CHINA'S ANSWER TO THE HUBBLE TELESCOPE

[Lure]

Going to the moon wasn't answer.

Do you actually have any source to back this up?

Apollo program - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

In November 1960, John F. Kennedy was elected president after a campaign that promised American superiority over the Soviet Union in the fields of space exploration and missile defense. Using aerospace technology as a symbol of national prestige, he warned of a "missile gap" between the two nations, pledging to make the US not "first but, first and, first if, but first period."[4] Despite Kennedy's rhetoric, he did not immediately come to a decision on the status of the Apollo program once he became president. He knew little about the technical details of the space program, and was put off by the massive financial commitment required by a manned Moon landing.[5] When Kennedy's newly appointed NASA Administrator James E. Webb requested a 30 percent budget increase for his agency, Kennedy supported an acceleration of NASA's large booster program but deferred a decision on the broader issue.[6]

On April 12, 1961, Soviet cosmonaut Yuri Gagarin became the first person to fly in space, reinforcing American fears about being left behind in a technological competition with the Soviet Union. At a meeting of the US House Committee on Science and Astronauticsone day after Gagarin's flight, many congressmen pledged their support for a crash program aimed at ensuring that America would catch up.[7] Kennedy was circumspect in his response to the news, refusing to make a commitment on America's response to the Soviets.[8]

On May 25, 1961, twenty days after the first US manned spaceflight Freedom 7, Kennedy proposed the manned Moon landing in a Special Message to the Congress on Urgent National Needs

Some answer (after 25 years)

Late answer is much better than no answer.

 

[Penguin]

The insecure person who got upset about a title and called whomever or whatever pathetic before his analytical mind realized it was not doing his usual agenda anything good given who is responsible for it and now feigns ignorance.

tl.dr.: you

You just got yourself reported for personal attack. Keep it up.

Do you actually have any source to back this up?.

I don't need to. The Americans were in space the same month as Gagarin. Don't try to shift the discussion from Hubble to something else.

 

[Genesis]

I don't need to. The Americans were in space the same month as Gagarin. Don't try to shipt the discussion from Hubble to something else.

You made it into something else. You made the comment about the title, then defended your stance by saying the US didn't call it the answer.

China didn't call it the answer either, this is an American article, written by Americans, we have to take heat for what you write. Sounds convincing.

In this case, are you willing to bet your life nobody called the American mission the answer to the USSR mission during that time.

 

[Penguin]

You made it into something else. You made the comment about the title, then defended your stance by saying the US didn't call it the answer.

China didn't call it the answer either, this is an American article, written by Americans, we have to take heat for what you write. Sounds convincing.

In this case, are you willing to bet your life nobody called the American mission the answer to the USSR mission during that time.

Great, then I'l file a complaint with popular science. Meanwhile, the comparison with Gagarin and the Moon missions remains flawed and irrelevant. The USSR proceeded to stretch the limits of their single-pilot Vostok capsule into a two- or three-person Voshkod capsule to compete with Gemini. Voskhod did not have Gemini's capability to maneuver in orbit, and the program was terminated. The US Gemini flights did not accomplish the first spacewalk, but overcame the early Soviet lead by performing several spacewalks and solving the problem of astronaut fatigue caused by overcoming the lack of gravity, demonstrating up to two weeks endurance in a human spaceflight, and the first space rendezvous and dockings of spacecraft.

There was a space race, there is no telescope race.

G'day. (don't cry)

 

[Genesis]

Great, then I'l file a complaint with popular science. Meanwhile, the comparison with Gagarin and the Moon missions remains flawed and irrelevant. The USSR proceeded to stretch the limits of their single-pilot Vostok capsule into a two- or three-person Voshkod capsule to compete with Gemini. Voskhod did not have Gemini's capability to maneuver in orbit, and the program was terminated. The US Gemini flights did not accomplish the first spacewalk, but overcame the early Soviet lead by performing several spacewalks and solving the problem of astronaut fatigue caused by overcoming the lack of gravity, demonstrating up to two weeks endurance in a human spaceflight, and the first space rendezvous and dockings of spacecraft.

There was a space race, there is no telescope race.

G'day. (don't cry)

File it. In sports, when one team scores, and the other scores back, they sometimes call it answers back. Its not a competition of two points, but of the entire game. If we go even further, it's not a competition of a game, but an entire season. To go further, it is not the competition of an entire season, but the competition of the overall history of the team.

So, the use of answer still works in this case, just because a telescope race, is not the end all be all of space races, doesn't mean it isn't applicable here. It is one field, and the phrase is applicable.

So, no, the only one that's flawed is you, trying to come up with the tinniest of to prove a flawed point. Your no telescope race really exposed your entire argument.

Oh and right back at you.

 

[Penguin]

So, no, the only one that's flawed is you, trying to come up with the tinniest of to prove a flawed point. Your no telescope race really exposed your entire argument.

