China-wary Army for mountain strike corps

[haidian]

China-wary Army for mountain strike corps
By Rajat Pandit, TNN | Jan 13, 2013, 03.28 AM IST

NEW DELHI: The Army has come up with a fresh proposal for the new mountain strike corps, apart from two "independent" infantry brigades and two "independent" armoured brigades, to plug operational gaps along the LAC (line of actual control) as well as to acquire "some offensive capabilities" against China.

The raising of the new formations will cost around Rs 81,000 crore, spread primarily over the 12th Plan period (2012-17), with a little spillover into the 13th Plan if necessary, say sources.

"The approved 12th Army Plan, as part of the LTIPP (long-term integrated perspective plan), already ca-ters Rs 62,000 crore for the corps. The Army is now asking for another Rs 19,000 crore," said a source.

With additional armoured regiments and infantry units based in Ladakh, Sikkim and Uttarakhand, the new mountain corps (around 40,000 soldiers) will for the first time give India the capability to also launch a counter-offensive into TAR (Tibet Autonomous Region) in the event of a Chinese attack, say sources.

As with the development of the over 5,000-km Agni-V and 3,500-km Agni-IV ballistic missiles — coupled with the ongoing progressive deployment of Sukhoi-30MKI fighters, spy drones, helicopters and missile squadrons in the northeast — the overall aim is to have "strategic deterrence" in place to dissuade China from embarking on any "misadventure".

The proposal for the new corps — recently approved by the CoSC (chiefs of staff committee) comprising the Army, Navy and IAF chiefs — will of course have to be get the final nod from the CCS (Cabinet Committee on Security) after requisite wetting by the defence and finance ministries for it to be implemented. The plan to raise a new mountain corps, headquartered at Panagarh in West Bengal, is not new. Last year, the government had referred it to the CoSC for a rethink and fine-tuning, which has now been completed.

As part of the overall plan for "major force accretion" along the "northern borders" with China, two new infantry divisions (35,000 soldiers and 1,260 officers), have already been raised at Lekhapani and Missamari in Assam in 2009-10. Their operational tasking is the defence of Arunachal Pradesh, which China often claims as its territory.

"Mechanized elements (tanks and infantry combat vehicles) are also being strengthened in eastern Ladakh and Sikkim," said the source. Moreover, a Rs 26,155 crore plan to develop infrastructure along the 4,057-km LAC by 2020-21 is already underway.

The new corps, with two specialized high-altitude divisions for "rapid reaction force capability in mountains", will add to all this. This will give India, which for long has focused on the land borders with Pakistan, some offensive teeth against China as well.

This is critical because China has "aggressively" strengthened its military capabilities in the TAR, with at least five fully-operational airbases, an extensive rail network and over 58,000-km of roads. This, as earlier reported by TOI, allows China to move over 30 divisions (each with over 15,000 soldiers) to the LAC, outnumbering Indian forces by at least 3:1 there.

IF India ventures into Tibet,they will say goodbye to their Whole North Eest for ever.

 

[Alphacharlie]

IF India ventures into Tibet,they will say goodbye to their Whole North Eest for ever.

On what Basis ???

We are not Philipines who will Tolerate China Bullying..............

Nor are we in 62 when our Standing ARMY was 80k and Chinese 1.2 Million......

You Can Dream On..................

 

[haidian]

We have much stronger military,economy,infrastructure,manufacturing...we are much better in almost everything worth mentioning,in 1962 China was poorer and technological more backwards than India but now we had long changed the tables,so if you like have the war mentality against China,you will suffer and see that map,your NE is barely connected with the rest of your country,that's a very weak point and you should know that.

 

[Alphacharlie]

We have much stronger military,economy,infrastructure,manufacturing...we are much better in almost everything worth mentioning,in 1962 China was poorer and technological more backwards than India but now we had long changed the tables,so if you like have the war mentality against China,you will suffer and see that map,your NE is barely connected with the rest of your country,that's a very weak point and you should know that.

Illustrate Where you are Strong At ??

