China opposes Israel's settlements construction in occupied Palestinian territory

[Chinese-Dragon]

Chinese shouldn't waste time defending unthankful Arabs!! And beside US will veto!

Yes, the USA will always veto it.

However, it is good for the Islamic world to know what our stance is.

Even if we don't yet have the power, to really do anything about it.

As of now, only the USA has enough "economic/diplomatic" power to change their behaviour. And the USA is on the side of the Israeli government.

 

[Paan Singh]

Yes, the USA will always veto it.

However, it is good for the Islamic world to know what our stance is.

Even if we don't yet have the power, to really do anything about it.

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[iPakMan]

so you are racist against arabs but as well Iranians
this is stupid to make a comment about my nationality
i didn't agree 100% with the foreign policy of Iran, especially i think it is obvious to accept Israel existence. so better to know people than think all Iranians are the same .

and yes Hamas and other groups sent rockets and this is terribly bad
i agree you kick their you kill them or whatever you need for your security
but about bombing and killing innocents especially in Lebanon when it is just about kidnap soldiers it is over exagerated. you have thousands people in your prisons : it means arabs can bomb your country???
It is what Europe says: you act with exageration

About the boat there were even Jews inside
i know from Israeli friends your propaganda saying they were Hamas leader inside so all of them were terrorists but it is better read another answers : from Haaretz to foreign news

Abotu american politics , it is like many countries in the world:
government and politics don't have the same view than the people
you have choice between A and B but both of them have the same opinion about a foreign policy. And i guess people in US mostly vote for internal reasons
especially in time of crisis

About Europe which i live in, i see that they are not pro Israel and they are not pro Palestinians (most of them): they prefer to criticize all the bad parts of any side: bombing of Lebanon, the boat but as well they really say very bad about Hamas and the fact they stole the freedom to the Gaza people

The fact is you occupy illegaly some lands
and this is not about arabs or iranians or one country who is saying this
BUT UNO

Well when i said you were Iranian, i assumed you left because of the regime there. So i wasn`t being racist, just pointing out that fact, anyhow point is Iran and Israel were once very close allies. I`d like that relationship to come back, i`d like to see the Iran free of those psychotic people.
And for the record, arabs and arabs alone are the blame for Palestinian sufferings. For example, Hamas kidnapped one of our soldiers about 4 years ago, and he is still kept captive, 2 Arab countries PAID 50 MILLION USD NOT to release him in exchange of easing the blockade and releasing 1000 Arab prisoners. That is how much they hate Israel, and hijack Palestinian suffering for their own selfish goals

 

[ephone]

I think it is just superficial diplomatic gesture from China. In essence, there are a lot more cooperation between China and Israel.

China knows for sure that US will veto it. So why not show such gesture to make those arabs happy. BTW, I bet China diplomats have already notified Israeli counterparts about such gesture and tell them not to worry about it.

 

[cross1993]

I think it is just superficial diplomatic gesture from China. In essence, there are a lot more cooperation between China and Israel.

China knows for sure that US will veto it. So why not show such gesture to make those arabs happy. BTW, I bet China diplomats have already notified Israeli counterparts about such gesture and tell them not to worry about it.

Conspiracy theory.
What is the reason China support Israel? Can Israel give us oil? Does Jewish control of the Chinese economy?

 

[ephone]

The technological cooperations in military, communication, agriculture and etc between the two countries have been great.

Conspiracy? I do not think so. I only mean China does not wholeheartedly denounce Israel as it appears. BTW, China, as well as other countries, knows for sure that US will veto such resolution. So China's position is just for other to see.

You think China and Arab countries relationship is that great? Surely, we buy oil from them. We do not owe them anything and we pay the market price for what we buy from them. It is purely business and that is it.

On the other hand, China has always had warm feeling towards Jewish people and we have harbored tens of thousands of Jewish people in China during world war II. When all other countries shut their door to them, China diplomats in Europe issued tens of thousands of visas to those Jewish people.

These two races have a lot in common and we have a lot to learn from each other.

In addition, there is no indication in my remarks about anything remotely related to "Jewish control of the Chinese economy". I have no idea where you draw that from.

You can simply ask any educated people in China what they think about Jewish people. I bet majority of them will be quite favorable.

Conspiracy theory.
What is the reason China support Israel? Can Israel give us oil? Does Jewish control of the Chinese economy?

 

[ephone]

You think China is on the opposite side of Israel? You are simply too naive. We recognize Israel and the cooperation between the two countries have started even before the normal relation is set up. After normalization, it has been much more cooperation between the two countries.

BTW, China is always wary of those islam terrorists while saudi arabia has always been a big bankers for certain organizations that have links to those groups. Of course, there are also other countries involved as well, e.g. Turkey's influence over those terrorists in Xinjiang.

Yes, the USA will always veto it.

However, it is good for the Islamic world to know what our stance is.

Even if we don't yet have the power, to really do anything about it.

As of now, only the USA has enough "economic/diplomatic" power to change their behaviour. And the USA is on the side of the Israeli government.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

You think China is on the opposite side of Israel? You are simply too naive. We recognize Israel and the cooperation between the two countries have started even before the normal relation is set up. After normalization, it has been much more cooperation between the two countries.

Did you read my post? I never actually said that.

The stance is against "illegal settlement building" by Israel, a stance that is shared by all the other members of the UN security council. Apart from the USA.

It is in the thread title: "China opposes Israel's settlements construction in occupied Palestinian territory."

