China's Picturesque Tibet Autonomous Region: News & Images

[Kyusuibu Honbu]

According to the fake Indian statistics provided above about 1 million died in China's Tibet between 1949-70.

Since when did "The Tibetan Post" become Indian?

In India, this happens every year. About 2 million kids die in India, which what massacre really means:

Almost 5,000 Indian Children Die Daily - India Real Time - WSJ

First the word massacre means:

Full Definition of MASSACRE
1
: the act or an instance of killing a number of usually helpless or unresisting human beings under circumstances of atrocity or cruelty
2
: a cruel or wanton murder
3
: a wholesale slaughter of animals
4
: an act of complete destruction <the author's massacre of traditional federalist presuppositions — R. G. McCloskey>

Massacre | Definition of massacre by Merriam-Webster

Going by your definition, the Great Leap famine which caused nearly 35 million deaths is also a CCP created "massacre"

Second,
The 2013 statistics for child mortality in India
Upper bound - 1.4 million
Lower bound -1.2 million

This is natural considering India has 350 million children about 100 million more than China

Now despite having such lower number Chinese "massacre" of under five children is poor.
Upper bound - 270,000
Lower bound -200,000
http://www.unicef.org/media/files/Levels_and_Trends_in_Child_Mortality_2014.pdf

That's why we ask "why Tibet is much richer than India?"

You ask so because of innate Intellectually dishonesty to mask CCP's economic exploitation of Tibet's natural resources at the cost of its natural residents.

Similar to European colonial exploitation of African colonies.

Its has been already proven, Tibet's economic output is not befitting its population in the below post.

Aside from naked display of cognitive dissonance which you have already pointed out, this thread is self-goal for some members from our Eastern border.

For starters it is rather naive to equate GDP per capita directly to wealth of Tibet or Tibetans.

For example Indian state of Kerala for 2013 has GDP percapita of $1350 i.e approx 1/3.5 times Tibet's GDP and has approx 10 times the population.

Despite which the HDI of 0.790 for 2008 which greater than whole CHina's HDI for 2013 i.e 0.719 and that of Tibet's for 2010 at 0.569.

Hence despite having higher GDP per capita of Tibetan than Keralite, the quality of life of a Tibetan is poor.

So that begs the question if the money from Tibet region is not going to development of Tibetan lives, then where is it going?

Spoiler

http://www.economist.com/news/china...-questions-about-rush-regions-resources-price

This gorging of Tibetan natural resources for benefit of rest of China, comes at another cost : ethnic Han Migration, which is credited for ethnic tensions in Tibet and Xinjiang



The whole idea is hiding the actual plight Tibetans who despite higher GDP per capita than India, come to India as refugees.

Another deluded belief is even if there is even actual economic and HDI improvement, Tibetans will be comfortable with Chinese rule, when the real issue is ethnic tensions.

Also, going by above logic Chinese would be very happy under Japanese rule given Japan was rising economic power when China was enduring the massive famine causing death of millions.


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Tibet's level of social-economic development cannot be compared to a social disaster called India in a meaningful way hence Indians resort to derail the question.

Its is already proven India HDI is already greater then Tibet's HDI in the below post, so either you have reading comprehension problems or simply spreading redundant lies

Why do some people so blatantly spread lies here?

Tibet HDI for 2010 - 0.569
India HDI for 2013 - 0.586

List of countries by Human Development Index - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

List of administrative divisions of Greater China by Human Development Index - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


In case your maths/ data interpretation is poor

0.586 > 0.569

Also greater HDI score means greater quality of life

I guess its too much to expect for proper quality propaganda

 

[TaiShang]

Indian massacre of its own population through corrupt, inept and nepotist policies is an ongoing phenomenon and that's exactly why it is level of social development is way below Sub-Saharan Africa.

Tibet, on the other hand, has been progressing with people's life being improved through scientific development.

 

[AnnoyingOrange]

Why is Tibet much richer than India?

in 2013:

India GDP per capita 1499 USD

Tibet: 4630 USD

From Income in India which has an easier to read picture List of Indian states by GDP

according to the data, the richest state in India is Delhi and its GDP per capita is around $3000.

For Indian Himalayan states which are near Tibet, the GDP per capita are just hundreds of dollar.

