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do you have the money and ability to do that,how big is your defence budget and how big is your shipbuilding industry?


Money to do what? we already doing it lol can you not see the map? we have a base there already your commercial ships must pass it to get to China.

China has a bigger rival to worry about in USA we just have to worry about you

BTW if you try to use submarines in the Indian Ocean you will be met with P8 sub hunter
 
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Increasing the number of warships based in the Andaman and Nicobar Command, Admiral Nirmal Verma said Port Blair will be home to amphibious platforms, Naval Offshore Patrol Vessels and Fast Attack Craft.


you never have the ability to comete against Chinese navy,not now,far unlikely in the future.

U.S. Navy Take Notice: China is Becoming a World-Class Military Shipbuilder
November 01, 2012

The engine of China's naval rise has flown under the radar - until now.

China’s military shipyards now are surpassing Western European, Japanese, and Korean military shipbuilders in terms of both the types and numbers of ships they can build. If Beijing prioritizes progress, China’s military shipbuilding technical capabilities can likely become as good as Russia’s are now by 2020 and will near current U.S. shipbuilding technical proficiency levels by 2030. China is now mass producing at least six classes of modern diesel-electric submarines and surface warships, including the new Type 052C “Luyang II” and Type 052D “Luyang III” destroyers now in series production.

Eight key themes, listed sequentially below, characterize China’s rise as a world-class military shipbuilder. For reference, the companies building the warships are China State Shipbuilding Corporation (“CSSC”) and China Shipbuilding Industry Corporation (“CSIC”).

1. China’s warship buildout thus far supports modernization and replacement, not rapid expansion

Over the past six years, China’s overall fleet of frontline combatants has expanded, but slowly, growing from 172 ships in 2005 to an estimated 221 vessels in 2012. However, the fleet has improved substantially in qualitative terms as newer ships and subs replace older ones. For instance, as Type 052 C/D Luyang-series destroyers, Type 054A Jiangkai II-series frigates, and Type 041 Yuan diesel-electric submarines have come into the fleet, they are allowing the People’s Liberation Army Navy (PLAN) to steadily retire obsolete platforms like Luda destroyers and Ming submarines.

2. Chinese military shipbuilders are catching up to Russian and U.S. Yards


China’s large state-backed military shipbuilders are approaching their Russian and U.S. peers in terms of the number of warships built. China’s large submarine and surface warship buildout will, in a decade, likely have it become second only to the U.S. in terms of total warships produced since 1990. More importantly, the ramp-up of China’s construction of large warships in recent years will mean the PLA Navy will likely be taking delivery of larger numbers of modern surface combatants and submarines annually than the U.S. Navy.

Measured in terms of warships commissioned since 1990, China is now number three globally and is rapidly gaining on Russia, the number two country. Most of Russia’s post-1990 military ship deliveries simply reflected yards “finishing up” Soviet-era projects.

Chinese yards, in contrast, have come on strong over the past decade, with a big push in submarine construction that began in 2002-03 and a strong pipeline of surface warship deliveries that continues to gain steam to this very day. Chinese military shipyards—in particular the Changxing Island and Hudong Zhonghua yards near Shanghai—are humming with activity, and over the next 2-3 years, China is likely to commission enough large warships to put it second only to the U.S. in terms of large warships built and delivered since 1990.

3. China’s military shipbuilders are using modular mass production techniques

CSSC’s Jiangnan Shipyard is using modular construction methods to build Type 052-series destroyers. Modular construction involves building the ship in “blocks.” This maximizes a shipyard’s productive potential and also provides greater latitude for modifying designs and customizing ships. Modular construction also gives yards the flexibility to either build centers of expertise within the yard or outsource the production of certain components and then import them to the yard for final assembly.

CSSC’s Hudong Zhonghua shipyard also appears to be using modular construction techniques for the Type 071 LPD. The yard has now constructed four of the vessels, two of which are in service and two of which are in the trial/outfitting stage. They have also been able to fabricate the Type 071 hulls faster, with a time gap of nearly four years between the first and second vessels, but only 10 months between vessels two and three, and four months between vessels three and four.

4. China’s military shipyards appear to be sharing design and production information across company lines

Historically, CSIC built all Chinese submarines, but the current production run of Type 041 Yuan-class advanced diesel electric subs has seen at least two boats being built in CSSC’s Jiangnan yard. This suggests submarine construction expertise is growing outside of CSIC. However, there are no indications thus far that CSSC is doing submarine design work, which could mean that Beijing is making the companies and their design institutes share submarine design and construction information. Likewise, the new Type 056 corvette is being built in both CSSC and CSIC shipyards, suggesting that a standardized design and production approach is being shared by both companies.

