China Will help Pakistan In developing ICBM

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

OK

You chose to ignore the real question though, why does Pak need an ICBM?

OKAY, We are going to make sure that NO NATION on earth can do to us what they did to Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya and Syria. Even though they are desperate to do so but we'll make sure the cost of which will be unacceptable to our enemies and ALL POTENTIAL ones too.

Take a cue, the world has not even come to terms with our nuclear weapons capability. If we test an ICBM it would cause a global uproar not seen since the Cuban Missile Crisis. We have had ICBM capability for a LONG time now. We just havn't tested it yet. If and when the need arises we will.

 

[JazbaatiHindustaani]

OKAY, We are going to make sure that NO NATION on earth can do to us what they did to Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya and Syria. Even though they are desperate to do so but we'll make sure the cost of which will be unacceptable to our enemies and ALL POTENTIAL ones too.

Take a cue, the world has not even come to terms with our nuclear weapons capability. If we test an ICBM it would cause a global uproar not seen since the Cuban Missile Crisis. We have had ICBM capability for a LONG time now. We just havn't tested it yet. If and when the need arises we will.

Well the world has come to terms with a nuclear capable Pakistan which is why they show concern from time to time of it falling into wrong hands.

I don't think its in your best interest to alarm the world further by showing you have ICBM capability.

 

[NakedLunch]

OKAY, We are going to make sure that NO NATION on earth can do to us what they did to Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya and Syria. Even though they are desperate to do so but we'll make sure the cost of which will be unacceptable to our enemies and ALL POTENTIAL ones too.

Take a cue, the world has not even come to terms with our nuclear weapons capability. If we test an ICBM it would cause a global uproar not seen since the Cuban Missile Crisis. We have had ICBM capability for a LONG time now. We just havn't tested it yet. If and when the need arises we will.

If Pakistan tested an ICBM the following countries will quickly develop diarrhoea:

(1) Oy Vey!
(2) Merika merika!
(3) Oh pleej vy u are making nukies, hai ram jee ki.....

We have had the capacity to develop ICBM's since Israel attacked Osirak. Our planners weren't stupid and neither were our friends. What happened after that? The aborted Israeli attempt on Kahuta? That's when China provided us the tech to build a basic ICBM. It has evolved a lot since then. We already have them. No need to test them, they work. China has tested our nukes and missiles for us in the past.
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[PAKISTANFOREVER]

Well the world has come to terms with a nuclear capable Pakistan which is why they show concern from time to time of it falling into wrong hands.

I don't think its in your best interest to alarm the world further by showing you have ICBM capability.

Your last paragraph is EXACTLY what the world said about Pakistan becoming a nuclear weapons state in the 1st place.

If Pakistan tested an ICBM the following countries will quickly develop diarrhoea:

(1) Oy Vey!
(2) Merika merika!
(3) Oh pleej vy u are making nukies, hai ram jee ki.....

We have had the capacity to develop ICBM's since Israel attacked Osirak. Our planners weren't stupid and neither were our friends. What happened after that? The aborted Israeli attempt on Kahuta? That's when China provided us the tech to build a basic ICBM. It has evolved a lot since then. We already have them. No need to test them, they work. China has tested our nukes and missiles for us in the past.
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In complete agreement with you. We have had the capability for a few decades now. If and when the need arises we will test and show case it to the world.

 

[NakedLunch]

In complete agreement with you. We have had the capability for a few decades now. If and when the need arises we will test and show case it to the world.

Our military planners are not stupid. We have some very level headed and smart people. Pakistan is in an existentialist face-off with India and Zionism. This will last until an Indian generation grows up without the Akhand Bharat delusion. That may or may not happen. For that reason Pakistan has developed its own version of Israel's Samson Option. If we go down, the world will goes down with us. Ask any American, Indian or Israeli, why was Pakistan spared after Bin Laden was killed in Abbotabad? After Af-Pak why was Pakistan left off the hook? Why didn't America/West make an example out of Pakistan? They killed America's most wanted in Pakistan and Pakistan got away with it? LOL! There can only be the following reasons:

(1) Bin Laden was NOT killed in Pakistan, America made a bollywood movie.
(2) Pakistan has so much firepower that even though America's greatest enemy was killed in Pakistan everyone just walked away from it.
(3) China told the world to leave Pakistan alone or else expect worldwide Armageddon.

Why was Pakistan spared? Maybe we can hit world capitals all over the globe? Maybe Bin Laden was a CIA/Mossad asset maybe Pakistan was not even the place where Bin Laden was killed and we did the State Dept a favour and accepted it for a future favour? The question is, why were we spared?

