China ups the ante against India, renames 15 places in Arunachal Pradesh

[Warking]

I didnt know the Afghanistan nationalists said that and they were laughing at that. But if they were laughing, may be they were not serious about it.
You were pretty serious about what you said, were'nt you?

Yep you know better then me about them ok.

 

[K_Bin_W]

I always try my best to use south Tibet.

Should be IOT

 

[SIPRA]

Traditionally, China's claim on NEFA (now Arunachal Pradesh) was a sort of counterpoise, to India's claim on Aksai China. That is why Chou Enlai proposed to Nehru a swap, which India rejected. Now, it is not clear that whether China's claim is serious, or a pressure tactics, to keep India within its limits.

 

[applesauce]

Great!

Now that we agree that Dalai Lama was the sole and legitimate leader of Tibet, read what he said about Tibet being Independent and driving out the Chinese Military.


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if you want to say that the former dalai lama wanted or did declare independence, then its not disputed.
many areas/provinces of china declared independence from the empire on the death of the qing dynasty.

however

one.
tibet was never international recognized as a independence country. not a single nation on earth saw it as such.

and second. if you are going by the dalai lama as the authority on tibet, then maybe you should hear the current dalai lama and his position on tibet.it is still up on his website.

and i quote
" The Tibetan people do not accept the present status of Tibet under the People's Republic of China. At the same time, they do not seek independence for Tibet, which is a historical fact. Treading a middle path in between these two lies the policy and means to achieve a genuine autonomy for all Tibetans living in the three traditional provinces of Tibet within the framework of the People's Republic of China. "

if you can understand even 1st grade english, it's clear that hes has straight up stated that Arunachal Pradesh belongs to tibet and that tibet belongs to china.

china of course will not accept his idea of autonomy, which includes things like limits on military forces and central government control over education and such. but regardless since you like pointing out the dalai lama so much, then you should agree with him that india is currently, illegally, occupying a part of tibet which belongs to china.

 

[Stranagor]

What else they could have done? They are unable to handle east turkey, Taiwan, Mongolia, Tibet etc. We have Tibetan government in exile in India. Frustrated Xi is venting his frustration this way.
Arunachal Pradesh is a sanskrit name and hence belongs to India. Tibet is north Arunachal Pradesh hence it also belongs to India.

India has a much invigorated separatism and much more ripe for disintegration, to be clear.

 

[FreeFromFear]

Yep you know better then me about them ok.

Yes. You know me better than me. The divine has already defined me for you

 

[SIPRA]

India has a much invigorated separatism and much more ripe for disintegration, to be clear.

India cannot be balkanized; but, there is a possibility, that If China intends, it has the capability and resources to strip off certain areas of India.

 

[FOOLS_NIGHTMARE]

India cannot be balkanized; but, there is a possibility, that If China intends, it has the capability and resources to strip off certain areas of India.

It's the writing on the wall, the artificial state of India will disintegrate. It was coerced into a Union by Sardar Patel.

 

[Warking]

Yes. You know me better than me. The divine has already defined me for you

You make as much sense as Godi media.

 

[大汉奸柳传志]

2022 is the beginning of the offensive

 

[mike2000 is back]

1962 war was for aksai chin,the Chinese didn't withdraw from what they captured.Chinese leader warned the Indians against border encroachment beforehand ,just like they warned the Vietnamese for invading Cambodia,and the Americans before the US invaded the 38th parallel in Korea ,when the other side didn't heed Chinese warning we all know what happens later,.
Now ,Xi again ,though in a more subtle manner, warned US(Biden) against provocation in Taiwan strait,I sense China has ticked their box for onus of warning and will follow through with a war if provocation escalated in strait.

Dude, what are you on about ? You said the Chinese wanted just aksai Chin? Where did you get that from? If that was the case then why are they still insisting they want Arunachal pradesh(which they call South Tibet). ? Lol
Dude you should go read the 1962 war. The Chinese captured all the disputed territory they were disputing with India including all of Arunachal Pradesh. However Mao ordered the unilateral withdrawal from all of arunachal Pradesh and they even went further back than before the war. ONLY GOD knows what was going through Maos head at that time lol
If China didn't want south Tibet like you claim then they wouldn't still be a standoff over that area for that long to this day.
For your other point about warning Vietnam over Cambodia, they did warn Vietnam and went to war with Vietnam but it didn't change anything whatsoever, as Vietnam remained in Cambodia while fighting the Chinese until they left voluntarily after pressure, isolation and sanctions from US/West and subsequent rapprochement with the West, since that was part of the condition the US/WEST gave Vietnam for normalisation of ties/opening snd joining the international community. and lifting of sanctions.

