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China opposes Israel's settlements construction in occupied Palestinian territory

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Not exactly, China has a much warmer feelings towards Jews. We do want peace in Mideast. However, we will not do anything to harm the interest of the Jewish state.

BTW, hurting other countries? Do you know any history related to those wars related to Israel? How many times those wars were initiated by Israel???

It seems that now it is also those countries who called for destruction of Israel while Israel does not call for destruction of any country. Go figure.

Yes, for most Chinese people, Arabs and Jews are the same, all were strangers. As long as the Middle East no war, it will not damage China's interests.
The Chinese people just want a store to buy goods(oil). As to who the owner of the store, the Chinese people do not care.
It means that we are the people who really want peace in the Middle East!
Yes, Chinese people during WW2 a great help to the Jews, but that is the humanitarian, it does not mean that we support Israel to hurt other countries.
 
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International politics cannot be judged simply as right or wrong. It is always related to national interest.

China need to do it superficial work in this case to make arab countries there happy. While China definitely has its diplomatic channels to let Israel know that our position or denunciation towards Israel is not that serious/damaging as it seems.

Now it is not Mao's era. China definitely will NOT sacrifice its relationship with Jewish state simply because of some settlement place construction.

Israel is not a core interest of China. We're cooperating in desert agriculture and salt water purification; military cooperation was cut off in 1999 and never started since. We're also cooperating with arab and other Islamic countries. Like you said, there is no right or wrong in international relationships.

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Expressing your feelings is fine but don't you ever express the feelings of other people. You can feel as warm to Jews as you want but don't ever represent other people's feelings.
 
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You can simply ask any educated people in China what they think about Jewish people. I bet majority of them will be quite favorable.

That is correct. :tup: There are many Jewish expats in Hong Kong, and they are very highly regarded.

However we are not talking about Jewish people, we are talking about the government policies of Israel.

We've all seen the news, that part of the world is in a perpetual state of conflict and violence. This does not leave a favourable impression.
 
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Check those arab countries and let me know exactly what is the percentage of their population there that are not from islam religion??? Confused? with what?

Iran is not interested in destroying Israel. How naive! Iran supported those Hamas and Hezbollah and other terrorist groups there by providing all types of weapons, that is for peaceful purpose???

Does its president openly deny WW II Nazi massacre and destruction of Israel times and times again?

You're again confusing Arabs with Islam. Israel is not going to be destroyed. Iran is not interested in destroying Israel. Iran is mostly scared of the US. Israel is a convenient talking point because they can't deliver a nuke to USA so the government understandably has to put on a show. If Iran had an ICBM that could deliver a nuclear device to the US, they wouldn't even talk about Israel. The most important tool for peace in the middle east is an Iranian ICBM.
 
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Not exactly, China has a much warmer feelings towards Jews. We do want peace in Mideast. However, we will not do anything to harm the interest of the Jewish state.

BTW, hurting other countries? Do you know any history related to those wars related to Israel? How many times those wars were initiated by Israel???

It seems that now it is also those countries who called for destruction of Israel while Israel does not call for destruction of any country. Go figure.

Warm feeling? Why do you say so?
We do not owe the Jews.
 
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That is correct. :tup: There are many Jewish expats in Hong Kong, and they are very highly regarded.

However twe are not talking about Jewish people, we are talking about the government policies of Israel.

We've all seen the news, that part of the world is in a perpetual state of conflict.

I will refrain from talking about Jews, to keep the quality of this forum up.

Check those arab countries and let me know exactly what is the percentage of their population there that are not from islam religion??? Confused? with what?

Iran is not interested in destroying Israel. How naive! Iran supported those Hamas and Hezbollah and other terrorist groups there by providing all types of weapons, that is for peaceful purpose???

Does its president openly deny WW II Nazi massacre and destruction of Israel times and times again?

Naive? You believe the surface. You do not look past the surface and at the core. This is why you are easily tricked by Western media that can't even fool a 5 year old in China. Iran does not support Hamas. Hamas is Sunni and hates Hezbollah and Iran, why would Iran support a terrorist group that hates it? Hezbollah is not a terrorist group. It is a militia defending the interests of the nation state Lebanon. Iran is one of China's strongest supporters and was one of the Islamic nations, along with Pakistan, that supported China suppressing the Uighur terrorists. Iran is one of China's most important allies in the middle east.
 
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I agree about Hezbollah even i didn't like they are such agressive.

