuclear submarines are among the most secretive Chinese military platforms--it's a rare event to have even a photo of a 40-year-old Type 091 Han submarine, or the Type 092 Xia nuclear ballistic missile submarine. So an official photo of a modern Type 093B submarine is definitely big news in the world of People's Liberation Army-watching.

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Jeff Head

Type 093

The Type 093 was designed in the late 1980s/early 1990s, and launched in 2002 and 2003. Only two Type 093s were built, as they are considered noisy and expensive, though much an improvement over the 1960s era Type 091 SSN. The Type 093B is believed to be much quieter than the Type 093, building on decades of Chinese advances in metallurgy and reactor/propulsion refinements.

The Type 093B "Shang" nuclear attack submarine is quiet, fast and the first Chinese combat submarine to be able to fire vertically launched cruise missiles. The United States Defense Department believes that three Type 093B SSNs were launched in 2015, and may enter service later this year. The original two Type 093 SSNs, launched nearly 15 years ago, were plagued by noisy reactors and propulsion systems, especially at high speeds, which limited their combat utility by making them highly detectable to enemy anti-submarine efforts. The Type 093B, in contrast, uses advances in Chinese metallurgy and reactor design to make a more quiet submarine. Experts place its stealthiness between that of the USN Los Angeles Flight I and Flight III SSNs.

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Xinhui via China Defense Forum

VLS

The VLS cells are housed in a module right behind the conning tower; its framed in this picture by the blue gangway. The VLS battery, which may have 12-16 cells, can carry a range of cruise missiles for anti-ship and land attack missions.

While the stealth and performance of the Type 093B's reactor are not discernible just from looking at the outside, there are other noticeable improvements. The biggest is the installation of a vertical launch system battery behind the conning tower, which can be seen in a hydrodynamic hump blended into the hull (the VLS battery can be seen under the blue gangway). The VLS cell gives the Type 093B an advantage over older Chinese attack submarines since instead of launching cruise missiles from the torpedo tubes, it can more quickly launch missiles from the VLS. The larger size of VLS cells also makes them a good place to launch future underwater robots and UAVs. The Type 093B will still carry torpedo tube-launched cruise missiles, as seen in this photo. (The Chinese sailors are clearly loading a cruise missile canister into the torpedo tube, given that the smooth canister lacks the control surfaces of a torpedo.)

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Xinhui via China Defense Forum

The Old Fashioned Way

Even with its vertically launched cruise missiles, the Type 093B SSN's torpedoes are still deadly against even aircraft carriers (though the crew is loading a torpedo tube launched anti-ship missile canister in this photo).

The Type 093B's conning tower has a flared base, similar to modern attack submarines like the Type 39C conventional submarine, and the American Virginia class SSN. The flared base could contain sensors, in addition to reducing under hydrodynamic drag and noise at certain speeds. There are also large installation mounts on the hull sides for side-mounted active sonar that will sweep for both surface warships and submarines.

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Hongjian at China Defense Forum

YJ-82 Canister

In addition to VLS cells, submarines can also fire anti-ship missile canisters from their torpedo tubes; the canisters surface and break open to launch their missiles. This older method though, imposes size constraints on the missile and is a slower firing method.

Impressive a leap as the Type 093B may be for China's underwater force, the PLAN is already working on its next SSN. The Type 095 nuclear submarine, which may be launched before 2020, has been described by the Office of Naval Intelligence as a nuclear cruise missile submarine (SSGN) meaning that it'll carry a significant amount of cruise missiles, in addition to being a stealthy ship and sub hunter killer. The Type 095 SSGN is also likely to be quieter than the Type 093B, as well having underwater networked capability to worth with other manned and unmanned platforms above and underwater, and improved passive and active sensors. China has been behind other Pacific powers like the US and Japan in the undersea realm, but these examples of military modernization show how it is racing to close the gap.

http://www.popsci.com/first-picture-chinas-secretive-new-submarine-type-093b


Nice Photos !

Waiting for First Type 095 SSN Photos :p:

These depictions of the "Type 095A" SSN are from the "Warship Knowledge" magazine, which is supposedly a reputable source with direct ties to the China Shipbuilding Engineering Society. This would be, if the aforementioned are valid, the first official admittance of the Type 095's existence.

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So by the end of this year, basically China will have:

Type 091G - 3
Type 092G - 1

Type 093 - 1
Type 093A - 1
Type 093B - 6

Type 094 - 2
Type 094A - 2
Type 094B - 2

Type 095 - ???
Type 096 - ???
According to Indonesia Metro TV, Chinese Ship 409 SSN sailed past Malacca on June 25. Based on your numbers count, this maybe one of the six 093B ?

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Chinese SSN 408?
 
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According to Indonesia Metro TV, Chinese Ship 409 SSN sailed past Malacca on June 25. Based on your numbers count, this maybe one of the six 093B ?

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Chinese SSN 408?

I saw the photo, it is clearly an upgraded variant of the Type 093, while some people to label it as the Type 093A, but I still believe this is the Type 09IIIB mentioned by POP3.
 
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