 

[Leishangthem]

Dude, what are you on about ? You said the Chinese wanted just aksai Chin? Where did you get that from? If that was the case then why are they still insisting they want Arunachal pradesh(which they call South Tibet). ? Lol
Dude you should go read the 1962 war. The Chinese captured all the disputed territory they were disputing with India including all of Arunachal Pradesh. However Mao ordered the unilateral withdrawal from all of arunachal Pradesh and they even went further back than before the war. ONLY GOD knows what was going through Maos head at that time lol
If China didn't want south Tibet like you claim then they wouldn't still be a standoff over that area for that long to this day.
For your other point about warning Vietnam over Cambodia, they did warn Vietnam and went to war with Vietnam but it didn't change anything whatsoever as Vietnam remained in Cambodia while fighting the Chinese until they left voluntarily after pressure, isolation and sanctions from US/West and subsequent rapprochement with the West, since that was part of the condition the US/WEST have Vietnam for normalisation of ties and lifting of sanction

The 1962 war with India was primarily at the aksai chin front as a direct consequence of the delusional Nehru's forward policy,China also captured vast swaths of land in Arunachal which they still manage today,the Indian map can be very misleading,but it wasn't a war about Arunachal. China claims Arunachal now because ,when lndia was given the chance, India refused to settle it .Now China can use Arunachal as trigger point when they want to pressure the Indian gov.

In Vietnam ,China wanted to teach their neighbor a lesson,that the soviets can't defend them and withdrew just 2 dozen km off Hanoi,when China was able to assert their point. China still has gains in area from that invasion, China just made a short 2-3 month punitive invasion,nothing the west could do about it,China was already at odds with west,they didn't matter in security policies like it didn't during the korean war,or at indo chinese war .
Vietnam 's entire policy and plans got derailed after they were made to realize the fact that the soviets wouldn't be coming to save them,thus the Vietnamese goal of Vietnam dominated federation in South East asia was killed at its base by China.

 

[K_Bin_W]

I also call it South Tibet. Never Arunachal Pradesh.

Forget these Indiots. They will never listen to sound reason or fair judgment. Same thing with the Kashmir dispute. We have asked them that lets hold a plebiscite to decide the outcome of the Kashmir dispute, but they never will. Obviously this problem only suits the interests of outsiders. These Hindus just want land. The Western powers with all their hypocrisy, and indifference couldn't give a damn for Asian peoples like us. Problems like Kashmir, and South Tibet will have to be dealt with force.

I heard Zhou Enlai tried to negotiate with the Hindus, but as usual, the Hindus rejected such negotiations and compromises.

You should call it IOsT Indian Occupied south Tibet or simply IOT Indian Occupied Tibet.

 

[MultaniGuy]

As I said, it will only serve the powerful party here, which clearly you are not.

Resistance is futile!

You ancestors rolled over to Muslims and British, to live another day. just go along with your history to survive.

These Indians are losers. The Chinese never agreed to any treaty the British tried to shove down their throats.
Even the old British India maps do not show South Tibet as being part of the British Raj empire.

 

[tower9]

Dude, what are you on about ? You said the Chinese wanted just aksai Chin? Where did you get that from? If that was the case then why are they still insisting they want Arunachal pradesh(which they call South Tibet). ? Lol
Dude you should go read the 1962 war. The Chinese captured all the disputed territory they were disputing with India including all of Arunachal Pradesh. However Mao ordered the unilateral withdrawal from all of arunachal Pradesh and they even went further back than before the war. ONLY GOD knows what was going through Maos head at that time lol
If China didn't want south Tibet like you claim then they wouldn't still be a standoff over that area for that long to this day.
For your other point about warning Vietnam over Cambodia, they did warn Vietnam and went to war with Vietnam but it didn't change anything whatsoever as Vietnam remained in Cambodia while fighting the Chinese until they left voluntarily after pressure, isolation and sanctions from US/West and subsequent rapprochement with the West, since that was part of the condition the US/WEST have Vietnam for normalisation of ties and lifting of sanction

Mao vacated Arunachal at that time because he wanted a permanent peace with India and wanted a trade off where China and India can agree to a permanent border where China kept Aksai Chin but India kept Arunachal and at least saved some face. But India never agreed to that and to this day the border remains unresolved.