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"Tibet is the among the poorest province in China in terms of GPD per capita. But even that figure has been uphold artificially through external effort. Majority of Tibet's 3 million residents (0.2% of China's population) are devoted buddhist, who spend majority of their time praying and pilgrimage and generate little economic output. To mitigate this problem, the CPC has ordered all other province to spend 0.1% of their GDP to assist Tibet every year. This amounts to huge amount of money flowing into Tibet every year. Those money are mostly spent on infrastructure and education.

In Tibet, the education is free from kinder-garden all the way to the University level. On average each resident in Tibet receive additional subsidy of 6000 US dollar per year from the national budget. The average salaries in Tibet is one of the highest in all of Chinese provinces. With China getting richer day by day, huge amount of investment and wealth are pouring into the area. So the gap between Tibet and India is only going to become wider in the near future."

Comparing a country with 314 Million Population with a country with 1.25 Billion.... speaks volume of the OPs education level...and His very very very very high IQ

 

[TaiShang]

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Geothermal Energy Powers Tibet

Geothermal power, heat energy below the earth's surface, is an indispensable source of power to the Tibet Autonomous Region in Southwest China.

Located at the foot of Nyenchen Tanglha Mountain near Lhasa, Yangbajing power station, China's largest geothermal electricity generator, has been supplying power to the Tibetan capital and its surrounding areas for three decades.

Experts in water resources and electricity generation first discovered the rich geothermal resource in Yangbajing in 1975, and concluded that the hot energy could be tapped 300 meters underground. Then an exploration team from the Chinese Academy of Sciences dug the first well and successfully generated electricity.

Since 1977, a number of Chinese and foreign geothermal experts have come to Yangbajing and installed more powerful generators.

The United Nations Development Programme (UNDP) and the Italian government sent technicians and financial resources to Yangbajing power station since July 1982, and with their help, the station was equipped with power generators with installed capacity of 10,000 kilowatts in total in 1985. The Chinese central government has also invested 230 million yuan into Yangbajing until 1990, building it into a station that provides as much as one third of electricity that Lhasa needs.

Lhasa relies on the Yangbajing geothermal station mostly during the winter when hydroelectricity stations don't work.

In 2000 the Japan International Cooperation Agency, a government body, also helped fund the power plant and worked out a plan to exploit geothermal energy deeper into the earth, which enables the power station to work for another 30 years.

Director of the Yangbajing thermal power station Jiao Zhengyi said the Tibet Autonomous Region is rich in geothermal resources but has difficulties in exploiting the power as they are in a remote location compared to other energy stations in China.

During the past five years, it has had an annual electricity output of more than 100 million kw/h. Today Yangbajing is still the largest geothermal power station in the world, with the installed capacity of 24,180 kilowatts.

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Lhasa Railway Station (Pictured in 2011)




The central monitoring room at Lhasa Railway Station


The central monitoring room at Lhasa Railway Station


A train arrives at the station.


Staff at the train station help a Lama who suffers from disability problems.


A train attendant helps passengers take pictures.

 

[nForce]

Hell, when did I say it (edit:Buddhism is the identifier for your country ), In The First Place? Indian don't feel shame of lying.
And by the way, Han Buddhism and Tibetan Buddhism represents two parts of Buddhism, which is a statement by a Tibetan Buddhism professor I once watched.

Yeah ?

By the same logic, Tibet is occupied by China. period.

That's Buddhism thing, you don't know, the Hindustani. Tibetan buddhism and Han buddhism represents two part of the religion and how they combined together 800 years ago.

 

[Place Of Space]

Since when did "The Tibetan Post" become Indian?



First the word massacre means:



Massacre | Definition of massacre by Merriam-Webster

Going by your definition, the Great Leap famine which caused nearly 35 million deaths is also a CCP created "massacre"

Second,
The 2013 statistics for child mortality in India
Upper bound - 1.4 million
Lower bound -1.2 million

This is natural considering India has 350 million children about 100 million more than China

Now despite having such lower number Chinese "massacre" of under five children is poor.
Upper bound - 270,000
Lower bound -200,000
http://www.unicef.org/media/files/Levels_and_Trends_in_Child_Mortality_2014.pdf


You ask so because of innate Intellectually dishonesty to mask CCP's economic exploitation of Tibet's natural resources at the cost of its natural residents.

Similar to European colonial exploitation of African colonies.

Its has been already proven, Tibet's economic output is not befitting its population in the below post.