5. China’s military shipbuilders will be able to indigenously build aircraft carriers

China’s first aircraft carrier, Liaoning, which entered service on September 25th of this year, started as an empty hull and gave CSIC valuable experience in effectively creating an aircraft carrier from the keel up. China has a total of seven shipyards with sufficiently large berths to assemble a carrier hull (three hundred meters or more), and the yards are basically equally dispersed between CSSC and CSIC. These yards are located in Dalian (CSIC), Qingdao (CSIC), Huludao (CSIC), Shanghai (CSSC), and Guangzhou (CSSC).

CSIC Bohai Shipbuilding Heavy Industry complex near Huludao (where China builds its nuclear submarines) is a top candidate due to its large, covered building sheds where carrier parts could be fabricated in modular fashion and out of the view of satellite surveillance. The company says it has the “largest indoor seven-step” ship construction facilities in China. This facility, together with CSSC’s large new Changxing Island yard, and CSIC’s Dalian yard—which fitted out the carrier Liaoning that just entered PLAN service—are the three leading candidates to build China’s indigenous carriers.

6. China will retain a military shipbuilding cost advantage

We project that for at least the next five years, Chinese shipbuilders will have a substantial labor cost advantage over their counterparts in South Korea, Japan, and the U.S. CSSC’s Jiangnan shipyard can likely deliver a Type 052C destroyer for 24% less than it costs Korea’s Hyundai heavy Industries to produce a KDX-III destroyer. Likewise, according to disclosures in the July 2011 issue of Shipborne Weapons, Wuchang shipyard can produce a late model diesel electric sub such as the Type 041 for roughly 47% less than it would cost South Korea’s DSME to make a Type 209 submarine. The lower labor cost in China likely serves as a core driver. This may help explain the larger Chinese cost advantage in building submarines, since advanced submarines can require substantially larger number of man-hours to build than surface ships do.

7. China’s neighbors feel increasingly compelled to augment their naval forces in response to Chinese warship production

South Korea has decided to expand its procurement of advanced diesel-electric submarines to include nine KSS-III 3,000-ton submarines by 2020 and nine 1,800-ton subs by 2018. This acquisition will basically double the size of the country’s current sub force and substantially enhance its capabilities, since the biggest boats in the fleet are currently 1,800-ton vessels. South Korea has also elected to double its Aegis destroyer purchases over the next decade.

Similarly, Vietnam’s maritime friction with China and fear of the PLAN’s growing power is making Hanoi into one of the Russian defense industry’s star customers. Vietnam has ordered six Kilo-class diesel submarines from Russia and is likely to take delivery of its first Kilo by the end of 2012. Hanoi is also adding advanced Russian anti-ship missiles and stealthy Gepard-class missile armed patrol boats to its naval force.

8. China now has the potential to become a significant exporter of diesel submarines and smaller surface warships

China’s shipbuilders are becoming increasingly competitive in terms of the ratio of cost to combat power they can deliver. For instance, the July 2011 issue of Shipborne Weapons reports that China will supply 6 potentially Air-Independent Propulsion (AIP)-equipped submarines to Pakistan for as little as 1/3 the unit price at which European shipyards would be able to supply comparable boats.

With the advent of the Type 041 Yuan-class diesel sub and Type 056 corvette, China now has two platforms for which it is already capable of series production and for which the unit costs are likely to drop significantly in coming years. The export version of Russia’s Steregushiy-class corvette, called Tigr, currently stands at around U.S. $150 million per vessel. As China’s Type 056 production run continues to expand, it would not be a surprise to eventually see the PLAN’s unit cost end up in the U.S. $110-120 million per vessel cost range, which would make the Type 056 a serious export competitor to the Tigr and other smaller Russian warships.

Conclusion

China’s naval shipbuilding industry has advanced to the point that it can series produce modern diesel submarines, landing platform docks (LPDs), destroyers, frigates, corvettes, and fast attack craft, albeit with some imported components for a number of key systems. The ongoing series production of Type 041 SSKs, Type 071 LPDs, Type 052 destroyers, and Type 056 corvettes strongly suggests that China’s military shipbuilders have rapidly assimilated commercial innovations such as modular construction.
 
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With all due respect , India and China have their own , other major issues to worry about. China has multiple enemies on its Eastern front and India has a major enemy to its West.

Apart from that , there are internal issues. There won't be a war between India and China, both countries have their hands full with other more urgent problems.
 
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Yes your defence budget is higher and you have quantity but we have quality you guys do not have weapons like P8, EL/M-2075 Phalcon AWACS which you guys wanted but USA stopped Israel selling you it.



For us it is very simple we just make sure the Indian ocean stays Indian it is our backyard and you guys must pass through it.
 
