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To fly from New York to Beijing, as I did this week, is to enter a looking-glass world. Eight o’clock in the morning becomes the same time in the evening. One transfers from a country aggrieved at China to one aggrieved at the US.

The latest cause of tension is the dispute about rare earths filed at the World Trade Organisation by the US, Japan and the European Union, which was announced at the White House by Barack Obama. The US president insisted with a flourish that China should not be “allowed to break the rules” by imposing quotas on the export of such minerals.

The rare earths case is a sideshow to the big challenge facing China – to shift from being the low-wage producer of manufactured goods for the rest of the world to a developed economy with a vibrant, open consumer market. But it shows how the credibility it gained from its Made in China policy over the past three decades has expired.

It needs to seize the next opportunity, not just to engage with the rest of the world but to lead it. The benefits of insisting that it is a developing nation that is too poor to play a leading role in institutions such as the World Trade Organisation, or fully to open its economy to global competition, are diminishing and the risks are evident.

China has plenty of arguments on its side. The hostility it faces for taking the jobs from other countries is a sign of how efficiently it did what they wanted in the first place – provide access to a low-wage workforce. It has steadily engaged with institutions such as the WTO and the Group of 20 to a degree unthinkable under Mao Zedong.

But Mao’s dictum was to “seek truth from facts” and the fact is that China isn’t trusted and has brought some of this distrust on itself. It stands on the brink of transforming from one of the world’s poorest countries into its biggest economy. That requires it to integrate further with the rest of the world, not to become alienated.

I observed the rare earths dispute from an unusual venue – the Central Party School of the Chinese Communist Party, which was founded by Mao himself in 1933, just before the Long March. The school, where senior Party officials are trained in ideology, and how to run the country, now has a campus in the north-west of the city, nearby the Summer Palace.

The fact that it was co-hosting a seminar on China’s development with Wilton Park, the conference agency of the UK Foreign Office, speaks volumes about China’s greater openness to the outside world. It provided an insight into the thinking of Chinese officials, business leaders and academics as the country’s rate of growth slows and trade tensions deepen.

Although it may overtake the US as the world’s largest economy by 2020, and is certain to do so by 2030 if it can maintain its growth trajectory, they emphasise that its people are still poor. The International Monetary Fund estimates China’s gross domestic product per capita at $5,200 – 91st in the world and just above Angola’s.

As a developing country, it cannot play a leading role in global development, they insist. That is for members of the Group of Seven, which it still has not joined. As one official puts it: “China is a big country but it falls short of the capabilities required to be a leader.”

I find this implausible. The existence of the school shows how carefully China trains and nurtures its governing elite – far more so than most countries. They have plenty of domestic challenges but they could also turn their minds to corralling the WTO and G20 if they wished. They are manifestly capable of doing two things at once.

More likely, they see tactical advantages to sticking to the line that China is a developing nation that participates but does not lead. It gains more time to comply with WTO requirements and they do not risk provoking the US and others further by taking a public stand.

It is too late for that. China is the primary trading partner for many countries and is crucial to any WTO effort to navigate past the stalled Doha round and restart multilateral trade talks. A display of false modesty about its abilities and influence prolongs the delay and encourages disputes.

China has plenty to gain by assuming a leadership role, apart from respect. If, for example, it permitted multinationals to compete more equally with state-owned enterprises, it could ease some of the current tensions over trade. It would also be, in Wen Jiabao’s phrase, a “win-win”.

China’s SOEs dominate many industries, aided by access to soft loans, free land and official backing – the chairman of an SOE often doubles as its in-house party secretary. “They cannot lose and you cannot win. You are not permitted to beat them,” says Derek Scissors, a senior research fellow at the Heritage Foundation in Washington.

China aims in its latest five-year plan to shift from low-value manufacturing to more sophisticated goods and services. The simplest way to do that is to encourage competition and to permit foreign-owned companies to set up locally and sell to its consumers. That would alter the structure of the economy and educate a generation of Chinese managers.

It would mean a loss of central control but China showed its willingness to take such radical steps before in its initial round of economic reforms under Deng Xiaoping. The question now is whether it gets trapped in a defensive posture or seizes the lead again.

China must stop its poor-country pretence - FT.com

Please dont ask china to lead we are not shinning and incredible we are still poor
 
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Yup, we are poor. No legacy wealth. We didn't sell beads to Indians (the non-shining kind) for Manhattan or Rare-Earth when we had the world's biggest ships. Very poor.
 
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we are indeed a poor country. we have many poor people in the west and middle part of China. we should always remember that China is a developing country. we should not take the responsibility of the developed countries, such as the gas emission. But now some rubbbish CCPs acts that china is a developed nation, we donate so many things and money to the poorer country, which we should not do. we should care more about our own brothers and sisters.
 
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Is China poor or rich? An interesting question .....
if you ask me i'd say neither pooor nor rich.:lol:
 
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Yup, we are poor. No legacy wealth. We didn't sell beads to Indians (the non-shining kind) for Manhattan or Rare-Earth when we had the world's biggest ships. Very poor.

