China may not veto US move for action inside Pakistan

[true_indian]

when the Indians to stop self-illusion?

Pakistan is a strategic ally, its potential and value, we have discussed several times in the PDF, and the traditional friendship and support, the Chinese people to betray such a friend, it is not possible, a zero-sum thinking of the Indians is deeply rooted.

The United Nations? United Nations does not mean the United States and india. you do not even know it.

Tell me this, would you go to war with US if it attacks Pakistan? If your answer is affirmative then you have no clue about geopolitics. I am sure CCP would have to see that any potential involvement in that regard would not escalate dissidence in their own country as it would affect economics significantly. After all China isn't a democracy and CCP wouldn't want to give their people voice just for the sake of Pakistan.

 

[devd]

LOL tell me what you can offer to us?

What can India give us?

1. Three things you mention , Feel free to do in that case what you want. very good but why you did
a. for your own benefits no conflicts with other.

Main question is China back off with in first hour. When West/US support India and they need to support Pak.

Two different scenario i agree. but Second one which we care only.


2. India never wants to give anything to China. I dont think they are giving anything as well. Just a mutual business each other benifits.

 

[Jade]

LOL tell me what you can offer to us?

Pakistan gives us:

1) Gwadar port, which allows us to bypass the Indian ocean and the Malacca straits
2) A land-link to the Middle East for oil pipelines
3) A gateway to the resource-rich Islamic world, which is absolutely essential for China

What can India give us?

1) A big market? We already sell to your market anyway, and we have a nice big trade-surplus with India.
2) ?

India doesn’t give a damn to US, so I don’t think India can offer anything to China…as regarding the markets, world is globalized so are markets

Long live China Pakistan friendship

 

[ramu]

LOL tell me what you can offer to us?

Pakistan gives us:

1) Gwadar port, which allows us to bypass the Indian ocean and the Malacca straits
2) A land-link to the Middle East for oil pipelines
3) A gateway to the resource-rich Islamic world, which is absolutely essential for China

What can India give us?

1) A big market? We already sell to your market anyway, and we have a nice big trade-surplus with India.
2) ?

Competition ... In all aspects.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

2. India never wants to give anything to China. I dont think they are giving anything as well. Just a mutual business each other benifits.

You guys are already giving us loads of your money, via the large trade-deficit you have with us.

But you can't match what Pakistan gives us, in strategic terms. Nowhere close.

Again: 1) Gwadar port to bypass the Malacca straits, 2) Pipelines to the Middle East... and most importantly 3) A gateway into the resource-rich Muslim world.

What is the most important thing for a large developing country? Resources.

The Islamic world has the resources, and Pakistan gives us a voice there, for example in the OIC. India on the other hand, is banned from the OIC.

 

[true_indian]

I wouldn't call them "fat a$$es" full-stop.

Despite being strategic rivals, I do admire many things about America. The American people have made their country the number one superpower, they deserve credit for that. And I would make the same argument about Japan, they have achieved many things and deserve respect for that.

About India? Well, they seem to enjoy labelling us "chinks" for no reason, and there is not much to respect about their achievements. So, it doesn't look good.

Now we have to be respected to name call someone. hmm... So you are saying Americans calling you 'Chinks' is okay and not us. How low would you go?

 

[true_indian]

You guys are already giving us loads of your money, via the large trade-deficit you have with us.

But you can't match what Pakistan gives us, in strategic terms. Nowhere close.

Again: 1) Gwadar port to bypass the Malacca straits, 2) Pipelines to the Middle East... and most importantly 3) A gateway into the resource-rich Muslim world.

What is the most important thing for a large developing country? Resources.

The Islamic world has the resources, and Pakistan gives us a voice there, for example in the OIC. India on the other hand, is banned from the OIC.

So you are basically using them. But you didn't answer my question. Would you wage a war against US if it attacks Pakistan?