Air Corps - IAF has 8 SQns of SU30 MKI
ARMY - You Only Lead in Infantry, By the Indian Army has a Whole Armourd Corps Division Based in North East.
3 Bofors Brigades already Deployed in one Year M777 will be arriving
Battle Surveillance - Satellite to UAV...we lead on any account

Infrastructure - Yes you have made Roads and Fortifications. But You massively lack in Tactcial Air lift (IAF Strategic AIRLIFT capability - Largest in Asia (112 AN 32, 25 IL76, 60 Avros, 12 C130Js 40+ Dorniers) + 10 C17s in a Next 2 years........

Not Touching Navy on purpose. Your friend tried Chopping Chicken Neck in 1971 but retreated,

To refresh your memory in 1987 Sumdurong Border Conflict China Got a Bloody Nose...


Sir -Dont live in Illusion live in Reality.

 

[haidian]

China's economy,,infrastructure,manufacturing...are several times better than India,do you accept that fact??that's the base to support a war.

as for military,your generals state the fact clearly.

India no match for China: Navy chief
Rahul Singh, Hindustan Times
New Delhi, August 11, 2009

Should war break out between India and China, we are doomed. Navy chief Admiral Sureesh Mehta publicly admitted on Monday that India was no match for China and there was no way New Delhi could bridge the yawning gap in its capabilities against China. He said it would be foolhardy to compare the two nations as equals.

Mehta, who retires on August 31 at the age of 62, warned:“In military terms, both conventionally and unconventionally, we can neither have the capability nor the intention to match China force for force…”

It is rare for service chiefs in India to articulate their concerns loudly. The government disapproves of it. But when a chief makes such a prophesy, he has to be taken seriously.

He said Beijing was in the process of consolidating its comprehensive national power and creating formidable military capability.“Once that is done, China is likely to be more assertive on its claims, especially in the immediate neighbourhood,” said Mehta, who as the Chairman, Chiefs of Staff Committee, is the country’s senior most military commander.

He saw ominous signs everywhere while delivering a talk on India’s national security challenges on Monday.“Whether in terms of GDP, defence spending or any other economic, social or development parameter, the gap between the two is just too wide to bridge (and getting wider by the day).”

Mehta backed his claims with figures. He said India’s annual defence expenditure of roughly $30 billion paled in front of China’s defence spending. He said the Americans pegged China’s defence budget between $70 billion and $200 billion.

“Our trust deficit with China can never be liquidated unless our boundary problems are resolved…Coping with China will certainly be one of our primary challenges in the years ahead.”

India’s air power just 1/3rd of China: IAF
Thursday, September 24, 2009, 00:35

India’s air power just 1/3rd of China: IAF Zeenews Bureau

Gandhinagar: The Air Chief Marshal PV Naik on Wednesday admitted that India was no match to China when it came to air power.

"Our present aircraft strength is inadequate. Aircraft strength is one third that of China. The Government of India is doing a lot to augment Air Force capability," Naik said.

Interestingly, former Navy chief Suresh Mehta had also, last month, claimed that India is no match to China when it comes to military strength.

He, however, chose to downplay the threat from India’s eastern neighbour amid reported violations of the Indian airspace and territory by Chinese troops.

No imminent threat

Stressing that India must build up its weapons capability to thwart such attempts, Naik said, “There are two ways to look at Chinese incursions. One way is to take up weapons and go to the border. Other way is to build systematic weapons capability to tackle the threat.”

Over 100 pilots have applied for VRS: IAF Chief

The IAF chief also stressed that there was no imminent threat from the Dragon.

He also refuted reports of violation of airspace along the Line of Actual Control (LAC) by the

 

[haidian]

China is a centralized country,is very efficient of taking on big projects,in case of war the government can mobilise all available resources for the war in weeks if not days and switches the whole economy to war time mode.can India do that?

 

[Yogi]

China's economy,,infrastructure,manufacturing...are several times better than India,do you accept that fact??that's the base to support a war.

as for military,your generals state the fact clearly.

Yes there no denying the fact that China currently maintains superiority over India but it won't last for long n thats the sole raising these mountain crop, acquisition of mass transport aircrafts, ultra light howitzers n better road n rail connectivity so as to nullify China's lead...