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For us it is very simple we just make sure the Indian ocean stays Indian it is our backyard and you guys must pass through it.

we have better weapons both in number and quality and the gap is still widenning every passing day which makes you impossible to close up,Indian oceas is yours?why haven't seen you do anything to show that claim?

India no match for China: Navy chief
Rahul Singh, Hindustan Times
 
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we have better weapons both in number and quality and the gap is still widenning every passing day which makes you impossible to close up,Indian oceas is yours?why haven't seen you do anything to show that claim?


Sorry you guys do not have such weapons like we do you have a submarine hunter like P8? nope. The reason it is our backyard is because of the location we have strategic bases located there and you are far away your ships must pass our bases and so we have upper hand in the Indian Ocean.
 
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Sorry you guys do not have such weapons like we do you have a submarine hunter like P8? nope. The reason it is our backyard is because of the location we have strategic bases located there and you are far away your ships must pass our bases and so we have upper hand in the Indian Ocean.

go to check your arsenal inventory,many categories listed zero,a country can not even build their own weapons,how pathetic,you don't have the money nor technology nor manufacturing industry nor infrastructure to compete with us.with GPD size of a fraction of ours and foreign reserves just minicule,there's really nothing you can about your military.
 
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Sorry you guys do not have such weapons like we do you have a submarine hunter like P8? nope. The reason it is our backyard is because of the location we have strategic bases located there and you are far away your ships must pass our bases and so we have upper hand in the Indian Ocean.

you are representing the retardation and grand delusion of south side``indian quality weapons?``:D
more like Russians, Europeans and U.S treating you like clueless kid over hyping their down-graded stuffs sold to you with discriminating prices``

ONLY one Word...Kiss My ***.....


You can Scare Coutries Like Phillipines not US (India)

Now Run-along and make some "Chicken Munchurian" for Me.

now we are like to make 'curry chickens'````they 'taste' funny and 'look' funny too
 
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India is in strategic position in Indian ocean. The new base which is being constructed in Andaman and Nicobar Islands is Huge and thousands of marines will be stationed there.

India do not need advanced weapons, Since the Islands are itself like floating carriers.

P8 and Phalcon are adavnced weapons with US and Israeli techs.
 
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go to check your arsenal inventory,many categories listed zero,a country can not even build their own weapons,how pathetic,you don't have the money nor technology nor manufacturing industry nor infrastructure to compete with us.with GPD size of a fraction of ours and foreign reserves just minicule,there's really nothing you can about your military.

As long as we able to give a bloody nose to our enemies for any misadventure, it works fine for us...:agree:

Go home n sleep tight u have done enough work for today kid....:lol:
 
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I relpied relevent questions with facts and figures quoted from international experts sources,but no one would but to ignore self claimed baseless jokes.

u'll come to know when PLA grows enough balls its no more 1962 where u guys send 10 times more troops to attack wooden stick carrying soldiers....:)

in 1962 your "foward Policy'emboldened soldiers carried wooden sticks...?have to admit that's news to me...

The Forward Policy

According to James Barnard Calvin of the U.S. Navy, in 1959, India started sending Indian troops and border patrols into disputed areas. This program created both skirmishes and deteriorating relations between India and China.[8] The aim of this policy was to create outposts behind advancing Chinese troops to interdict their supplies, forcing them north of the disputed line.[8][24][27][30] There were eventually 60 such outposts, including 43 north of the McMahon Line, to which India claimed sovereignty.[8][13] China viewed this as further confirmation of Indian expansionist plans directed towards Tibet. According to the Indian official history, implementation of the Forward Policy was intended to provide evidence of Indian occupation in the previously unoccupied region through which Chinese troops had been patrolling. Kaul was confident, through contact with Indian Intelligence and CIA information, that China would not react with force.[17] Indeed, at first the PLA simply withdrew, but eventually Chinese forces began to counter-encircle the Indian positions which clearly encroached into the north of McMahon Line. This led to a tit-for-tat Indian reaction, with each force attempting to outmanoeuver the other. However, despite the escalating nature of the dispute, the two forces withheld from engaging each other directly.[2]

Chinese attention was diverted for a time by the military activity of the Nationalists on Taiwan, but on 23 June the U.S. assured China that a Nationalist invasion would not be permitted.[31] China's heavy artillery facing Taiwan could then be moved to Tibet.[32] It took China six to eight months to gather the resources needed for the war, according to Anil Athale, author of the official Indian history.[32] The Chinese sent a large quantity of non-military supplies to Tibet through the Indian port of Calcutta.[32]
 
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I relpied relevent questions with facts and figures quoted from international experts sources,but no one would but to ignore self claimed baseless jokes.



in 1962 your "foward Policy'emboldened soldiers carried wooden sticks...?have to admit that's news to me...

Mr Han - You are Factualy Incorrect and Trolling. What is Your POINT ??
 
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