China threatens its Neighbours

[RollingStones]

I am sure between these countries they can get 1000 nukes in no time (stockpiled enriched uranium not actual warheads, if you know what I mean). Between them, they all have delivery capabilities in air, sea and land. Russia already leases nuclear powered submarines capable of launching missiles to India. Isnt that a threat? How does the Russian treaty help you? South Korea, Japan, Taiwan all have the money and resources to import massive quantities of arms in no time, with per capital income 20 times higher than China's. We just transferred a bunch of latest missiles to Taiwan. We just transferred massive troop lifters and sea landers to India. Are you saying China can outspend and out induct weapon systems at a far faster rate than countries with massive amounts of moneys can buy quickly from weapons suppliers? The point is you need money, energy security, weapons and allies to fight a war. All these countries seem to have all that. But China's position in all these areas is tenuous at best. So, how can you be sure?

The fact is China cannot even think of crushing anyone. You are too poor to do that.

 

[below_freezing]

I surely can. Can you first bring up the dream statistics of domestic consumption being greater than the manufacturing. Have you seen the trade imbalance with just US alone? Now it has to be a logical discussion or else just a waste of time. And to understand the communist party numbers, why not start with reading a little bit about the Shanghai real estate bubble and the disinvestment in banks immediatley followng that to continue maintaing liquidity with the government. Also read about the %age of NPAs developed by major Chinese banks in just last 4 years even when several of these were written off regularly till then. And then compare these statistics with the scrip valuation in HK and Shaghai. Try to see a trend. I really cannot undo the party education in a few minutes. You do not expect it, do you now?

Chinese businessmen do not believe the statistics? What do they believe?

The Other Big Piece Of Bad News Out Of China: IPO Of Ag Bank Is A Flop

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AgBank already has a higher NPA ratio, at 2.9%, then any other major Chinese bank. For example, the Chinese Construction Bank has an NPA ratio of 1.6%."

Contrast with a certain Indian bank!

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com...-slow-business-growth/articleshow/5911348.cms

The bank’s NPA kept on rising throughout the year. At the beginning of FY10, its NPA stood at 1.3%, which rose to touch 2.5% at the end of the year.

Also it doesn't matter, they're all state owned and we can make capital injections any time. It turns NPAs into a consumption stimulus and social welfare.

What a joke to claim that exports > domestic consumption.

hktdc.com - China' domestic market size may reach US$2 trlllion in 2010

China's domestic market size may realize US$2 trillion or around RMB 13.56 trillion this year, an amount even exceeding the country's estimated exports, said Chong Quan, China's Deputy International Trade Representative, at a forum on imports and exports.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

The fact is China cannot even think of crushing anyone. You are too poor to do that.

China does not need to crush anyone. The current economic status quo favours us, as time goes on, our position improves.

China does have poverty, but your nation of India has the most. India has more poor people than Africa.

Your adopted nation (USA) is living under a mountain of debt, and borrowing Chinese money to finance their debt repayments and their spending.

 

[ares]

China does not need to crush anyone. The current status quo favours us, as time goes on, our position improves. .

Not viz-a-viz India.

China does have poverty, but your nation of India has the most. India has more poor people than Africa.

You think he is Indian?..

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

You think he is Indian?..

Absolutely. Indians are the fondest of false flags on here.

Just read his comments to know that he is an Indian.

Actual polls of the US population show that most Americans don't care about India.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

I am sure between these countries they can get 1000 nukes in no time (stockpiled enriched uranium not actual warheads, if you know what I mean). Between them, they all have delivery capabilities in air, sea and land. Russia already leases nuclear powered submarines capable of launching missiles to India. Isnt that a threat? How does the Russian treaty help you? South Korea, Japan, Taiwan all have the money and resources to import massive quantities of arms in no time, with per capital income 20 times higher than China's. We just transferred a bunch of latest missiles to Taiwan. We just transferred massive troop lifters and sea landers to India. Are you saying China can outspend and out induct weapon systems at a far faster rate than countries with massive amounts of moneys can buy quickly from weapons suppliers? The point is you need money, energy security, weapons and allies to fight a war. All these countries seem to have all that. But China's position in all these areas is tenuous at best. So, how can you be sure?

The fact is China cannot even think of crushing anyone. You are too poor to do that.

Are you sure? Look how long it takes Iran to get the nukes. Some nation like South Korea which are 100% technologically dependent won't be much better than Iran.

China has lot of more resources to maintain a very large nuclear arsenal and keeps it available for a very long time. And we will have a 100% reliable lauch platform from land/air/sea, then we will develop the space platform.

Japan/Korea/Vietnam, those nations can't compete with us in a nuke racing.

 

[RollingStones]

As time goes on, everyone's economic position will improve. It is called trade and global cash flows. China alone cannot develop at the expense of everyone. For someone from Mongolia, you sure do rant a lot about other nation's poverty.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

Not viz-a-viz India.

