China’s Submarine Fleet, Evolution & news

[ChineseTiger1986]

It doesn't have the small hump, but it has the sloped joint between the tower and hull, so maybe it is the real Type 09IIIA.

 

[Tiqiu]

For me, the next Chinese SSN will be the Chinese 4th generation if its photos leaked on the net show(or are allowed us to see) one or all of the followings:
1) 4 decks instead of current 3;
2) different size and position of the sail;
3) bow planes on the hall toward the bow like SEA WOLF and VIRGINIA classes, which can lock and retract with the outer edges conformal to the hull automatically at a specified speed.

 

[Tiqiu]

I saw the photo, it is clearly an upgraded variant of the Type 093, while some people to label it as the Type 093A, but I still believe this is the Type 09IIIB mentioned by POP3.

Which photo did you see?

Has anyone seen this photo before? It just started circulating on the net showing some mobilization of the Chinese navy ships.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

Which photo did you see?
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Has anyone seen this photo before? It just started circulating on the net showing some mobilization of the Chinese navy ships.
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I've seen two Type 093 docked at the same time, and this recent one passing the strait of Malacca is a newer model with an improved tower, but still lacked the hump. So it is definitely the Type 093A.

So there are three variants of the Type 093 so far; Type 093/093A/093B.

 

[Tiqiu]

I've seen two Type 093 docked at the same time, and this recent one passing the strait of Malacca is a newer model with an improved tower, but still lacked the hump. So it is definitely the Type 093A.

So there are three variants of the Type 093 so far; Type 093/093A/093B.

Till now, from open source we know there are at least 4 093 and variants, if we add four 094, four 091/092(403 -406,401/402 were decommissioned),it will bring us a total of 12 nuclear subs.

Two 093 (maybe 407/408)

And there is one 093A(409)

And one 093B(4XX)

 

[Tiqiu]

Another possible 3 093A(or 093 variant) with VLS

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

We have more than four Type 094 SSBNs.


Here is three Type 094 SSBNs docked together, and they don't look too different from each other, so I assume they are just Type 094/094A.

Here is two very different looking Type 094, and the new designed tower, I guess these two are the Type 094B.

Overall, I estimate there are totally six Type 094 SSBNs being deployed so far, and other two under construction or sea trial. With eight Type 094 SSBNs being built, China will start to build the Type 096, and the total number could be up to twelve.

 

[星海军事]

We have more than four Type 094 SSBNs.


Here is three Type 094 SSBNs docked together, and they don't look too different from each other, so I assume they are just Type 094/094A.

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Here is two very different looking Type 094, and the new designed tower, I guess these two are the Type 094B.

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Overall, I estimate there are totally six Type 094 SSBNs being deployed so far, and other two under construction or sea trial. With eight Type 094 SSBNs being built, China will start to build the Type 096, and the total number could be up to twelve.

The one in the middle at the bottom is actually a type 092,

As you can see, the "new designed tower" of "type 094B" is a false impression.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

The one in the middle at the bottom is actually a type 092,

As you can see, the "new designed tower" of "type 094B" is a false impression.

So you just imply there are two Type 092? Because in the pic we have seen two of this type of SSBN.

But the only one Type 092 we got so far is 406.

 

[星海军事]

So you just imply there are two Type 092? Because in the pic we have seen two of this type of SSBN.

But the only one Type 092 we got so far is 406.

No. I meant both type 092 and 094 are likely to give people this kind of false impression.

There seems to be a fillet between the sail and hull of this 094.

In fact, there isn't.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

No. I meant both type 092 and 094 are likely to give people this kind of false impression.

There seems to be a fillet between the sail and hull of this 094.

In fact, there isn't.

This is the Type 092, if you see the slope in back of the tower.

The tower of the Type 094 is completely vertical.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

Here is the specification of the Type 093B.

Displacement: 8800 tonnes
Maximum Depth: 490 meters
Length: 115.10 meters
Beam: 10.56 meters
Hull: mixture of single and double
Propulsion: PWR & 2 x Steam Turbines 45,000 shp
Propeller: Pump-jet

 

[星海军事]

This is the Type 092, if you see the slope in back of the tower.

The tower of the Type 094 is completely vertical.

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Sorry, wrong image chosen, but the same problem still exists.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

Sorry, wrong image chosen, but the same problem still exists.

There are two of this type of SSBN in the pic, then it cannot be the 406.

 

[星海军事]

Here is the specification of the Type 093B.

Displacement: 8800 tonnes
Maximum Depth: 490 meters
Length: 115.10 meters
Beam: 10.56 meters
Hull: mixture of single and double
Propulsion: PWR & 2 x Steam Turbines 45,000 shp
Propeller: Pump-jet

If you are talking about the new model with small hump, it is propeller-driven. (GE image taken on 6/19/2016)

There are two of this type of SSBN in the pic, then it cannot be the 406.

As I mentioned above, both type 092 and 094 are likely to give people this kind of false impression. So the SSBNs in the photo can be either type 092 or 094. It is too small and blurry to be used as an evidence.