Oh and right back at you.

Sure, I'm flawed. Always have been. G'Day. (don't cry)

 

[C130]

File it. In sports, when one team scores, and the other scores back, they sometimes call it answers back. Its not a competition of two points, but of the entire game. If we go even further, it's not a competition of a game, but an entire season. To go further, it is not the competition of an entire season, but the competition of the overall history of the team.

So, the use of answer still works in this case, just because a telescope race, is not the end all be all of space races, doesn't mean it isn't applicable here. It is one field, and the phrase is applicable.

So, no, the only one that's flawed is you, trying to come up with the tinniest of to prove a flawed point. Your no telescope race really exposed your entire argument.

Oh and right back at you.

China is now just getting into the GAME. what you are doing is not game changing. Hubble was designed and built in the late 70's and 80's and has been operation for over 25 years!! it's ancient.

China is just walking on a path that's been paved over the last 6 decades by the U.S.S.R,USA,EU, and Japan.

I await the day when China discovers alien life, and lands on the moon or mars, til then it's just all hype.

in the end discoveries and results are what matters..

 

[Dungeness]

Who's getting emotional?

Your emotion is there for everyone to see. Just don't understand why you have to. Considering your status as TTA, it was not a nice showing. Insecurity, anxiety?

China is now just getting into the GAME. what you are doing is not game changing. Hubble was designed and built in the late 70's and 80's and has been operation for over 25 years!! it's ancient.

China is just walking on a path that's been paved over the last 6 decades by the U.S.S.R,USA,EU, and Japan.

I await the day when China discovers alien life, and lands on the moon or mars, til then it's just all hype.

in the end discoveries and results are what matters..

China never claims it is in race with any country in any field. They understand they are the new comer in many fields, so they are just playing catch-up according to their own plans. Some people got upset with the tile of an article in an American magazine, but it was really unnecessary.

In this particular space project, China is not known for getting any help from any country, therefore, "walking on a path that's been paved" is a long stretch, an illogical one.

You may not be able to see alien life in your life time, but I am sure you will live to see some space projects pioneered by China, eg, quantum communication satellite scheduled to launch this year.

 

[Viper0011.]

CHINA'S ANSWER TO THE HUBBLE TELESCOPE

Zhang said that the Chinese space telescope would orbit close to a Chinese space station, likely the Tiangong 3, so that Chinese taikonauts would quickly service any problems, compared to the 3.5 year wait for NASA to correct the Hubble Telescope's mirror problems. The Tiangong 3's two 15-meter-long robotic arms would be very helpful in servicing the space telescope. Using a space station as a permanent support base for a satellite has not yet been tried before; neither Skylab, Mir, nor the ISS had any large satellites close by. To outfit the Tiangong 3 for such a mission, China would need to stockpile supplies of tools and spares to provide for prompt servicing of a space telescope, though new technology such as monitoring nanosatellites could make telescope repairs easier. As China masters this space operational concept, the experience gained could provide a boost to future space projects, such as asteroid mining and the in orbit assembly of manned missions to Mars.

China's Answer To The Hubble Telescope | Popular Science

Well, when NASA was developing this tech, China was building Aluminum foils for her Satellites to increase solar power (instead of using high powered rechargable batteries ). So after 2+ decades after NASA did it, If the Chinese launched a nice telescope (congrats to them), but I'd expect it to be about 1000 times better with today's Microchip technologies.

Remember 25 years ago, we didn't even have Microsoft Office to create MS Word documents, but NASA was building Huble!!!! And now, tech has gone commercial in the entire globe. So I don't know why its only 10 times better, it should've been 1000 times better. A simple example, your home laptop today, runs 500% faster and can do 1000% more operations every second than the big tower desktops 25 years ago!!!!

I would be very surprise to see NASA launch a Telescope into the orbit again. With the current tech in today's age, you can see everything from the planet earth. Thanks to modern tech advancements

 

[C130]

Your emotion is there for everyone to see. Just don't understand why you have to. Considering your status as TTA, it was not a nice showing. Insecurity, anxiety?




China never claims it is in race with any country in any field. They understand they are the new comer in many fields, so they are just playing catch-up according to their own plans. Some people got upset with the tile of an article in an American magazine, but it was really unnecessary.

In this particular space project, China is not known for getting any help from any country, therefore, "walking on a path that's been paved" is a long stretch, an illogical one.

You may not be able to see alien life in your life time, but I am sure you will live to see some space projects pioneered by China, eg, quantum communication satellite scheduled to launch this year.

all I mean is China needs to be trailblazing in the field of astronomy and planetary science.

 

[jhungary]

You made it into something else. You made the comment about the title, then defended your stance by saying the US didn't call it the answer.

China didn't call it the answer either, this is an American article, written by Americans, we have to take heat for what you write. Sounds convincing.

In this case, are you willing to bet your life nobody called the American mission the answer to the USSR mission during that time.

