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China launches super-speed test train

It is all right to question the safety measures... but in terms of human loss, no country in this whole world can be compared to a democracy that starves to death 2000000 its own children a year...year over year and every year! :hitwall:

I also read that Indian trains kill more people per year than any other countries despite running at bullcart speed.
 
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dont know why some Indians posters laugh at Chinese trains and railway,check out yours first.

China speeds past India's slow train to Himalayas

Published on Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 10:30 | Source : Reuters

India's struggle to build a railway to troubled Kashmir has become a symbol of the infrastructure gap with neighbouring China, whose speed in building road and rail links is giving it a strategic edge on the mountainous frontier.

Nearly quarter of a century after work began on the project aimed at integrating the revolt-torn territory and bolstering the supply route for troops deployed there, barely a quarter of the 345-km (215-mile) Kashmir track has been laid.

Tunnels collapsed, funds dried up and, faced with the challenge of laying tracks over the 11,000 foot (3,352 metre) Pir Panjal range, railway officials and geologists bickered over the route, with some saying it was just too risky.

The proposed train, which will run not far from the heavily militarised border with Pakistan, has also faced threats from militants fighting Indian rule in the disputed region, with engineers kidnapped in the early days of the project.

China's rail system has been plagued by scandal. A bullet train crash in July killed 40 people and triggered a freeze on new rail project approvals, but the country managed to build the 1,140-km (710-mile) Qinghai-Tibet line, which crosses permanently frozen ground and climbs to more than 5,000 metres above sea level, in five years flat.

It has also built bitumen roads throughout its side of the frontier, making it easier for Chinese troops to move around -- and mass there, if confrontation ever escalates.

Indians have long fretted about the economic advantages that China gains from its infrastructure expertise. But the tale of India's hardships in building the railway line also shows how China's mastery of infrastructure could matter in the territorial disputes that still dog relations.

Both train networks, China's running far to the north and India's hundreds of miles away in the southern reaches of the Himalayas, reflect the desire to tighten political and economic links with their two restive regions - the Tibet Autonomous region in China's case and Kashmir for India.

But they would also form a key element of military plans to move men and armour in the forbidding region in a time of conflict.

Should India-China relations ever deteriorate to the verge of military confrontation and if riots in Tibet erupt, the People's Liberation Army's mountain brigades can rapidly deploy to the region. Railway and road construction have been China's Himalayan strategy for decades.

"China outstrips India in at least three respects: the ability to execute large and complex projects; rapid implementation; and - importantly - the foresight to embark upon these projects for economic and strategic purposes," said Shashank Joshi, at London's Royal United Services Institute, who has written extensively on India-China ties.

He also said China was also more proficient at concealing its failures because of its closed political system and excellent information management.

On the other hand, India hasn't yet determined its priorities in the region, which shares borders with both Pakistan and China.

"India has to decide what it wants to be. If integrating Kashmir is a top national priority, then the project should have moved on a war footing long ago," said one visibly exasperated military commander in Kashmir.

Signs of struggle

In the lower stretch of the line, workers are struggling to build tunnels through soft mountains to bring the track from the railhead in Udhampur, 25 km (15 miles) away.

Of the seven they built over the past four years, one has collapsed and the other is seeping water. Now engineers have gone back to the drawing board to figure out an alternative route.

"That is the way the project has been undertaken. You tunnel and then you find it is not holding. You then try and skirt around it like a bypass surgery," said Chehat Ram, chief administrative officer of Northern Railway.

This is only the first of the tough stretches of the network that will run through some of the world's most spectacular mountains and gorges, offering an alternative to the single highway that connects Kashmir and is vulnerable to bad weather.

Bigger challenges lie further down the track, including building the world's tallest single-span bridge over the river Chenab at an elevation of 387 metres (1,270 feet), higher than the Eiffel Tower at 324 metres.