We r just raising our guards up to avoid any future misadventure from China n there is nothing wrong with that...

 

[haidian]

Yes there no denying the fact that China currently maintains superiority over India but it won't last for long n thats the sole raising these mountain crop, acquisition of mass transport aircrafts, ultra light howitzers n better road n rail connectivity so as to nullify China's lead...

We r just raising our guards up to avoid any future misadventure from China n there is nothing wrong with that...

actually the gap is getting bigger,China's economy increased faster than India's and it is already several times bigger than India's and the country increases her defence budget in double digits every year.India has a very very smaller manufacturing base and insufficient fund,how can you close the gap instead of being left behind further and further.your move can only worsen the current situation and make China take actions to make similiar deployment accordingly.

 

[Yogi]

China is a centralized country,is very efficient of taking on big projects,in case of war the government can mobilise all available resources for the war in weeks if not days and switches the whole economy to war time mode.can India do that?

stop this war mongering u idiot, the possibility of a full fledged war between India n China is very less due the possibility of a nuclear holocaust effecting atleast 50% of world's population, at max the will be some border skirmish for wish we r taking protective measures. we r not planning to invade China or something but just making our guards strong enough to answer any stupid misadventure...

 

[Yogi]

actually the gap is getting bigger,China's economy increased faster than India's and it is already several times bigger than India's and the country increases her defence budget in double digits every year.India has a very very smaller manufacturing base and insufficient fund,how can you close the gap instead of being left behind further and further.your move can only worsen the current situation and make China take actions to make similiar deployment accordingly.

Ur singing it the other way round, China has already started deploying its troops in the border areas we r just taking counter measure thats all...

 

[RISING SUN]

I don't know what is wrong with these some of Chinese guys. We always think of connecting all parts of India to respective border regions just like Europeans. We are gaining some strength compared to Chinese military since last few years which is already strongest military in Asia. But you can't digest it, & still you are itching for fight. Can't you guys read properly. It is written clearly that if you invade us then we will only respond to that. Is it too much for your end. What do you want? We just sit tight & wait for wish to be fullfilled. You love your country, we love our country but don't become too mad for fight. Fight will lead us nowhere. Further saying that if you invade us, better be prepared for equal response.

 

[HongWu]

They are terrified of our 300 km range rocket artillery hammering New Delhi.

 

[LiberalAtheist]

It doesn't matter what military developments large or small in North East India are being done China simply has the edge because of geography, China could easily pour 400,000 troops into Arunachal Pradesh in less than 2 weeks. India should opt for a mountain strike corps based in Himachal Pradessh and Uttarakhand so that if any Chinese offensive into AP happens a counteroffensive into Aksai Chin/TAR can be used.

 

[SwatCat]

actually the gap is getting bigger,China's economy increased faster than India's and it is already several times bigger than India's and the country increases her defence budget in double digits every year.India has a very very smaller manufacturing base and insufficient fund,how can you close the gap instead of being left behind further and further.your move can only worsen the current situation and make China take actions to make similiar deployment accordingly.

It will be china that will loose the momentum of economic development so keep silent and don't do war mongering here.

 

[Alphacharlie]

China's economy,,infrastructure,manufacturing...are several times better than India,do you accept that fact??that's the base to support a war.

as for military,your generals state the fact clearly.

SUCH statements are made by Chiefs now and then to Get more Defence Budget-
This is part of Pshyc-Ops Sir..............

You Can see Orbat on aNY Website and make layman analysis...Numbers of Wiki Pedia are INCORRET and Deflated for India, where as Severely Inflated for CHina and pAKISTAN

By the WAY YOUR NUCLER Forces are supported by SSBNs which Hardly Leave HARBOR -God Bless in event of REAL need.

Also, lets not talk of Nuke Card We have ample Projectiles to Reach "Harbin"

Do recollect How Peoples Daily Panicked When Agni 5 was Tested.

Mate - With Power comes Responsibility, Not Impulsivity........

WE KNOW HOW TO STAND TALL


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