ChineseTiger1986
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Totally agree. Both the Su-35 deal and the alleged S-400 deal were made in 2014, just one year after Xi Jinping took office. And what better way to promote Sino-Russian geopolitical alliance than to buy some Russian equipment. We all know that Russia's economy was tanking back in 2014 and lacked friends due to the Crimean annexation. Since one of Xi Jinping's first foreign policy priorities was to enhance bilateral relations with Russia, it makes sense that an arms deal would be in place. And note how both systems have been advertised to China for almost a decade ... why would China suddenly sign two deals immediately after Xi's presidency. The answer is geopolitics.China has managed to develop the much more complicated technology like the DN-3.
To compare the S-400 to the DN-3 is like to compare the conventional sub to the nuclear sub.
China's reason to purchase of the S-400 was purely geopolitical just like the purchase of the Su-35, and China can undoubtedly develop the SAM equal or superior to the S-400 on its own.
Totally agree. Both the Su-35 deal and the alleged S-400 deal were made in 2014, just one year after Xi Jinping took office. And what better way to promote Sino-Russian geopolitical alliance than to buy some Russian equipment. We all know that Russia's economy was tanking back in 2014 and lacked friends due to the Crimean annexation. Since one of Xi Jinping's first foreign policy priorities was to enhance bilateral relations with Russia, it makes sense that an arms deal would be in place. And note how both systems have been advertised to China for almost a decade ... why would China suddenly sign two deals immediately after Xi's presidency. The answer is geopolitics.
As I said before integrate S-400 on Zubr-class LCAC, it will have a devastating effect on eastern sea, or SCS, the high mobility of this ship combined with amazing range of S-400, China can then set the mobile ADIZ
apart from high thrust turbofan engine and the number of nukes```I cant think any others that they are ahead of us```in fact in terms of electrical propulsion system, integrated power management system, diesel engine, Gas turbine, radar, semiconductor, Aegis combat system, stealth fighter, drone, AI and new material, NMD, TMD, rail gun and etc``` we are infact miles ahead of Russia, and the gap is ever widing```Actually, the Russians initially doubted their S-400 will be copied by the Chinese. There was a debate over it and finally, they arrived at a conclusion that S-400 is too complex to be copied. And no, when it comes to defense tech, Russia is miles ahead. Be it Naval vessels, Fighters, missiles, you name it.
apart from high thrust turbofan engine and the number of nukes```I cant think any others that they are ahead of us```in fact in terms of electrical propulsion system, integrated power management system, diesel engine, Gas turbine, radar, semiconductor, Aegis combat system, stealth fighter, drone, AI and new material, NMD, TMD, rail gun and etc``` we are infact miles ahead of Russia, and the gap is ever widing```
your funny Indian delusion bares no weight of fact as simple as that
China paid for half of S400 development fee.The price Russia quote China for S400 is only half of India.
Typical self denial. There are many Chinese defence hardware sold which user has no problem trusting made in China product. A hint (UCAV).Funny you still have to rely on Russian designs for aircraft, and engines, and the jets that look similar to other countries. You are miles ahead of Moscow (in time zone). Appreciate your gut to come here and claim you are some technologically advanced country. Most countries do not trust Chinese made stuff when it comes to defense equipment (The thread is about S-400, don't jump topics and claim we did this and that like a kid). That's why Russians still own a major chunk of defense deals around the world, together with the US and other western countries.
Funny you still have to rely on Russian designs for aircraft, and engines, and the jets that look similar to other countries. You are miles ahead of Moscow (in time zone). Appreciate your gut to come here and claim you are some technologically advanced country. Most countries do not trust Chinese made stuff when it comes to defense equipment (The thread is about S-400, don't jump topics and claim we did this and that like a kid). That's why Russians still own a major chunk of defense deals around the world, together with the US and other western countries.
Russians practically don't have to do any power projection right now. They are well within their limit to protect their boundary and also, they are not in a good economic shape.Let me ask you some simple question. How many new type of destroyer had Russian launched since Soviet Union? Zero. How is new Chinese destroyer looks anything similar to Russian one? Same as LDP, replenishment ship, frigate and corvette. Care to answer me?
Russian weapon export market will not hold much edge longer. The Chinese are edging closer.
And anyone cares to buy? At least put a quotation?China has 2 fifth Gen Fighter programs at the same time whilst
Russia is struggling with one. As for India they can't assemble
a 3th Generation Teja fighter.
yet again to funny and deluded Indian, none of the above that has remote connection to facts. and stereotypes carry no weight of reality, and this cannt be more suitable to extremely ignorant and primitive Indian.Funny you still have to rely on Russian designs for aircraft, and engines, and the jets that look similar to other countries. You are miles ahead of Moscow (in time zone). Appreciate your gut to come here and claim you are some technologically advanced country. Most countries do not trust Chinese made stuff when it comes to defense equipment (The thread is about S-400, don't jump topics and claim we did this and that like a kid). That's why Russians still own a major chunk of defense deals around the world, together with the US and other western countries.
and another reason that Russia is still one of the biggest arm exporters is due to primitive countries like India, cant even produce a bullet but have to rely on virtually everything on Russia```so they can rape you off like innocent Indian girls in your slums, factRussians practically don't have to do any power projection right now. They are well within their limit to protect their boundary and also, they are not in a good economic shape.
Russian export market will hold much longer as long as there are buyers. Since not many countries make such weapons.
And anyone cares to buy? At least put a quotation?
Russia already has enough resources for it. Russians don't boast about it much. India assembled enough jets, more than any in South Asia. And don't make it about India you Pakistani. Tejas is not the topic here.
Poor obsessed guy, please do look at your own threads in which you look at Russian fighters, claims Russia will sell their fighters to you and so and so. Please don't make such threads when you have superior Chinese jets. Buy their fifth gen hyper power jets.
Russians practically don't have to do any power projection right now. They are well within their limit to protect their boundary and also, they are not in a good economic shape.
Funny you still have to rely on Russian designs for aircraft, and engines, and the jets that look similar to other countries. You are miles ahead of Moscow (in time zone). Appreciate your gut to come here and claim you are some technologically advanced country. Most countries do not trust Chinese made stuff when it comes to defense equipment (The thread is about S-400, don't jump topics and claim we did this and that like a kid). That's why Russians still own a major chunk of defense deals around the world, together with the US and other western countries.
High end is not military grade weapons or support systems. You send small support equipment, phones, other com devices, and computers (including with others).yet again to funny and deluded Indian, none of the above that has remote connection to facts. and stereotypes carry no weight of reality, and this cannt be more suitable to extremely ignorant and primitive Indian.
here are the facts: most countries (including your white masters) trust Chinese stuff, so we are the biggest exporter of high tech end products;
secondly, there are loads good threads regarding Chinese CV, aircraft and weapon system development, but i guess techniqual and common sense discussions are not suitable to ignorant Indian;
and lastly, regarding the S-400, yes they are offering a small number of it to us with a unit price that is a fraction to what was offered to India with much lager quantity, I guess primitive factor driven SP 12 doesnt have any leverage on international arm dealings```can you tell me why?
and another reason that Russia is still one of the biggest arm exporters is due to primitive countries like India, cant even produce a bullet but have to rely on virtually everything on Russia```so they can rape you off like innocent Indian girls in your slums, fact