 

[IceCold]

Even US doesn't want Pakistan out of context...and no sir if we go by 0.1% chance then every country in the world needs to have ICBM's....And it is a myth that only ICBM's are good enough....If your threat perception includes US then you need hell lot of military toys then mere ICBM's.....from Indian POV a Pakistani ICBM is a good tool to show the world that now even they are in range of Pakistani nukes....so as far as are concerned we would love to see that happening...however strategist in Pakistan are not fools...so i will say it is a wishful thinking...

USA has them, Europe has it, Russia, China, Israel even India has it. That pretty much covers the whole world if we look at the list of the countries that actually matter. Rest of the countries are either too insignificant or safe from any conflict what so ever or have monarchy that are in bed with US and Israel. Pakistan is neither insignificant due to our location nor safe from a conflict again due to our location.
Nobody is saying that ICBM alone are enough but that does not mean they do not give a credible deterrence either? Taking example of India Pakistan nuclear weapons and the fact that both can hit each other have in fact stabilize the region and lower the chance of a conflict despite of what hawks say. Pakistan can never dream to match US conventionally, but having a deterrence like an ICBM will keep the other party thinking whether to go ahead and attack and risk a nuclear retaliation or not. Why do you think India has brought China into its range if not for the exact same reasons that i am arguing above?
China during Clinton's time was not as advanced militarily as it is today so when US sent its carrier to threaten China over Taiwan do you know what made the US backed down? Chinese threat of nuclear retaliation if US intervened. Google it if you want.
As for the highlighted part Isnt the world in India's missile range as of now? What will India achieve exactly from showing the world when its own missiles covers the exact same? Also do you really believe that any country will need India to tell them that Pakistan can hit them?
Strategist in Pakistan are not fools, precisely why i think sooner or latter this will happen. Some people are also of the opinion that the stated ranges of Pakistani missiles are down played on purpose where as in reality they have higher ranges than stated. But whatever maybe Pakistan needs two things, one we are already working on that is a 2nd strike capability and 2 an ICBM if push comes to shove. Besides an ICBM will help us in SLV project.

 

[Cookie Monster]

OK

You chose to ignore the real question though, why does Pak need an ICBM?

For Pak ICBM is more important in terms of MIRV capability rather than range. Pak doesn't really need that much range as offered by an ICBM but MIRV capability will become a must as India acquires more and more advanced SAMS(in numbers). Only cruise missiles and MIRV capable missiles can achieve a relatively high kill probability in a highly defended(like multilayered SAMS) environment and cruise missiles have limited ranges, so that leaves the only other option of MIRV.

 

[xyxmt]

China is bluntly violating international non proliferation laws...and that too by saying it publicly.

So does US, if you can you will

 

[graphican]

With recent developments, India should forget getting any favors from China on NSG or Security Council. Good for India I guess.

 

[EpiiC]

OK

You chose to ignore the real question though, why does Pak need an ICBM?

SLBM/SSBN? For detterence and power projection!!!

Why does Pakistan need an ICBM though? It can already target all of India.

Also if Pakistan develops one, it will bring unwarranted attention to their nuclear program from the countries that will be in their ICBM's range. Just to compete with India, Pakistan will shoot itself in the foot.

Also if this move is to scare India, lol this hardly affects India because a) India's S400 missile air defense system will checkmate Pakistani missiles b) Pakistan already have whole of India covered with their current missile program. So who is this ICBM going to deter?

No the s400 ain't even that good and its old now.... Even the Arrow 2 is better than S400..... S400 Just has range but good interceptors need speed and altitude...... s400 is too slow....

 

[Surya 1]

But Pakistan already have the technology of ICBM of 9000 KM +. This discussed here on this forum in number of pages. What else china is going to help? Chna will help pakistan to develop 15000 KM missiles?

 

[EpiiC]

But Pakistan already have the technology of ICBM of 9000 KM +. This discussed here on this forum in number of pages. What else china is going to help? Chna will help pakistan to develop 15000 KM missiles?

15,000km Missiles for power projection and land based..... First Pakistan need SSBN which is best detterent which Pak don't have.....

 

[mqur1963]

Hindu Kush remember Indian

 

[Verve]

When it comes from the communist party mouthpiece, it will be taken seriously. Any ICBM that China helps Pakistan design will have no security implication on India. This will only ring bells in Europe and US.

You'd be a fool to think that China would sit quietly when India tests ICBMs and West keeps mouth shut.

It can ring all the bells in Europe and US, it doesn't matter anymore to Pakistan.

 

[AAhadSSG]

If China help Pakistan to make a ICBM so for sure Pakistan will be strong enough to defeat any enemy who come in front of him. From this Pakistan have a good opportunity to improve himself in all the field and tactics.