Its is already proven India HDI is already greater then Tibet's HDI in the below post, so either you have reading comprehension problems or simply spreading redundant lies

Already proven what? Cheerz this cup of Ganges water to improve Indian HDI

 

[nForce]

what a a miracle it would be that Tibetan population doubled from 1M to 2M during 1950-1980,had such a genocide existed.

BTW,
Before PLA liberated Tibet, Tibetan population has kept decreasing from 4M duirng 8th century to 1M in 1950.
it was just after PLA liberated tibet, that Tibetan population there started increasing.

Now, the Tibetan polulation in Tibet autonoumous region is about 3M.

So, until and unless the population itself starts decreasing, it is not a genocide, yeah ? You have put the standards pretty high there, or is it there are way too many disposable people ?

 

[AnnoyingOrange]

One question... is OP claiming that Tibet is a separate country...is is moving away from Official Chinese brief...

Does this establish that Tibet is a sovereign country ...and China accepts Tibet as a Nation?

 

[TaiShang]

I has been statistically proven that the ongoing silent genocide going on in India has way surpassed the claimed human toll between 1940s to 1970s.

It is normal that India would not be able to match China's Tibet province in terms of development, infrastructure, health and hygiene.

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China's Tibet gets greener
2015-7-10

Tibet's green coverage rate has grown by over 10 percent over the past five years due to afforestation and climate change, local meteorological authorities said on Thursday.

Satellite data shows the proportion of land covered by vegetation is 8 percent higher than it was in 2000, and that the growth rate has increased to over 10 percent since 2010, said Xiang Yuyi, vice director of the Tibet meteorological bureau.

In the past 15 years, the region's vegetation area has spread to about 214,000 square kilometers, which is about 18.8 percent of Tibet's surface area. But it has become less dense in about 204,000 square kilometers or about 18.3 percent of the total area.

The fact that Tibet's getting warmer and more humid has been an important factor in its greening, said Du Jun, director of the bureau's climate department.

From 1961 to 2014, the regional annual average surface temperature rose by 0.31 C every 10 years. Average annual precipitation has been rising by an average of 6.9 millimeters every 10 years. Du said that the environment has improved by government measures of limiting of herding activities to protect grassland.

 

[badguy2000]

well,

can people imagine such an odd occasion:

one day one rich tibetan tourist visit Bombay in India, and hired one guy as local driver/guide,who earns usually less than 400USD/month.

Can the lpoor ocal indian driver/guide has enough movation to teach the rich tibetan tourist how good democrazy in inida is ???

 

[Kyusuibu Honbu]

Comparing a country with 314 Million Population with a country with 1.25 Billion.... speaks volume of the OPs education level...and His very very very very high IQ

The whole idea was Intellectual dishonestly to mask Chinese economic exploitation of Tibet's natural resources.

When the truth is economic gains from Tibet is going into the pockets CCP oligarch.

which is vindicated by the fact Tibet has lower HDI than entire India.

Textbook example of typical colonial exploitation.

I had already debunked this earlier.

Aside from naked display of cognitive dissonance which you have already pointed out, this thread is self-goal for some members from our Eastern border.

For starters it is rather naive to equate GDP per capita directly to wealth of Tibet or Tibetans.

For example Indian state of Kerala for 2013 has GDP percapita of $1350 i.e approx 1/3.5 times Tibet's GDP and has approx 10 times the population.

Despite which the HDI of 0.790 for 2008 which greater than whole CHina's HDI for 2013 i.e 0.719 and that of Tibet's for 2010 at 0.569.

Hence despite having higher GDP per capita of Tibetan than Keralite, the quality of life of a Tibetan is poor.

So that begs the question if the money from Tibet region is not going to development of Tibetan lives, then where is it going?

Spoiler

http://www.economist.com/news/china...-questions-about-rush-regions-resources-price

This gorging of Tibetan natural resources for benefit of rest of China, comes at another cost : ethnic Han Migration, which is credited for ethnic tensions in Tibet and Xinjiang



The whole idea is hiding the actual plight Tibetans who despite higher GDP per capita than India, come to India as refugees.

Another deluded belief is even if there is even actual economic and HDI improvement, Tibetans will be comfortable with Chinese rule, when the real issue is ethnic tensions.

Also, going by above logic Chinese would be very happy under Japanese rule given Japan was rising economic power when China was enduring the massive famine causing death of millions.