Our growth rate is faster than yours. So yes, as time goes on, our position vis-a-vis India improves.

Even if India manages to gain 10% growth rate (I doubt it), China's real growth will still be bigger.

10% of 6 trillion... is a LOT more than 10% of 1.5 trillion.

 

[Guest01]

Chinese businessmen do not believe the statistics? What do they believe?

The Other Big Piece Of Bad News Out Of China: IPO Of Ag Bank Is A Flop

"
AgBank already has a higher NPA ratio, at 2.9%, then any other major Chinese bank. For example, the Chinese Construction Bank has an NPA ratio of 1.6%."

Contrast with a certain Indian bank!

IOB: High NPA and slow business growth - The Economic Times

The banks NPA kept on rising throughout the year. At the beginning of FY10, its NPA stood at 1.3%, which rose to touch 2.5% at the end of the year.

Also it doesn't matter, they're all state owned and we can make capital injections any time. It turns NPAs into a consumption stimulus and social welfare.

What a joke to claim that exports > domestic consumption.

hktdc.com - China' domestic market size may reach US$2 trlllion in 2010

China's domestic market size may realize US$2 trillion or around RMB 13.56 trillion this year, an amount even exceeding the country's estimated exports, said Chong Quan, China's Deputy International Trade Representative, at a forum on imports and exports.

Quick and short reply. My flight is boarding. U need to c how many times have the npas of ur revered chinese banks been written off. Also add to that the loans galore extended in the last global crisis years to keep government companies floating. Chest thumping is good but some reality check and sense is better. Rest of the lesson tomorrow from melbourne. Do not lose sleep. It is very important for pinoys.

 

[Zeeshan360]

He is an American .

 

[ares]

Absolutely. Indians are the fondest of false flags on here.

Just read his comments to know that he is an Indian.

Actual polls of the US population show that most Americans don't care about India.

Ohh ..i have no doubts, on who he is..but you ought to read more carefully.
And not be in denial..ie There are many Americans, who do not like China.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

For someone from Mongolia, you sure do rant a lot about other nation's poverty.

I am from Hong Kong, and I'm sorry to hurt your feelings by talking about Indian poverty.

 

[RollingStones]

Dude, even we had to cut down our nuke arsenal due to the tremendous costs associated with it. And, here we are talking about a poor country like China. Dont you get it? Whatever you do, there are plenty of other countries that can do those as well and sometimes even better.

And, you are comparing an internationally isolated Iran with a completely engaged South Korea?? I mean it just does not make sense.

 

[below_freezing]

I am sure between these countries they can get 1000 nukes in no time (stockpiled enriched uranium not actual warheads, if you know what I mean). Between them, they all have delivery capabilities in air, sea and land. Russia already leases nuclear powered submarines capable of launching missiles to India. Isnt that a threat? How does the Russian treaty help you? South Korea, Japan, Taiwan all have the money and resources to import massive quantities of arms in no time, with per capital income 20 times higher than China's. We just transferred a bunch of latest missiles to Taiwan. We just transferred massive troop lifters and sea landers to India. Are you saying China can outspend and out induct weapon systems at a far faster rate than countries with massive amounts of moneys can buy quickly from weapons suppliers? The point is you need money, energy security, weapons and allies to fight a war. All these countries seem to have all that. But China's position in all these areas is tenuous at best. So, how can you be sure?

The fact is China cannot even think of crushing anyone. You are too poor to do that.

per capita income is meaningless. Hong Kong's per capita income is double that of Taiwan and SK; Hong Kong is also a part of PRC, so what now? Are you saying that Leichenstein can crush the US because it has a GDP/capita 3x that of the US? What a joke! Total GDP and military budget is what's useful in comparing and just our public budget is greater than Japan + SK + Australia + Taiwan combined. Latest missiles to Taiwan? You mean the same made in USA missiles that missed 6/19 shots in optimal conditions? The official opinion in Taiwan is that they can hold for a week. The opinion in the mainland is 3 days. Americans think that Taiwan is the "Israel" of East Asia but their military is more like "Iraq".

And you think those countries can cooperate with each other? South Korea and Japan have fought over islands. Russia is fighting with Japan right now and they don't even have a peace treaty signed. You think Russia will lift a finger to help the US? If they don't attack NATO on the European front you should be praying.

 

[ares]

Our growth rate is faster than yours. So yes, as time goes on, our position vis-a-vis India improves.

Even if India manages to gain 10% growth rate (I doubt it), China's real growth will still be bigger.

10% of 6 trillion... is a LOT more than 10% of 1.5 trillion.

No, you have sustained growth..but we are catching up on those numbers..so best time for you to attack was yesterday..but now this gap will only reduce.