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You are obviously overlooking the fact those who take HSR are acutally paying for those who take the “green skins”（Chinese name for cheap rail services）。
China’s bullet trains facilitate market integration and mitigate the cost of megacity growth
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You are obviously overlooking the fact those who take HSR are acutally paying for those who take the “green skins”（Chinese name for cheap rail services）。
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Not really, it's plain, it's located exactly on the Yangtze River. The river flows Wuhan through, and cut Wuhan into three small cities. My city is full of river and lakes.
damn, Dong Guan is men's heaven.
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more clear example, if your officials take the huge public budget to build a chain of 5-stars hotels, and place a room rate so high.
is it fair for normal people, who never been able to afford for those rooms ?
the budget is from tax, and limited, so if you used much of it for 5-star hotels, the share for dormitory become less.
I fully support for HSR development, just mention the benefit for majority, .. a smaller share of budget to HSR ( or develop the network slower ) is more meaning.
The time would answer, I really don't want to justify anything, ... but once you put all your family savings to the Lamborgini ... your wife and child have fewer of choice.
is it fair for normal people, who never been able to afford for those rooms ?
the budget is from tax, and limited, so if you used much of it for 5-star hotels, the share for dormitory become less.
I fully support for HSR development, just mention the benefit for majority, .. a smaller share of budget to HSR ( or develop the network slower ) is more meaning.
The time would answer, I really don't want to justify anything, ... but once you put all your family savings to the Lamborgini ... your wife and child have fewer of choice.
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Nanjing and Guangxi look beautiful. Especially Nanjing, really developed now.
Not Nanjing，the capital of Jiangsu Province。
It is Nanning，the regional capital of Guangxi which shares a border with Vietnam。
Not really, it's plain, it's located exactly on the Yangtze River. The river flows Wuhan through, and cut Wuhan into three small cities. My city is full of river and lakes.
Huahaha yes.. Indeed..
We have crazy moment in dong guan with my best friends..
Back in 2008. When I studied mandarin in Beijing , I suppose study for 2 semester, but we decided to take a road trip with my friends ( 2 Thai , 1 Japanese, 1 Korean , 1 Canadian , and the only Indonesian MY self)
Right after we arrived in Guangzhou , my Japanese friend got a called from his relative to celebrate his birthday..
And yeah, we party in one of the best hotel in dong guan... Crazy night.. We spend 2 month traveling around china..
But china infrastructure not as good as today..
Seeing you guys have railway all over the country, give me a goosebumps .. You guys really developed with the speed of light.. Hahaha
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Done！
You can now take high-speed trains from Guilin to Beijing, Changsha etc.
Video showing train G530’s 1st departure from Guilin to Beijing:
《广西新闻》 广西进入高铁时代_新浪视频
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I guess he is unable to take that without more details. Because even Chinese is hard to take it easy
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Cost of High Speed Rail in China One Third Lower than in Other Countries
BEIJING, July 10, 2014 – By the end of 2013, China had built a high speed rail[1] network of over 10,000 route-km, far exceeding that in any other country and larger than the network in the entire European Union. It has been accomplished at a cost which is at most two-thirds of that in other countries. A new World Bank paper takes a look at this expansion, its construction unit costs and some of its key cost components. It also outlines reasons that may explain the comparatively low cost of high speed railway construction in China.
According to the paper titled High-Speed Railways in China: A Look at Construction Costs, several factors influence the cost of a high speed rail project construction. The major factors include the line design speed, topography along the alignment, weather conditions, land acquisition costs, use of viaducts instead of embankments, the construction of major bridges across wide rivers, and the construction of mega stations.
Laying track on viaducts is often preferred in China to minimize resettlement and the use of fertile land as well as to reduce environmental impacts. The estimated cost of viaducts in China ranges from RMB 57 to 73 m/km for a double track line. Such costs are kept low through standardization of the design and manufacturing process for casting and laying bridge beams on viaducts.
Special bridges that cross large navigable rivers or that need to accommodate special topographic features like mountains have much higher cost per kilometer than that of a regular viaduct. Usually such bridges represent a small percentage of the total number of bridges. Projects having larger proportion of special bridges tend to have a high unit cost.