 

[below_freezing]

You think China is on the opposite side of Israel? You are simply too naive. We recognize Israel and the cooperation between the two countries have started even before the normal relation is set up. After normalization, it has been much more cooperation between the two countries.

BTW, China is always wary of those islam terrorists while saudi arabia has always been a big bankers for certain organizations that have links to those groups. Of course, there are also other countries involved as well, e.g. Turkey's influence over those terrorists in Xinjiang.

The relationship between Israel and China is just as important as the relationship between Iran and China. Iran is likely more important due to a certain Israeli "action" in 1999, but thankfully it was done otherwise we wouldn't have known the true status of Israel, and we wouldn't have developed our own critical weapon. The arabs on the other hand are great for buying oil, not much else. Islamic countries such as Turkey, Iran, Pakistan, Malaysia and Indonesia are very very important to China and it is important to be sensitive and understanding to Islamic needs. Arabs are not all of Islam. We are not against the existence of Israel. We are against Israeli atrocities.

 

[ephone]

When you are under constant attacks and threats from all of those hostile countries surrounding you, when they constantly fired rockets into your backyard, what do you expect Israel to do?

You want Israel to take the fate of being destroyed?

atrocities? Do you know what General Wang Zhen did to those islam terrorists/separatists during the 50s??? I think Israeli soldiers have been very much constrained in most cases.

Those arabs should have a much better results without any current problems if they took the UN resolution more than 50 years ago about two countries solution. The wanted to annihilate Israel while almost got themselves annihilated.

The relationship between Israel and China is just as important as the relationship between Iran and China. Iran is likely more important due to a certain Israeli "action" in 1999, but thankfully it was done otherwise we wouldn't have known the true status of Israel, and we wouldn't have developed our own critical weapon. The arabs on the other hand are great for buying oil, not much else. Islamic countries such as Turkey, Iran, Pakistan, Malaysia and Indonesia are very very important to China and it is important to be sensitive and understanding to Islamic needs. Arabs are not all of Islam. We are not against the existence of Israel. We are against Israeli atrocities.

 

[ephone]

Of course I read it. It is true you did not say that directly. However, you hinted that by saying that "it is good for the Islamic world to know what our stance is".

And I do not think such stance is at the same side of Israel.

Did you read my post? I never actually said that.

The stance is against "illegal settlement building" by Israel, a stance that is shared by all the other members of the UN security council. Apart from the USA.

It is in the thread title: "China opposes Israel's settlements construction in occupied Palestinian territory."

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

Of course I read it. It is true you did not say that directly. However, you hinted that by saying that "it is good for the Islamic world to know what our stance is".

And I do not think such stance is at the same side of Israel.

Do you think the stance of the Chinese government on this issue is right or wrong then?

 

[below_freezing]

When you are under constant attacks and threats from all of those hostile countries surrounding you, when they constantly fired rockets into your backyard, what do you expect Israel to do?

You want Israel to take the fate of being destroyed?

atrocities? Do you know what General Wang Zhen did to those islam terrorists/separatists during the 50s??? I think Israeli soldiers have been very much constrained in most cases.

Those arabs should have a much better results without any current problems if they took the UN resolution more than 50 years ago about two countries solution. The wanted to annihilate Israel while almost got themselves annihilated.

You're again confusing Arabs with Islam. Israel is not going to be destroyed. Iran is not interested in destroying Israel. Iran is mostly scared of the US. Israel is a convenient talking point because they can't deliver a nuke to USA so the government understandably has to put on a show. If Iran had an ICBM that could deliver a nuclear device to the US, they wouldn't even talk about Israel. The most important tool for peace in the middle east is an Iranian ICBM.

 

[cross1993]

The technological cooperations in military, communication, agriculture and etc between the two countries have been great.

Conspiracy? I do not think so. I only mean China does not wholeheartedly denounce Israel as it appears. BTW, China, as well as other countries, knows for sure that US will veto such resolution. So China's position is just for other to see.

You think China and Arab countries relationship is that great? Surely, we buy oil from them. We do not owe them anything and we pay the market price for what we buy from them. It is purely business and that is it.

On the other hand, China has always had warm feeling towards Jewish people and we have harbored tens of thousands of Jewish people in China during world war II. When all other countries shut their door to them, China diplomats in Europe issued tens of thousands of visas to those Jewish people.

These two races have a lot in common and we have a lot to learn from each other.

In addition, there is no indication in my remarks about anything remotely related to "Jewish control of the Chinese economy". I have no idea where you draw that from.

You can simply ask any educated people in China what they think about Jewish people. I bet majority of them will be quite favorable.

Yes, Chinese people during WW2 a great help to the Jews, but that is the humanitarian, it does not mean that we support Israel to hurt other countries.

Yes, for most Chinese people, Arabs and Jews are the same, all were strangers. As long as the Middle East no war, it will not damage China's interests.
The Chinese people just want a store to buy goods(oil). As to who the owner of the store, the Chinese people do not care.
So it means that we are the people who really want peace in the Middle East!

Israel's settlements construction in occupied Palestinian territory, China believes that it will destroy the peace. So China opposes it.

 

[ephone]

International politics cannot be judged simply as right or wrong. It is always related to national interest.

China need to do it superficial work in this case to make arab countries there happy. While China definitely has its diplomatic channels to let Israel know that our position or denunciation towards Israel is not that serious/damaging as it seems.

Now it is not Mao's era. China definitely will NOT sacrifice its relationship with Jewish state simply because of some settlement place construction.

Do you think the stance of the Chinese government on this issue is right or wrong then?