China will lose moral authority if it colludes with Pakistan: Air Chief

[Andhadhun]

last i checked, Pakistan won the air battle that day and the whole world saw it.

The world does not care and what it sees it forgets the next day.

For those who matter, they all know what really happened.

 

[313ghazi]

Modi's henchmen talk all day about a two front war to help distract from their governments failures. There is no such threat. Unfortunately Pakistan and China are missing an opportunity here.

Article 370 and the Ladakh conflict are both excellent opportunities to grab territory whilst the Indian military is weak and overstretched.

In reality though;

• there is no Sino-Pak military coordination,
• govts of both countries would prefer to spend on development, not on war
• China knows it can claw away land bit by bit and the Indians can't do anything
• China is not willing to overcommit into a scenario where the biggest winner would be Pakistan (understandibly)
• Pakistan does not want to go to war if it can help it because it's not economically prepared for it, nor does it have an overwhelming edge

So yes there is a slight opporunity lost, but in reality this is a scenario that will likely never happen, for very good reason and sense.

The Indian military is just hyping it, do help distract from domestic policy failures of their facist government.

The world does not care and what it sees it forgets the next day.

For those who matter, they all know what really happened.

11 dead soliders, 1 captured pilot, 1 Mig-21, 1 Helicopter, and likely a SU-30 MKI too.

 

[Areesh]

You are asking the wrong person. You should ask the Government of pakistan who issued this Government stamp to "awaken the world's conscience".

As per our record it was 93,000 POW.

90000 includes families of west pakistani officers, their servants and other civilians

at max only 45000 were armed combatants

The year is 2021 and we expect you pajeets despite the fact that you are a low IQ pajeet to not spew such lies like 90000 soldiers

 

[Indus Pakistan]

China will lose moral authority

They did not have it in the first place to lose. Nations don't have morals but have "interests". Go get a education Gangu.

s per our record it was 93,000 POW.

It should have been 103,000. They forgot to add pet dogs, cats and a parrot. The actual uniformed West Pakistani strenght was 55k including army, paramilitary and police units. Rest were civilian officials, familes, children etc.

 

[PakistaniAtBahrain]

The world does not care and what it sees it forgets the next day.

For those who matter, they all know what really happened.

we do know. one confirmed Indian jet downed, one Indian helicopter downed by Indians themselves because they were shitting their pants, one Indian pilot captured and returned.

 

[Raja Porus]

You understand the context right ?

" As a combat power, if you need another country to even threaten some country you have given away your weakness. "

I think he said "moral victory" which the press translated as "moral authority".

Real politick, have you ever heard about it?

 

[ziaulislam]

You are asking the wrong person. You should ask the Government of pakistan who issued this Government stamp to "awaken the world's conscience".

As per our record it was 93,000 POW.

When was that 50 years ago?
And where

In an indian alley state?

This is 2021

 

[siegecrossbow]

Guess the Indians have never heard of the phrase “all is fair in love and war”.

 

[masterchief_mirza]

Is he basically saying to China that siding with Pakistan against India is "against the spirit of the game"?

Lolz! Whadda cry baby. Pakistan or China alone can deal with Hindustan....once the Sikhs are finished with them.

 

[Baibars_1260]

There is NO Morality in any War. So the question of "moral authority" does not arise.
War by its very nature is an immoral act.

Tell that to your Air Warrior Air Chief ...

Besides since the borders are not demarcated, there is no question of anyone having any moral authority. The Borders were held by loose agreements and confidence building measures, backed by military strength, logistical ability and infrastructure availability.

No, the borders have been demarcated by the claims , and victory of the country that won
the war. Unless the victory of that war is reversed, the borders will
stay demarcated whether your nation likes it or not .

By those real standards, china had more authority while we hid behind "agreements" which is now worthless

There never were agreements except in 1993 when "differences in perception of the LAC were acknowledged" with a "no firearms" use.

When China saw us build our border infra, they moved to consolidate their position for future negotiations. This time based on a more realistic ground realities not some vague "moral authority and claims".

Correct...Whoever carries the bigger stick wins unless the other side is not afraid and willing to die and not budge an inch. At the Battle of Stalingrad when the Soviet Red Army got the order "not one step back" they obeyed orders at the cost of 1.29 million killed vs 800,000 enemy killed. They were not "counting bodies" , as they had no Arnab Goswami to fudge the news for them. There was no news of how many killed over the 5 month long battle. The funerals would come later. What was important was driving the enemy out, and taking back the land . Any army with "nuts" will do this . The USA fought a bitter battle with the Japanese in the re-capture of the Aleutian Islands which was US territoy.
Neither the Soviet Union nor the USA signed a "no firearms use " with Germany or Japan over their territory captured. They chased the enemies into their own nations, permanently ending the threat.

China did the same move we did on siachen glacier.
SO now India china relationship is in the same position pakistan India relationship is in. We are closer to a real solution , only the solution will be political suicide.