 

[muse]

The articles author Anjum Rasheed is exactly right when she suggests that China will not support that Pakistan government handle groups and organizations that have earned "terrorist" moniker


Look there are some related issues but lets try and untangle them :

1. The Abbotabad raid has proven Pakistan armed forces to be a bunch of key stone cops types, that is say, incompetent, poorly trained, poorly equipped and ultimately, poorly led -- and this has come as a shock to most Pakistanis -- but it's really even more dangerous, because it has brought into question the WILL and ABILITY of the armed forces to protect the nuclear arsenal - the perverted ideological bent of the armed forces and their incompetence has successfully allowed weapon systems conceived to protect Pakistan to become a albatross around the neck of Pakistan, so to speak.

2. That OBL was found to be living less than 100 km from Islamabad -- for the time being, lets grant, a "intelligence failure" -- I say for the time being because while I don't buy that no one knew, I am sure that the truth of the matter will be revealed -- now to make matters worse, the ISI chief has suggested that the US pulled a "sting operation" against the ISI, suggesting that the ISI are gullible - how many times to these guys have to be bent over, before they take offense is anybody's guess.

3. Pakistan will not be allowed by anybody, including China, to coddle and nurture and make nice with terrorists -- that's exactly why some governments and peoples have such a problem with Pakistan, they just can't figure out where Pakistan stand -- and while some immature Pakistanis may imagine that this is an achievement of some sort, what it really is, is confirmation that Pakistani policy is one of duplicity - if Pakistan policy is of duplicity, is it also of duplicity with China? After all, Islamist terrorists are China's enemy as well.

Pakistan must act against Islamist terrorists even as it works out it's relations with the US --- US or no US, the war imposed on Pakistan by Islamist terrorists is not going to go away unless, Pakistan kills off terrorists and more importantly kills off the ideology that feeds Islamist terrorism.

 

[true_indian]

The articles author Anjum Rasheed is exactly right when she suggests that China will not support that Pakistan government handle groups and organizations that have earned "terrorist" moniker


Look there are some related issues but lets try and untangle them :

1. The Abbotabad raid has proven Pakistan armed forces to be a bunch of key stone cops types, that is say, incompetent, poorly trained, poorly equipped and ultimately, poorly led -- and this has come as a shock to most Pakistanis -- but it's really even more dangerous, because it has brought into question the WILL and ABILITY of the armed forces to protect the nuclear arsenal - the perverted ideological bent of the armed forces and their incompetence has successfully allowed weapon systems conceived to protect Pakistan to become a albatross around the neck of Pakistan, so to speak.

2. That OBL was found to be living less than 100 km from Islamabad -- for the time being, lets grant, a "intelligence failure" -- I say for the time being because while I don't buy that no one knew, I am sure that the truth of the matter will be revealed -- now to make matters worse, the ISI chief has suggested that the US pulled a "sting operation" against the ISI, suggesting that the ISI are gullible - how many times to these guys have to be bent over, before they take offense is anybody's guess.

3. Pakistan will not be allowed by anybody, including China, to coddle and nurture and make nice with terrorists -- that's exactly why some governments and peoples have such a problem with Pakistan, they just can't figure out where Pakistan stand -- and while some immature Pakistanis may imagine that this is an achievement of some sort, what it really is, is confirmation that Pakistani policy is one of duplicity - if Pakistan policy is of duplicity, is it also of duplicity with China? After all, Islamist terrorists are China's enemy as well.

Pakistan must act against Islamist terrorists even as it works out it's relations with the US --- US or no US, the war imposed on Pakistan by Islamist terrorists is not going to go away unless, Pakistan kills off terrorists and more importantly kills off the ideology that feeds Islamist terrorism.

I hope CD is reading this. Pakistan has to tackle terrorism for its own good.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

Now we have to be respected to name call someone. hmm... So you are saying Americans calling you 'Chinks' is okay and not us. How low would you go?

Except that the ones calling us "chinks" here, are ALWAYS Indians.

your a bloody slit eyed chink fuc*ing 2 cent china man

chink mustve have been raped by his maderchod porkgaystani boyfriend

hey you dirty chink keep sucking halal co*k



sala chini bastard

Calling Pakistanis "porkgaystanis"... and calling Chinese people "slanty-eyed chinks".

That is the Indian mentality.

 

[Jade]

It is not a good idea to stop trade with China because of the trade deficit. Indian market is learning to live with the competitiveness of the Chinese market. This is invaluable experience for local manufacturers to stay competitive despite the currency controlled exports from China.

