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China tells US to halt spy plane flights

China has demanded that the United States stop spy plane flights near the Chinese coast, saying they have "severely harmed" trust, but the Pentagon insisted Wednesday it was within its rights.

The dispute comes after Taiwanese media reported two Chinese fighter jets attempted to scare off an American U2 reconnaissance plane that was collecting intelligence on China while flying along the Taiwan Strait in late June.

Beijing's defence ministry said the US must end such flights, calling them a "major obstacle" as the two Pacific powers try to put a series of military disputes behind them, China's state-run Global Times reported.

The flights "severely harmed" mutual trust, the paper quoted the ministry as saying.

"We demand that the US respects China's sovereignty and security interests, and take concrete measures to boost a healthy and stable development of military relations," it added. The defence ministry declined comment to AFP.

In Washington, Pentagon spokesman Colonel Dave Lapan would not give details about the recent episode but said that no US spy plane crossed into Chinese airspace.

"I can say that we fly reconnaissance missions in international airspace routinely and it is not unusual that (China) scrambles fighters," Lapan told reporters.

Lapan said that the issue showed the need for further military dialogue with China -- a priority for Admiral Mike Mullen, who earlier this month became the first chief of the US military to visit China since 2007.

"Part of the reason that we have a desire for a more robust (military) relationship and communication with the Chinese is to prevent things from developing into a crisis," Lapan said.

"There are going to be areas where we don't agree. It's our view that this is a freedom of navigation issue, that we operate in international waters and international airspace," he said.

Sino-US military relations have been plagued in recent years by periodic tensions stemming from US plans for arms sales to Taiwan and naval standoffs in the disputed South China Sea.

Beijing considers Taiwan part of its territory and refuses to abandon the possibility of taking the self-ruled island by force. The two sides split at the end of a civil war.

The United States recognises Beijing and not Taipei, but provides military support to Taiwan.

In the June encounter, one of the Chinese Sukhoi SU-27 fighters crossed over the Taiwan Strait's middle line, widely considered to be the boundary between Taiwan's airspace and that of the Chinese mainland, Taiwanese media have reported.

One of the Chinese jets did not leave until two Taiwanese planes were sent to intercept it, the island's United Daily News reported.

In April 2001, a US surveillance aircraft and a Chinese fighter jet collided in mid-air, killing a Chinese pilot and forcing the 24-member US crew to make an emergency landing on China's Hainan island. The Americans were freed after 11 days in an early crisis for newly elected president George W. Bush.

Mullen, writing in The New York Times on Tuesday, said that he spoke in Beijing with his Chinese counterpart General Chen Bingde about having "more frequent discussions, more exercises, more personnel exchanges."

"A good bit of misunderstanding between our militaries can be cleared up by reaching out to each other. We don't have to give away secrets to make our intentions clear, just open up a little," wrote the outgoing chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.

China tells US to halt spy plane flights - LANKA BUSINESS ONLINE
 
China tells US to halt spy plane flights

China has demanded that the United States stop spy plane flights near the Chinese coast, saying they have "severely harmed" trust, but the Pentagon insisted Wednesday it was within its rights.

The dispute comes after Taiwanese media reported two Chinese fighter jets attempted to scare off an American U2 reconnaissance plane that was collecting intelligence on China while flying along the Taiwan Strait in late June.

Beijing's defence ministry said the US must end such flights, calling them a "major obstacle" as the two Pacific powers try to put a series of military disputes behind them, China's state-run Global Times reported.

The flights "severely harmed" mutual trust, the paper quoted the ministry as saying.

"We demand that the US respects China's sovereignty and security interests, and take concrete measures to boost a healthy and stable development of military relations," it added. The defence ministry declined comment to AFP.

In Washington, Pentagon spokesman Colonel Dave Lapan would not give details about the recent episode but said that no US spy plane crossed into Chinese airspace.

"I can say that we fly reconnaissance missions in international airspace routinely and it is not unusual that (China) scrambles fighters," Lapan told reporters.

Lapan said that the issue showed the need for further military dialogue with China -- a priority for Admiral Mike Mullen, who earlier this month became the first chief of the US military to visit China since 2007.

"Part of the reason that we have a desire for a more robust (military) relationship and communication with the Chinese is to prevent things from developing into a crisis," Lapan said.

"There are going to be areas where we don't agree. It's our view that this is a freedom of navigation issue, that we operate in international waters and international airspace," he said.

Sino-US military relations have been plagued in recent years by periodic tensions stemming from US plans for arms sales to Taiwan and naval standoffs in the disputed South China Sea.

Beijing considers Taiwan part of its territory and refuses to abandon the possibility of taking the self-ruled island by force. The two sides split at the end of a civil war.

The United States recognises Beijing and not Taipei, but provides military support to Taiwan.

In the June encounter, one of the Chinese Sukhoi SU-27 fighters crossed over the Taiwan Strait's middle line, widely considered to be the boundary between Taiwan's airspace and that of the Chinese mainland, Taiwanese media have reported.