Solution? You mean the solution with the "no firearms use" and banning of Apps? Wonder why the Soviet Union with 1/3 of it agricultural and industrial capacity lost to Germany in 1941 never considered that .
" Hey , Hitler, this is Stalin. I am going to ban your apps, and will still not shoot you if you come with spiked clubs"

The longer we delay the settlement, the further we will be pushed towards the US, a replica of what happened to pakistan. And that will be bad for both India and china

Why is it bad for India ? You can be pushed all the way into the US lap. What else can happen?
The USA will issue a few more H1 visas for your techies for cheap clerical labor and sell you more weapons. The 101st Airborne is not coming to Ladakh anytime soon. The USA is not interested in rocks, ice and snow. It is concerned about the SCS but if Indians die fighting for rocks and ice to distract China, that's another "outsourcing " the USA would love to fund. Given the fact that India refused an "outsourcing " job for Afghanistan, the USA is not that confident India will measure up. Still a few billion in arms sales is always welcome.

Its bad for China in the short term and its bad for India in the long term.

China is pretty comfortable sitting where it is and concentrating on CPEC. It will get " bad " for China if the average Indian dumps his laptop, backpack and I-phone , and picks up a rifle and says like the Soviet Red Army "not a step back" .
If average Indians ( not the Doornob Cowswamys) decide to take back their territory and die by the millions it will be bad for China. Just as it was bad for the Armenians or Georgians.
As long as Indians are looking for alternatives to Tik Tok the Chinese are happy.
There was no Tik Tok in Stalingrad.

 

[Baibars_1260]

Funny thing about Indians.
They share the same traits as Egyptians.
The Egyptian never won a battle for 760 years ( since 1260, against a small force of Mongols), and Indians ( according to themselves) win a battle after "1000 years " in 1971. Both battles are celebrated because of being "first" revenge.
Funny Indians (or "Hindus") never look at the Maratha and Sikh wars and the victories there ( perhaps because those empires didn't last, and it wasn't a clear Hindu Muslim definition ). Indians howl about the "Muslim atrocities in the Third Battle of Panipat when in fact 6000 Turkish cannoneers and cavalry ( Gardis) fought alongside the Marathas. The Turks didn't care for Persian military power either.
But Indian " Hindus " are fixated on the Pakistani 1971 Civil War. The fact that the Indian Armed Forces withdrew ( in 60 days) from the resulting rump entity left behind is never mentioned. What is never mentioned is that the rump entity had been Indian territory just 24 years earlier and should have been annexed and integrated back into India but wasn't, 50 years later India is facing a dual catastrophe of illegal infiltration, and demographic invasion change in a restive region because of this rump entity. Intervention in the Civil War did nothing to advance India's interests:
1. It's North Eastern dog leg states remained isolated bereft of a secure, rail and road access as well as a port.

2. India's "occupied " territories "Azad Kashmir", and "Aksai Chin", remained occupied.

3. India is the only nation in the world to have two hostile nuclear powers posing a dual nuclear and missile threat right on its border.
India has fought wars with both these powers and failed to recover territory or eliminate the threat of mutual nuclear annihilation.

Comparing India with Egypt, I would say Egypt did far better. At least after the war in 1973 it recovered it's Sinai territory, and also secured its control over the Suez canal. It also walloped Libya into shape.
So basically after 1260 the Egyptians have something to look up to which is why they proudly named their modern second capital across the Nile 10th October.
Indians haven't named any city 16 December ... yet.

 

[GumNaam]

China will lose moral authority if it colludes with Pakistan: Air Chief
Dinakar Peri
BENGALURU, FEBRUARY 05, 2021 12:24 IST

Air Chief Marshal Rakesh Kumar Singh Bhadauria. File


Falling fighter squadron of Indian Air Force has been arrested, says Air Chief Marshal R.K.S. Bhadauria.

China would lose moral authority if it colluded with Pakistan to target India, said Chief of Air Staff Air Chief Marshal (ACM) R.K.S. Bhadauria on February 5 while stating he did not see China getting into a collusive kind of arrangement in a conflict situation to start with.

On the falling fighter squadron strength of the Indian Air Force (IAF), he said the fall had been arrested and it can now only go up.

“To my mind if they [China] start a collusive plan they would have lost the moral authority there itself. As a combat power, if you need another country to even threaten some country you have given away your weakness. We need to be prepared. There are situations where it can happen. But to say that we will start with a collusive threat, I don’t see it especially with China,” ACM Bhadauria said in an interview to The Hindu at the ongoing Aero India.

The collusive threat would be in the background, he stated in electronics, support, their (Pakistan’s) knowledge of tactics on the Western side and whatever they learnt from the U.S.