China with its ever increasing labour cost is not going to be a cheap manufacturing destination for ever with its middle class bulging and an ascent of wealth in the country. India will be favourably placed to get a part of this pie. Check the automotive manufacturing in Chennai. It is just incredible to see tens of thousands of vehicles on the port.

I am for trade with every country including China…but the way the Chinese think as if they are bestowing us favor by having trade with us really irritates me

 

[huzihaidao12]

Tell me this, would you go to war with US if it attacks Pakistan? If your answer is affirmative then you have no clue about geopolitics. I am sure CCP would have to see that any potential involvement in that regard would not escalate dissidence in their own country as it would affect economics significantly. After all China isn't a democracy and CCP wouldn't want to give their people voice just for the sake of Pakistan.

You are not God, can not decide reality. I said I would go, China will adopt strategies according to their own interests, I said I do not go, the Chinese also will adopt policies according to their own interests. My view is that it does not matter and the Chinese government's actions. However, the Chinese Government certainly know what their strategy is, I think even that is not a North Korean model, the Vietnamese model is possible. Of course, all need to look at Pakistan's own will to resist, if the surrender of Pakistan, China has the will, also without significance.

 

[true_indian]

Except that the ones calling us "chinks" here, are ALWAYS Indians.







Calling Pakistan "Porkgaystan"... and calling Chinese people "slanty-eyed chinks".

That is the Indian mentality.

Whenever you have no argument to revert to straw man argument over generalizing everything. And there I thought you are reasonable. Anyways I am done arguing. There's no point discussing when your opinion has no relevance in either case.

 

[huzihaidao12]

The articles author Anjum Rasheed is exactly right when she suggests that China will not support that Pakistan government handle groups and organizations that have earned "terrorist" moniker


Look there are some related issues but lets try and untangle them :

1. The Abbotabad raid has proven Pakistan armed forces to be a bunch of key stone cops types, that is say, incompetent, poorly trained, poorly equipped and ultimately, poorly led -- and this has come as a shock to most Pakistanis -- but it's really even more dangerous, because it has brought into question the WILL and ABILITY of the armed forces to protect the nuclear arsenal - the perverted ideological bent of the armed forces and their incompetence has successfully allowed weapon systems conceived to protect Pakistan to become a albatross around the neck of Pakistan, so to speak.

2. That OBL was found to be living less than 100 km from Islamabad -- for the time being, lets grant, a "intelligence failure" -- I say for the time being because while I don't buy that no one knew, I am sure that the truth of the matter will be revealed -- now to make matters worse, the ISI chief has suggested that the US pulled a "sting operation" against the ISI, suggesting that the ISI are gullible - how many times to these guys have to be bent over, before they take offense is anybody's guess.

3. Pakistan will not be allowed by anybody, including China, to coddle and nurture and make nice with terrorists -- that's exactly why some governments and peoples have such a problem with Pakistan, they just can't figure out where Pakistan stand -- and while some immature Pakistanis may imagine that this is an achievement of some sort, what it really is, is confirmation that Pakistani policy is one of duplicity - if Pakistan policy is of duplicity, is it also of duplicity with China? After all, Islamist terrorists are China's enemy as well.

Pakistan must act against Islamist terrorists even as it works out it's relations with the US --- US or no US, the war imposed on Pakistan by Islamist terrorists is not going to go away unless, Pakistan kills off terrorists and more importantly kills off the ideology that feeds Islamist terrorism.

IMHO, it is an internal affair of Pakistan, Pakistan's internal affairs management is very bad, but does not mean the absence of internal affairs to allow the invasion, but Pakistan's decision to surrender, it also is the internal affairs, China will not say anything. Like I said, if Pakistan to surrender, China has the will, also without significance.

 

[Brotherhood]

Are you kidding me, India stop trading with your biggest trading partner? on the other hand you are China's 10th largest trading partner, who do you think will suffer more? wake up please.
US-China Trade Statistics and China's World Trade Statistics
Btw, let me remind you regarding India's FDI in 2010, (-32%) its alarming enough already, imagine stop trading with China which mean much more investments will be gone, can India afford that?