@Roybot
@gslv mk3
@Rain Man
your opinions?

 

[TaiShang]

This is how development looks like which vast majority of Indian low caste lacks. China's scientific public policy:

***

Region takes to schooling, but process will take time

2015-09-03 09:07:00

Education in China's Tibet was once considered a privilege for nobles only.

For 73-year-old Tenzin, a former slave, the echoes of that tradition hit home: He didn't have a chance to enter school until he was 16 years old.

"I left home before sunrise and came back after sunset, herding sheep for my master. There were more than a thousand sheep and only two shepherds," the native of Xigaze said, adding that he never thought of attending school at the time.

"It was another life, not for people of my kind," he said.

In 1951, the year he turned 16, he witnessed the peaceful liberation of Tibet. Tenzin attended a government-run adult school in his early 20s to learn how to read and write.

Now the former slave has three grandchildren, the eldest of which has graduated from a university.

"In old times, slaves were not allowed to learn," Tenzin said.

The change in Tenzin's life is a drop in the ocean for the improvement of thousands of Tibetans' lives brought by education over the past 50 years.

According to the Education Bureau of the Tibet autonomous region, more than 95 percent of Tibetans were either illiterate or semi-literate before 1951.

In 1965, the region had 56,000 elementary school students and 1,359 middle school students. More than 12,000 students attended adult schools, according to the bureau.

The bureau's figures also show that through last year, almost all school-age children attended elementary and middle school, nearly 60 percent received early childhood education and more than 73 percent attended high schools. The average time for receiving an education in the region has grown to eight and a half years.

Free education

"To further encourage children from her dsmen's and farmers' families to go to school, the region has provided 15 years of free education, from kindergarten to high school," said Zhu Yun, vice-head of the region's Education Bureau.

The regional government began waiving urban students' tuition and other expenses in the compulsory education period (from the first to 9th grades) in 2007 and also provided free textbooks and new homework books to students.

In 2011, high schools began to be cost-free. In 2012, this policy was extended to urban kindergartens.

Since then, students who receive their education in Tibet from kindergarten to high school, regardless of whether they attend a public or private school, have been able to enjoy free education.

A total of 575,000 students are benefiting from the policy, the Education Bureau said.

Phurbu Dondrub, an 11-year-old boy from a herdsman's family in Ngari prefecture, is benefiting from the free education policy and is enjoying school.

"At school, I can play with my friends, have a better and warmer place to stay and have better food," Phurbu said.

As a fifth-grader, Phurbu has seen changes in the school's facilities.

"There was no playground or basketball court when I was in the first grade, and the classroom building only had one floor," he said, adding that the school built a new sports field and a two-story teaching building in the past year.

Because Phurbu's family lives on herding and must move around to find fresh grass for yaks and sheep, Phurbu became a boarding student in the fourth grade last year.

He quickly adapted to his new life and likes sharing a dormitory with seven other classmates.

Phurbu has about five months of vacation each year and helps his parents to graze yaks and sheep during these holidays.

"We have eight yaks and more than 500 sheep. My little sister and I are able to herd when we are at home, but I prefer to go to school rather than herding," he said, adding that his parents also support him in getting an education.

Difficulties

In the view of his principal, Pema Tashi, Phurbu is a lucky child from a open-minded family.

"The biggest headache for schools in remote areas is lack of parental support. Parents often trouble teachers and keep their children home for herding," he said, adding that the local education bureau has released a series of preferential policies to reward students with good academic achievements. The aim is to promote students' willingness to go to school.

Before being promoted to principal at Kunsha Township Elementary School in Gar county, Pema Tashi taught in another township in Ngari prefecture, Menshi township, which also is a herding area.

"Students sometimes skipped classes and went home. I once walked about five hours to chase students. Students ran fast because they were very familiar with the area, and I could only chase them blindly," he said.

"Students' family tents were moving around in different seasons, and I was not familiar with where they were. I was soon lost and there was no mobile phone signal. I had to move around to find a signal in order to connect with the school and ask them to locate me. Finally, I was able to connect with the school and they sent a vehicle to pick me up."

To increase students' willingness to attend school and improve parents' awareness about sending their children to get an education, the principal often rides his motorcycle to herding areas for PTA meetings to persuade parents about the importance of education.