About Hamas Ahmadinejad is supporting them and he said there that if they are the best to fight Israel then Iran should support them. It is real politics of Iran: support groups instead supporting peace and solutions.

To answer our Israeli visitor here: i am not a refugee at all.
I didn't like these Iranians who didn't understand anything about revolution. But i am among the big majority now, even i am from conservative family and my family most of them having the same opinion, that the country is not a democracy our country is very corrupted and it goes nowhere. Most Iranians didn't like agressive talks of Ahmadinejad.

Anyway about Hamas here is a link about Hamas from independant journalists website:
Ces ONG que le Hamas interdit | Slate
Hamas forbids many many humanitarian organizations because they want the people there to suffer so they say it is because of Israel.
Hamas is a threat for the Palestinians.
 
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I have no interest to express your feeling if that is what you ask. Since you say that way, I suppose you hate jews.



Israel is not a core interest of China. We're cooperating in desert agriculture and salt water purification; military cooperation was cut off in 1999 and never started since. We're also cooperating with arab and other Islamic countries. Like you said, there is no right or wrong in international relationships.

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Expressing your feelings is fine but don't you ever express the feelings of other people. You can feel as warm to Jews as you want but don't ever represent other people's feelings.
 
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The group that even assassinated its country's own premier minister is not terrorist group?

Pakistan is always China's strongest supporter, for which I agreed totally.

For others, I will say those are just mutual beneficial interest to have them together.

For Iran, since it has such a nutty president, it will run the risk being attacked by US. If such thing happens, China will do nothing except some oral protests.

Do not confused my words with what you read from western media. I read on my own and it has nothing to do with them.

Just like, do not say I am a communist if I have ever said anything that supports our China government.


I will refrain from talking about Jews, to keep the quality of this forum up.



Naive? You believe the surface. You do not look past the surface and at the core. This is why you are easily tricked by Western media that can't even fool a 5 year old in China. Iran does not support Hamas. Hamas is Sunni and hates Hezbollah and Iran, why would Iran support a terrorist group that hates it? Hezbollah is not a terrorist group. It is a militia defending the interests of the nation state Lebanon. Iran is one of China's strongest supporters and was one of the Islamic nations, along with Pakistan, that supported China suppressing the Uighur terrorists. Iran is one of China's most important allies in the middle east.
 
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You have warm feeling to someones only because you owe to them?

What a joke.

The reason that Chinese have walm feeling towards jewish people is due to the facts:
1) they are among the smartest people like we Chinese
2) they have created great improvements in many fields for human development, just check how many scientists are jewish for the past 300 years, or even 2000 years
3) they keep their race intact even under great suffer, just like we Chinese were. They have great perseverance that few races can maintain.
4) the list goes on and on

Such warm feeling derives from acknowledgement and respect.



Warm feeling? Why do you say so?
We do not owe the Jews.
 
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You have warm feeling to someones only because you owe to them?

What a joke.

The reason that Chinese have walm feeling towards jewish people is due to the facts:
1) they are among the smartest people like we Chinese
2) they have created great improvements in many fields for human development, just check how many scientists are jewish for the past 300 years, or even 2000 years
3) they keep their race intact even under great suffer, just like we Chinese were. They have great perseverance that few races can maintain.
4) the list goes on and on

Such warm feeling derives from acknowledgement and respect.

I think you are wrong.
For example, Steven Spielberg is a Jewish. He hates China.
 
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So?

We have a lot of terrorists who are from Pakistan or Afghanistan that hate China as well, so?

what is your pupose of singling out one jewish person?

In addition, he does not hate China, he just does not like our government. Do not confuse the two.


I think you are wrong.
For example, Steven Spielberg is a Jewish. He hates China.
 
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I think you are wrong.
For example, Steven Spielberg is a Jewish. He hates China.

Again i think you misunderstand, I don`t know about Spielberg but what i think he meant was Generally Chinese people respect the Jewish people for their Intelligence and perseverance, same goes for Jewish people respecting Chinese people.
Our governments may not always agree, but we`re talking about the people not the governments.
 
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So?

We have a lot of terrorists who are from Pakistan or Afghanistan that hate China as well, so?

what is your pupose of singling out one jewish person?

In addition, he does not hate China, he just does not like our government. Do not confuse the two.

Steven Spielberg supported the Dalai Lama. Do you think he just does not like our govt?
 
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