One of the Chinese jets did not leave until two Taiwanese planes were sent to intercept it, the island's United Daily News reported.

In April 2001, a US surveillance aircraft and a Chinese fighter jet collided in mid-air, killing a Chinese pilot and forcing the 24-member US crew to make an emergency landing on China's Hainan island. The Americans were freed after 11 days in an early crisis for newly elected president George W. Bush.

Mullen, writing in The New York Times on Tuesday, said that he spoke in Beijing with his Chinese counterpart General Chen Bingde about having "more frequent discussions, more exercises, more personnel exchanges."

"A good bit of misunderstanding between our militaries can be cleared up by reaching out to each other. We don't have to give away secrets to make our intentions clear, just open up a little," wrote the outgoing chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.

China tells US to halt spy plane flights - LANKA BUSINESS ONLINE

The West (especially USA) calls SPYING on non-Western countries as "
routine reconnaissance"
 
It has nothing to do with the west or the US. The proper military term for this kind of activity is reconnaissance or intelligence collection. The term spying is used by civilians. No one in any military of any country uses the word spying. It is not a word listed in the Glossary of Military Terms.

All nations spy on their rivals or potential rivals. The US is doing nothing different. The Chinese spy on the US. The Russians spy on the US as well as on the Chinese. The Chinese spy on India. India and Pakistan spy on each other. As long as the platform used for intelligence collection, whether manned reconnaissance aircraft or UAV or a sea going vessel or a land based ELINT vehicle, remains within the territory of the host nation or within international waters or airspace, there is never a problem.
During the Cold war, Soviet submarines regularly parked themselves off America's east or west coast to sniff at the electromagnetic emissions emanating from the US. US did likewise. Following the collapse of the USSR, Russia has resumed these activities after a pause of about a decade and a half.
When, occasionally, the intruder gets too inquisitive and gets too close, fighters are scrambled to escort him on his way out. During hostilities, it may become tricky though as both sides are on the edge with itchy trigger fingers.
 
US had good satellite systems nah?
Why using these spy planes and making chinese angry
 
It has nothing to do with the west or the US. The proper military term for this kind of activity is reconnaissance or intelligence collection. The term spying is used by civilians. No one in any military of any country uses the word spying. It is not a word listed in the Glossary of Military Terms.

All nations spy on their rivals or potential rivals. The US is doing nothing different. The Chinese spy on the US. The Russians spy on the US as well as on the Chinese. The Chinese spy on India. India and Pakistan spy on each other. As long as the platform used for intelligence collection, whether manned reconnaissance aircraft or UAV or a sea going vessel or a land based ELINT vehicle, remains within the territory of the host nation or within international waters or airspace, there is never a problem.
During the Cold war, Soviet submarines regularly parked themselves off America's east or west coast to sniff at the electromagnetic emissions emanating from the US. US did likewise. Following the collapse of the USSR, Russia has resumed these activities after a pause of about a decade and a half.
When, occasionally, the intruder gets too inquisitive and gets too close, fighters are scrambled to escort him on his way out. During hostilities, it may become tricky though as both sides are on the edge with itchy trigger fingers.

the problem here is :

the fxxking US is borrowing money from China to spy on China.
 
And we are thanking the Chinese in return.

we will keep buying your bonds, even if your government choose to default it next tuesday.
guess what? it is cheaper to screw your entire nation in that way.
 
the government to do is shooting one down and get prepared to die with U.S.
the government just don't have guts
 
Yeah, like that's gonna work.

SAMs and fighters speak louder than words.
 
the problem here is :

the fxxking US is borrowing money from China to spy on China.

I don't know why you feel offended by that. I'm having a pretty good laugh at it.
 
In non-Chinese territory?

what U.S will do if Russia sends spy planes close along US coast from north to south of California, but in non-U.S territory?
we all know power speaks.
so draw a bottom line. no one feels good once U.S cross it.
 
we will keep buying your bonds, even if your government choose to default it next tuesday.
guess what? it is cheaper to screw your entire nation in that way.

And do what? Attack the U.S. by going to war? Heres a scenario you loan money to me I refuse to pay interest as well as principal what are you going to do about it?
 
what U.S will do if Russia sends spy planes close along US coast from north to south of California, but in non-U.S territory?
we all know power speaks.
so draw a bottom line. no one feels good once U.S cross it.
Buddy...This question has been answered many times already: The Cold War. In that era, most likely before you were borned, the Soviets were often seen in the air and on the sea off US coasts. We did not shoot anyone. China want to do the same? By all means, we WELCOME Chinese aircrafts and ships, spy or not.
 
And do what? Attack the U.S. by going to war? Heres a scenario you loan money to me I refuse to pay interest as well as principal what are you going to do about it?

you get your reputation trashed on the international market, you lose investors who will be willing to loan you more money. they will also start selling their bonds even at a lose.

China currently holds about 1.3 trillion USD bonds, that is tiny. if the US is going to destroy its reputation because of those 1.3 trillion USD, that is pretty good news, that is the reason why I said it is cheaper to screw your nation in this way.
 
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