I find it ironic that India is poor but pretends to be rich etc. China and Chinese on the other hand do things a different must be something about psyche. Where Chinese are humble and hard working maybe and Indians are not??

The article Says nothing about India...But all the comments are of India and of its people...
I wonder why people of China and Pakistan in PDF is so much frustrated about Indians....

this is how propaganda works my friend :)
one particular topic about chinese internet users is banned here but this is clear evidence that it does exist :)
 
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The article Says nothing about India...But all the comments are of India and of its people...
I wonder why people of China and Pakistan in PDF is so much frustrated about Indians....

No, I was not even talking about South Asian Indians. I was talking about American Indians or Red Indians. Unless you traded Manhattan for beads with the Dutch, I wasn't even talking about you.

Perhaps it is you who is frustrated when people aren't even talking about you, but you think they are. Frustrated or Paranoid ???
 
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By technical interpretations China is still developing and poor. Chinese government can utilizes a large sum of capital because Chinese people, as all Orientals, like to save money for the future.
 
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"Are bhai Jab hum dono (india And china) nange to kyaiko aapas mein paange "

India And China both are developing nation........Period:coffee:
 
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Both india and china may give themselves the status of a truly developed nation when their villages or lets say poor people start contributing in dere gdp .
We must attain a minimum of 25 trillion dollars gdp mark to attain the status that usa has today
 
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the author is a joke. China does want to increase its share in IMF or the World Bank a lot bigger than present but are these requests met? China does want to participate more in rescuing the troubled EU. One of the pre-conditions is EU must recognise China's status as market economy. China does want to invest and create employments in Europe/USA but many projects such as telecommunications were turned down based on national security reasons. China does want to narrow the trade imbalances but Europe/US refuse to relax their hi-tech embargoes on China. China did take up the leadership role rallying all the developing and under-developed countries to fight against unfair and stringent rules of carbon emissions that would have otherwise imposed on them by the developed nations during the many rounds of Kyoto Protocol negotiations. China does take the lead investing in Africa but the actions are demonised, badly twisted into diatribes and irresponsible reporting.
 
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China does want to participate more in rescuing the troubled EU. One of the pre-conditions is EU must recognise China's status as market economy. China does want to invest and create employments in Europe/USA but many projects such as telecommunications were turned down due to their accusation of national security reasons.
The bolded part would give a heart attack to some puppets :lol:


I say WEST is sole RESPONSIBLE for the current OZONE layer depletion and GLOBAL WARMING and since they have PUMPED OUT all CO2 in last 200 YEARS and all CRISIS occurred, these losers want to Accuse Developing Countries like INDIA and CHINA to share the responsibility for THEIR BS. Yeah.

AND

The REASON for Certain so called Hi tech Countries ACT like nice to China is BECAUSE They will be DEAD if they fail to export their so called HI tech products.
 
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maybe if chinese didnt breed so much they would be a richer country per capita

china has a lot of money..... and everything is very cheap in china... if you compare how much things cost as opposed to how much money you have...and all money had to be spent in your own country.... china would have a lot more then the usa would

developing?? perhaps... poor?? its people are, the country by far is not
 
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The bolded part would give a heart attack to some puppets :lol:


I say WEST is sole RESPONSIBLE for the current OZONE layer depletion and GLOBAL WARMING and since they have PUMPED OUT all CO2 in last 200 YEARS and all CRISIS occurred, these losers want to Accuse Developing Countries like INDIA and CHINA to share the responsibility for THEIR BS. Yeah.

AND

The REASON for Certain so called Hi tech Countries ACT like nice to China is BECAUSE They will be DEAD if they fail to export their so called HI tech products.

ok so china and india havent added to it?? those 2 countrys are among the biggest polluters in the world and have been for a very very long time

please do not try to say western world has provided ALL the pollution so far....

china IS the biggest polluter on the planet... america second and is only higher then china per capita which realistically means nothing at all... india is the worlds 3rd biggest polluter

the usa accounts for 29% of total emissions every produced.... china is at 8% india is at 2.3%

but fact is HOW much you pollute now... india will definitely overtake the usa soon and china will continue to be the biggest

as it stands every year, china produces almost a quater of the worlds emissions 24%... usa is at 18%

usa anual emissions are 5.4 million... india is 2.1 million tonnes
 
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Everything has to calculate basing on economic data and through these data the conclusion is China is developing. It is not even a member of OECD!

ok so china and india havent added to it?? those 2 countrys are among the biggest polluters in the world and have been for a very very long time

please do not try to say western world has provided ALL the pollution so far....

china IS the biggest polluter on the planet... america second and is only higher then china per capita which realistically means nothing at all... india is the worlds 3rd biggest polluter

the usa accounts for 29% of total emissions every produced.... china is at 8% india is at 2.3%

but fact is HOW much you pollute now... india will definitely overtake the usa soon and china will continue to be the biggest

on per capita basis we are not the biggest.

China is the leader in green energy investments. We are trying our best to curb carbon emission.
 
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