"Some parents think education is useless because they can make money through grazing sheep or yaks," he said. "Children won't starve if they don't go to school. In addition, children provide an extra labor force for herding at home," he said, adding that parents' ideas about education are changing, but slowly.

"It is not a one-day or even a one-year job. Compared with my school days, it is a huge improvement but it still needs time," he said.

Students attend a biology class at the Lhasa Jiangsu Experimental School in the Tibet autonomous region in March.

 

[Kyusuibu Honbu]

well,

can people imagine such an odd occasion:

one day one rich tibetan tourist visit Bombay in India, and hired one guy as local driver/guide,who earns usually less than 400USD/month.

Tibet's GDP per capita being $4000 does not mean an average Tibetan will be more wealthier. it only means Chinese exploitation of Tibet's natural resources is lucrative.

Aside from naked display of cognitive dissonance which you have already pointed out, this thread is self-goal for some members from our Eastern border.

For starters it is rather naive to equate GDP per capita directly to wealth of Tibet or Tibetans.

For example Indian state of Kerala for 2013 has GDP percapita of $1350 i.e approx 1/3.5 times Tibet's GDP and has approx 10 times the population.

Despite which the HDI of 0.790 for 2008 which greater than whole CHina's HDI for 2013 i.e 0.719 and that of Tibet's for 2010 at 0.569.

Hence despite having higher GDP per capita of Tibetan than Keralite, the quality of life of a Tibetan is poor.

So that begs the question if the money from Tibet region is not going to development of Tibetan lives, then where is it going?

Spoiler

http://www.economist.com/news/china...-questions-about-rush-regions-resources-price

This gorging of Tibetan natural resources for benefit of rest of China, comes at another cost : ethnic Han Migration, which is credited for ethnic tensions in Tibet and Xinjiang



The whole idea is hiding the actual plight Tibetans who despite higher GDP per capita than India, come to India as refugees.

Another deluded belief is even if there is even actual economic and HDI improvement, Tibetans will be comfortable with Chinese rule, when the real issue is ethnic tensions.

Also, going by above logic Chinese would be very happy under Japanese rule given Japan was rising economic power when China was enduring the massive famine causing death of millions.


@Roybot
@gslv mk3
@Rain Man
your opinions?

Can the lpoor ocal indian driver/guide has enough movation to teach the rich tibetan tourist how good democrazy in inida is ???

Given that India hosts 150,000 Tibetan refugees, an Indian driver has nothing to explain, A Tibetan arrived in India is very much going will apply for refugee status.

 

[Place Of Space]

Yeah ?

The same meaning. Han Buddhism is mainly Buddha of Wenshu(文殊菩萨) performed and Tibetan Buddhism is Buddha of Guanyin（观音菩萨）performed.

Buddha of Wenshu in Wutai mountain

Buddha of Guanyin in Putala palace.

 

[Kyusuibu Honbu]

This is how development looks like which vast majority of Indian low caste lacks. China's scientific public policy:

Indian low castes are not enduring economic exploitation like this:

Aside from naked display of cognitive dissonance which you have already pointed out, this thread is self-goal for some members from our Eastern border.

For starters it is rather naive to equate GDP per capita directly to wealth of Tibet or Tibetans.

For example Indian state of Kerala for 2013 has GDP percapita of $1350 i.e approx 1/3.5 times Tibet's GDP and has approx 10 times the population.

Despite which the HDI of 0.790 for 2008 which greater than whole CHina's HDI for 2013 i.e 0.719 and that of Tibet's for 2010 at 0.569.

Hence despite having higher GDP per capita of Tibetan than Keralite, the quality of life of a Tibetan is poor.

So that begs the question if the money from Tibet region is not going to development of Tibetan lives, then where is it going?

Spoiler

http://www.economist.com/news/china...-questions-about-rush-regions-resources-price

This gorging of Tibetan natural resources for benefit of rest of China, comes at another cost : ethnic Han Migration, which is credited for ethnic tensions in Tibet and Xinjiang



The whole idea is hiding the actual plight Tibetans who despite higher GDP per capita than India, come to India as refugees.

Another deluded belief is even if there is even actual economic and HDI improvement, Tibetans will be comfortable with Chinese rule, when the real issue is ethnic tensions.

Also, going by above logic Chinese would be very happy under Japanese rule given Japan was rising economic power when China was enduring the massive famine causing death of millions.


@Roybot
@gslv mk3
@Rain Man
your opinions?