China ups the ante against India, renames 15 places in Arunachal Pradesh

[Areesh]

,China also captured vast swaths of land in Arunachal which they still manage today

Didn't China return territory it captured in Arunachal??

 

[SIPRA]

Didn't China return territory it captured in Arunachal??

Of course, they returned all the territory, captured in NEFA, and withdrew to the north of McMohan Line, as delimited on the maps; though they never accepted this line, as a de juro international border. This is an undeniable historical fact.

 

[Leishangthem]

Didn't China return territory it captured in Arunachal??

not all

 

[Areesh]

not all

Like which regions or territories they didn't return?

 

[MH.Yang]

Can you provide me some credible source, where this change in policy is documented? I am looking for it, for quite some time, but have failed to find one.

In China, China's negotiating position on the border with India is no secret.
In 1962, a border conflict broke out between China and India, and China recovered Aksai Chin.
Since 1965, China's negotiation policy has been to replace the east line with the west line to protect the safety of the Karakoram Highway and the China-Pakistan channel. At this time, China is preparing to exchange ZangNan for Aksai Chin. But India rejected China's terms of negotiation.
In 1987, border conflicts broke out again between China and India. China has transferred 120k troops from the eastern theater into Tibet to prepare for the second China-India War. The leaders of the USA and the USSR visited India to mediate. In 1988, Indian Prime Minister Rajiv Gandhi visited China, and the border conflict began to subside.
In 1990, 1992, 1995 and 2003, China and India held many negotiations. In June 2003, Indian Prime Minister Vajpayee and Chinese Premier Zhu Rongji signed a border agreement, almost confirming the exchange of ZangNan for Aksai Chin.
However, in April 2005, India overturned the previous negotiation results again. Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh only agreed to sign a border ceasefire agreement. Border talks between China and India have stalled.
In 2013, border conflicts broke out again between China and India. China and India renegotiate. China proposes a new bottom line for negotiations. Exchange ZangNan for Ladakh instead of Aksai Chin. India once again rejected the new request for negotiations.

 

[SIPRA]

In China, China's negotiating position on the border with India is no secret.
In 1962, a border conflict broke out between China and India, and China recovered Aksai Chin.
Since 1965, China's negotiation policy has been to replace the east line with the west line to protect the safety of the Karakoram Highway and the China-Pakistan channel. At this time, China is preparing to exchange ZangNan for Aksai Chin. But India rejected China's terms of negotiation.
In 1987, border conflicts broke out again between China and India. China has transferred 120k troops from the eastern theater into Tibet to prepare for the second China-India War. The leaders of the USA and the USSR visited India to mediate. In 1988, Indian Prime Minister Rajiv Gandhi visited China, and the border conflict began to subside.
In 1990, 1992, 1995 and 2003, China and India held many negotiations. In June 2003, Indian Prime Minister Vajpayee and Chinese Premier Zhu Rongji signed a border agreement, almost confirming the exchange of ZangNan for Aksai Chin.
However, in April 2005, India overturned the previous negotiation results again. Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh only agreed to sign a border ceasefire agreement. Border talks between China and India have stalled.
In 2013, border conflicts broke out again between China and India. China and India renegotiate. China proposes a new bottom line for negotiations. Exchange ZangNan for Ladakh instead of Aksai Chin. India once again rejected the new request for negotiations.

What about Tawang?

 

[mazeto]

In China, China's negotiating position on the border with India is no secret.
In 1962, a border conflict broke out between China and India, and China recovered Aksai Chin.
Since 1965, China's negotiation policy has been to replace the east line with the west line to protect the safety of the Karakoram Highway and the China-Pakistan channel. At this time, China is preparing to exchange ZangNan for Aksai Chin. But India rejected China's terms of negotiation.
In 1987, border conflicts broke out again between China and India. China has transferred 120k troops from the eastern theater into Tibet to prepare for the second China-India War. The leaders of the USA and the USSR visited India to mediate. In 1988, Indian Prime Minister Rajiv Gandhi visited China, and the border conflict began to subside.
In 1990, 1992, 1995 and 2003, China and India held many negotiations. In June 2003, Indian Prime Minister Vajpayee and Chinese Premier Zhu Rongji signed a border agreement, almost confirming the exchange of ZangNan for Aksai Chin.
However, in April 2005, India overturned the previous negotiation results again. Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh only agreed to sign a border ceasefire agreement. Border talks between China and India have stalled.
In 2013, border conflicts broke out again between China and India. China and India renegotiate. China proposes a new bottom line for negotiations. Exchange ZangNan for Ladakh instead of Aksai Chin. India once again rejected the new request for negotiations.