This is not an American article, nor written by an American.........

The article is written by Jeffery Lin and most of his article is in Chinese, nor does he actually worked for Australian Popular Science magazine. In fact, his article was pulled by PopSci in Australia as the link is not valid.

This is How an American written in American Magazine regarding the same topic.

China's Telescope Could Rival Hubble and James Webb

Great, then I'l file a complaint with popular science. Meanwhile, the comparison with Gagarin and the Moon missions remains flawed and irrelevant. The USSR proceeded to stretch the limits of their single-pilot Vostok capsule into a two- or three-person Voshkod capsule to compete with Gemini. Voskhod did not have Gemini's capability to maneuver in orbit, and the program was terminated. The US Gemini flights did not accomplish the first spacewalk, but overcame the early Soviet lead by performing several spacewalks and solving the problem of astronaut fatigue caused by overcoming the lack of gravity, demonstrating up to two weeks endurance in a human spaceflight, and the first space rendezvous and dockings of spacecraft.

There was a space race, there is no telescope race.

G'day. (don't cry)

You probably don't need to file a complaint, they have already pulled the article.

Your emotion is there for everyone to see. Just don't understand why you have to. Considering your status as TTA, it was not a nice showing. Insecurity, anxiety?




China never claims it is in race with any country in any field. They understand they are the new comer in many fields, so they are just playing catch-up according to their own plans. Some people got upset with the tile of an article in an American magazine, but it was really unnecessary.

In this particular space project, China is not known for getting any help from any country, therefore, "walking on a path that's been paved" is a long stretch, an illogical one.

You may not be able to see alien life in your life time, but I am sure you will live to see some space projects pioneered by China, eg, quantum communication satellite scheduled to launch this year.

First of all, that was not an "American" Magazine, that was Australian Popular Science. And they allow anyone to write an article and submitted (You can write one and posted to popsci.com.au too if you wish) but the editor of the website have the final say on what to publish. like this one, was pulled from the website almost immediately after it was published.

Also, the author is not American, the Author of that article is a Chinese, where he posted most of his article in Chinese (or at least refer to them in Chinese). Most of his article was actually pulled by the editor after he published it.

And finally, Canada too is launching (or rather hoping to launch) their quantum communication satellite in 2016. as IEEE stated, but nobody actually care about them, I don't think anyone in PDF knows the Canadian are doing it too.

Commercial Quantum Cryptography Satellites Coming - IEEE Spectrum

 

[egodoc222]

Well the Hubble has been in orbit for over 25 years (with a bad lens) so I hope it has better resolution.

Yeah but the error is corrected with prescription glasses lol!!
Contribution of Hubble to astrophysics and astronomy is unparalleled...will remain so in distant future!!

 

[Genesis]

This is not an American article, nor written by an American.........

The article is written by Jeffery Lin and most of his article is in Chinese, nor does he actually worked for Australian Popular Science magazine. In fact, his article was pulled by PopSci in Australia as the link is not valid.

This is How an American written in American Magazine regarding the same topic.

China's Telescope Could Rival Hubble and James Webb

You can just google. This is why I don't like to respond to you. All contact info for POP SCI is in the US, NY and Iowa. The two authors of the article PW Singer, and Lin are both based in the US and studied at Harvard and George something university.

Also their wiki page says American. And their web site.

Please never respond to me again. this wasted 5 minutes I could have used for anything else.

You probably don't need to file a complaint, they have already pulled the article.

Still there. In fact first thing that comes up when you google popsci.

 

[BoQ77]

Actually, the rally to space is good for human race, with a condition that it doesn't take big part of annual budget for social benefit.
Read from those article, I learn that:
China schedule:
- Already Launched Tiangong-1, similar to monolith Salyut-1 space station ( Jan 1971 ) to space
- Next China would quickly launch Tiangong-2
- Then China would continue to launch Tiangong-3 ( on or about 2022 ) and the Chinese made telescope ( rival to Hubble telescope 1990 ) on or about 2030.
The idea is put the telescope next to the Tiangong-3 in order to improve the ability to fix it ( lesson learn from Hubble trouble )

Actually, if the schedule is exact, that space telescope would fall behind James Webb telescope ( planned 2018 ) 12 years.

Anyway, the schedule could be shorten, or there'll be other programs from other countries and USA, China themselves during 2018-2030.

Good luck to keep the schedule !!! It's great.

 

[Dungeness]

all I mean is China needs to be trailblazing in the field of astronomy and planetary science.

I agree. China should have more contributions to the mankind. Being a developing country, they do have their priorities though. The security concerns and practical applications would be on top of their list.

They are starting to exploring the astronomy applications, the moon landing on far side of moon scheduled for 2019 would be qualified as one. They also have a list of pure scientific research satellites line up, including gravity wave satellites etc. Their full blown space station is coming up in 2020, let's wait and see.

They are late, but they are moving.