Railway stations play a dual role as transport hubs and urban centers. Small stations (3,000 sq m station building) cost about RMB 40 million and account for 1.0 to 1.5 percent of the total project cost, while mega stations may cost up to RMB 13 billion and are frequently built as independent projects.
The paper notes that construction cost of high speed rail in China tends to be lower than in other countries. China’s high speed rail with a maximum speed of 350 km/h has a typical infrastructure unit cost of about US$ 17-21m per km, with a high ratio of viaducts and tunnels, as compared with US$25-39 m per km in Europe and as high as US$ 56m per km currently estimated in California.
“China has accomplished a remarkable feat in building over 10,000 km of high speed railway network in a period of six to seven years at a unit cost that is lower than the cost of similar projects in other countries,” said Gerald Ollivier, a World Bank Senior Transport Specialist and co-author of the paper. “Besides the lower cost of labor in China, one possible reason for this is the large scale of the high speed railway network planned in China. This has allowed the standardization of the design of various construction elements, the development of innovative and competitive capacity for manufacture of equipment and construction and the amortization of the capital cost of construction equipment over a number of projects.”
Cost of High Speed Rail in China One Third Lower than in Other Countries
BEIJING, July 10, 2014 – By the end of 2013, China had built a high speed rail[1] network of over 10,000 route-km, far exceeding that in any other country and larger than the network in the entire European Union. It has been accomplished at a cost which is at most two-thirds of that in other countries. A new World Bank paper takes a look at this expansion, its construction unit costs and some of its key cost components. It also outlines reasons that may explain the comparatively low cost of high speed railway construction in China.
According to the paper titled High-Speed Railways in China: A Look at Construction Costs, several factors influence the cost of a high speed rail project construction. The major factors include the line design speed, topography along the alignment, weather conditions, land acquisition costs, use of viaducts instead of embankments, the construction of major bridges across wide rivers, and the construction of mega stations.
Laying track on viaducts is often preferred in China to minimize resettlement and the use of fertile land as well as to reduce environmental impacts. The estimated cost of viaducts in China ranges from RMB 57 to 73 m/km for a double track line. Such costs are kept low through standardization of the design and manufacturing process for casting and laying bridge beams on viaducts.
Special bridges that cross large navigable rivers or that need to accommodate special topographic features like mountains have much higher cost per kilometer than that of a regular viaduct. Usually such bridges represent a small percentage of the total number of bridges. Projects having larger proportion of special bridges tend to have a high unit cost.
Railway stations play a dual role as transport hubs and urban centers. Small stations (3,000 sq m station building) cost about RMB 40 million and account for 1.0 to 1.5 percent of the total project cost, while mega stations may cost up to RMB 13 billion and are frequently built as independent projects.
The paper notes that construction cost of high speed rail in China tends to be lower than in other countries. China’s high speed rail with a maximum speed of 350 km/h has a typical infrastructure unit cost of about US$ 17-21m per km, with a high ratio of viaducts and tunnels, as compared with US$25-39 m per km in Europe and as high as US$ 56m per km currently estimated in California.
“China has accomplished a remarkable feat in building over 10,000 km of high speed railway network in a period of six to seven years at a unit cost that is lower than the cost of similar projects in other countries,” said Gerald Ollivier, a World Bank Senior Transport Specialist and co-author of the paper. “Besides the lower cost of labor in China, one possible reason for this is the large scale of the high speed railway network planned in China. This has allowed the standardization of the design of various construction elements, the development of innovative and competitive capacity for manufacture of equipment and construction and the amortization of the capital cost of construction equipment over a number of projects.”
Cost of High Speed Rail in China One Third Lower than in Other Countries
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The HSR were built for Chinese, not for Viets obviously we do not care that vietnamese people make less money. You should ride in rickshaws or bicycles if you want cheap.
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But that's the beauty of Guilin. Love the natural scenery.
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This guy is very narrow-minded, he can't see other's good and improvement.
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Well, arsenic water causes mental disease. Man, that article wasn't bullshitting at all. 9/10 Vietnamese here have mental disease.
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Yes, GuiLin has beautiful scenery and vigorous commerce. Their city is as beautiful as their natural beauty.
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Your high ranked officials are happy with that. Because they pocketed billions US dollars by HSR projects.
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