As these frank admissions illustrate, the Chinese position on Arunachal is opportunistic, devious, fleeting and flitting. The Indian position is at least unflinching.. that it's an integral part of the nation and they will not part with it come what may.
They are willing to negotiate large populated areas on economic or strategic concerns and not on principles.
Personally I never had doubts their position on Arunachal is purely rhetoric. But their stellar economic performance may make them change rhetoric to fact.. in which case they would probably takeover the whole Northeast India and create one or more independent, China-leaning countries as a buffer between itself and India. At the same time they may take Ladakh and gift the Kashmir and Jammu to pak ( as a buffer), so that only the Barahoti sector in Uttarakhand remains as Indo - Chinese border. Saavdhaan raho!

 

[Bossman]

BJP were quick in hindhunise Islamic names of towns and cities in India. Now the Chinese are changing the names of places in areas which Indians consider to be integral part of India to Chinese. There is no correlation but what an irony.

As these frank admissions illustrate, the Chinese position on Arunachal is opportunistic, devious, fleeting and flitting. The Indian position is at least unflinching.. that it's an integral part of the nation and they will not part with it come what may.
They are willing to negotiate large populated areas on economic or strategic concerns and not on principles.
Personally I never had doubts their position on Arunachal is purely rhetoric. But their stellar economic performance may make them change rhetoric to fact.. in which case they would probably takeover the whole Northeast India and create one or more independent, China-leaning countries as a buffer between itself and India. At the same time they may take Ladakh and gift the Kashmir and Jammu to pak ( as a buffer), so that only the Barahoti sector in Uttarakhand remains as Indo - Chinese border. Saavdhaan raho!

Do the Chinese gives a rat’s a$$ about the Indian position?

 

[SIPRA]

As these frank admissions illustrate, the Chinese position on Arunachal is opportunistic, devious, fleeting and flitting. The Indian position is at least unflinching.. that it's an integral part of the nation and they will not part with it come what may.
They are willing to negotiate large populated areas on economic or strategic concerns and not on principles.
Personally I never had doubts their position on Arunachal is purely rhetoric. But their stellar economic performance may make them change rhetoric to fact.. in which case they would probably takeover the whole Northeast India and create one or more independent, China-leaning countries as a buffer between itself and India. At the same time they may take Ladakh and gift the Kashmir and Jammu to pak ( as a buffer), so that only the Barahoti sector in Uttarakhand remains as Indo - Chinese border. Saavdhaan raho!

Don't give moral lectures. It is geopolitics and is fundamentally governed by power, whether it is China or India.

 

[mazeto]

Don't give moral lectures. It is geopolitics and is fundamentally governed by power, whether it is China or India.

You should not forget to quote your own lines when Kashmiri civilians are killed, right?

 

[MultaniGuy]

As these frank admissions illustrate, the Chinese position on Arunachal is opportunistic, devious, fleeting and flitting. The Indian position is at least unflinching.. that it's an integral part of the nation and they will not part with it come what may.
They are willing to negotiate large populated areas on economic or strategic concerns and not on principles.
Personally I never had doubts their position on Arunachal is purely rhetoric. But their stellar economic performance may make them change rhetoric to fact.. in which case they would probably takeover the whole Northeast India and create one or more independent, China-leaning countries as a buffer between itself and India. At the same time they may take Ladakh and gift the Kashmir and Jammu to pak ( as a buffer), so that only the Barahoti sector in Uttarakhand remains as Indo - Chinese border. Saavdhaan raho!

Exactly don't give moral lectures. When you know from a political science perspective Pakistan should have all of Kashmir.

Even one of our Chinese members said China has not given up it's claim on South Tibet.

 

[mazeto]

Do the Chinese gives a rat’s a$$ about the Indian position?

In the same way India gave a rats a&& to pak objections on repealing article 370?

 

[MultaniGuy]

In the same way India gave a rats a&& to pak objections on repealing article 370?

China never gave up its claim on South Tibet? Is your brain working?

In the same way India gave a rats a&& to pak objections on repealing article 370?

Kashmir is disputed territory, not Indian land.

 

[mazeto]

Exactly don't give moral lectures. When you know from a political science perspective Pakistan should have all of Kashmir.

Even one of our Chinese members said China has not given up it's claim on South Tibet.

Yes,political science perspective says NWFP belong to Afghanistan right?

 

[MultaniGuy]

Yes,political science perspective says NWFP belong to Afghanistan right?

Durand Line has no expiry date. From a Political Science perspective Frontier province belongs to Pakistan also from a Legal perspective.

You know nothing do you. LOL

Yes,political science perspective says NWFP belong to Afghanistan right?

Actually its the other way round.

All of Afghanistan belongs to Pakistan. Nice try though.

You have no knowledge of Legal facts or Political Science.
Now shoo before you embarrass yourself here.