Asked about the current standoff situation with China in Eastern Ladakh, ACM Bhadauria called it “stalemate status quo” and said the situation in the summer would depend on how the talks went. “We should lay a lot of emphasis on the talks. The last round [of talks] was quite ok,” he said. In case an agreement was not reached and the current deployments continued, then as winter ended an element of higher level of alertness would be required. “It really depends on the ground realities.”


Fighter squadrons will go up
On the fighter squadrons of the IAF, ACM Bhadauria said the order for 83 Light Combat Aircraft (LCA) being awarded to the Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL) early this week at the Aero India and aircraft deliveries beginning early 2024 would ensure that the numbers would keep going up.

The first LCA MK-1A squadron will be made in 2024 and would be operationalised in a year after that.

While the phasing out of the MIG-21s has caused a dip in squadron strength, last year the IAF constituted the first Rafale squadron and so far inducted 11 jets. Another SU-30MKI squadron was also formed last year as also the second LCA squadron. Following these developments, he said, “Now we don’t see the numbers going down, They will only go up.”

China will lose moral authority if it colludes with Pakistan: Air Chief

Falling fighter squadron of Indian Air Force has been arrested, says Air Chief Marshal R.K.S. Bhadauria.

www.thehindu.com

this guy is an "air chief"??? what the hell is he even on about? I mean seriously? "moral ground"??? since when did air combat become a debate of who has the "high moral ground"?!?!?!?! what a retarded monkey!

 

[Baibars_1260]

90000 includes families of west pakistani officers, their servants and other civilians

at max only 45000 were armed combatants

The year is 2021 and we expect you pajeets despite the fact that you are a low IQ pajeet to not spew such lies like 90000 soldiers

@Andhadhun

Every victorious nation frees its own prisoners from the defeated nation. If India took 90,000 POWs then why didn't it force Pakistan to release all the Indian POWs in Pakistani jails. Why weep 50 years later?

1971 Prisoners of War: Why 54 Indian soldiers are still languishing in Pak jails

There are at least 54 Indian Prisoners of War (PoW), out of which some are seriously ill and some have lost mental balance or even died under mysterious circumstances, according to army veterans who spoke to India Today TV.

www.indiatoday.in

 

[Irfan Baloch]

China will lose moral authority if it colludes with Pakistan: Air Chief
Dinakar Peri
BENGALURU, FEBRUARY 05, 2021 12:24 IST

Air Chief Marshal Rakesh Kumar Singh Bhadauria. File


Falling fighter squadron of Indian Air Force has been arrested, says Air Chief Marshal R.K.S. Bhadauria.

China would lose moral authority if it colluded with Pakistan to target India, said Chief of Air Staff Air Chief Marshal (ACM) R.K.S. Bhadauria on February 5 while stating he did not see China getting into a collusive kind of arrangement in a conflict situation to start with.

On the falling fighter squadron strength of the Indian Air Force (IAF), he said the fall had been arrested and it can now only go up.

“To my mind if they [China] start a collusive plan they would have lost the moral authority there itself. As a combat power, if you need another country to even threaten some country you have given away your weakness. We need to be prepared. There are situations where it can happen. But to say that we will start with a collusive threat, I don’t see it especially with China,” ACM Bhadauria said in an interview to The Hindu at the ongoing Aero India.

The collusive threat would be in the background, he stated in electronics, support, their (Pakistan’s) knowledge of tactics on the Western side and whatever they learnt from the U.S.


Asked about the current standoff situation with China in Eastern Ladakh, ACM Bhadauria called it “stalemate status quo” and said the situation in the summer would depend on how the talks went. “We should lay a lot of emphasis on the talks. The last round [of talks] was quite ok,” he said. In case an agreement was not reached and the current deployments continued, then as winter ended an element of higher level of alertness would be required. “It really depends on the ground realities.”


Fighter squadrons will go up
On the fighter squadrons of the IAF, ACM Bhadauria said the order for 83 Light Combat Aircraft (LCA) being awarded to the Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL) early this week at the Aero India and aircraft deliveries beginning early 2024 would ensure that the numbers would keep going up.

The first LCA MK-1A squadron will be made in 2024 and would be operationalised in a year after that.

While the phasing out of the MIG-21s has caused a dip in squadron strength, last year the IAF constituted the first Rafale squadron and so far inducted 11 jets. Another SU-30MKI squadron was also formed last year as also the second LCA squadron. Following these developments, he said, “Now we don’t see the numbers going down, They will only go up.”

China will lose moral authority if it colludes with Pakistan: Air Chief

Falling fighter squadron of Indian Air Force has been arrested, says Air Chief Marshal R.K.S. Bhadauria.

www.thehindu.com

China will definately loose moral authority when it will shoot down the Indian jets and will send the IAF pilots to labour camp instead of serving them tea.

 

[newb3e]

The world does not care and what it sees it forgets the next day.

For those who matter, they all know what really happened.

wow! thats some logical vedic bs!

world forgets the next day after Pakistan kicked yindoo boys arse but remeber jeenewjs fakeNewj!