Across the valley floor are signs of the struggle to build a network that even the country's former British rulers gave up on after briefly considering it in 1898 because of the forbidding and often uninhabitable terrain.

A tunnel built into a cliff edge has been abandoned near Tikri in the lower section, at another place work has been stopped after workers found that the section in the hills they had blasted and drilled through had become waterlogged.

The train station built at Katra in anticipation of the line is looking worn out, with paint peeling off and moss growing on the building, two years after it was completed.

Local herdsmen leave their ponies to graze in the grounds around the eerily empty building.

"People have lost their land, there are no jobs and there is no train," said Lal Chand, a herdsman.

The deadline for completion of the project was August 2007, but it has been pushed back to 2017, and even that is seen as an optimistic assessment. Cost estimates have jumped, from Rs 4550 crore (USD 1.0 billion) in 2002 to Rs 1956o crore today.

China, meanwhile, began work last year to build a rail spur that will connect the Tibetan capital of Lhasa with Shigatse, the monastery town that is the seat of the Panchen Lama, the second-most powerful figure in Tibetan Buddhism.

Joshi said China was in a position to bring far greater resources to public sector investment than India. For instance, Indian investment in railways in 2010 was about USD 9-10 billion. In China, it was USD 118 billion.


"If the Chinese had to build the Kashmir track, they'd do it faster and better than the Indians - but it might still fail, and they'd plough much more into it.

Running on the roof of the world,Qinghai–Tibet railway

Running on the roof of the world,Qinghai–Tibet railway - SkyscraperCity
 
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"bad things in india" information is only useful if they are boasting with lies, or if one is trying to prove how hypocritical they are, you can use it against them
don't bad-mouthing them just because they are bash China, really it is like throwing poop at each other, while that is a basic primates fighting mechanism, we can do better.

It is all good, as long as the safety standard meet. Nothing is 100% sure, there will always be a few outliers.
Human error on the other hand, can be easily understand as a design error, the designer should have to consider human as the most unreliable part of any design.
 
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For the indian train construction, may I suggest recruiting from Liverpool or Manchester the toughest construction foremen around. They will get the job done in 6 months like their great-grandfathers did. No joke. It worked the first time.
 
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For the indian train construction, may I suggest recruiting from Liverpool or Manchester the toughest construction foremen around. They will get the job done in 6 months like their great-grandfathers did. No joke. It worked the first time.

The Brits have no rail industry that is worth mentionning. Since the day we copied their trains (the Adler) we have pushed them aside.

http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adler_%28Lokomotive%29

Do you know that Germany was the first country in the world that had to label her products with "Made in Germany" if the product was to be exported to Great Britain to inform the British consumer that they are buying cheap and low quality products? ;)
Made in Germany
 
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'Korean' is not south korean at all. he was caught yesterday with his other troll account with japanese flag. what does that tell you? just another envious hindu with no ambitions in life.

anyway, fantastic development for china's transportation system. ;)

Korean also post as Slowman in militaryphoto.net. Militaryphoto.net is quite a pro-US pro right wing forum. He posted so much anti-China statements that he was banned very recently.

Here is his last few post before he was banned.
Children Die in China Bus Accident

He should also be banned from this forum as well as he will degrade it or he will attract similar responds that will pull the forum down with him.

Moderators should seriously consider banning him completely.
 
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This is a fine technological achievement by China. Out of curiosity, are the tickets within the common man's reach price-wise? And are these significantly cheaper than air travel? I mean, if I were Chinese and the ticket prices were about the same - why would I want to travel by a 500 km/h train than an aircraft unless I was saving some serious dough ?
 
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Korean also post as Slowman in militaryphoto.net. Militaryphoto.net is quite a pro-US pro right wing forum. He posted so much anti-China statements that he was banned very recently.

Here is his last few post before he was banned.
Children Die in China Bus Accident

He should also be banned from this forum as well as he will degrade it or he will attract similar responds that will pull the forum down with him.

Moderators should seriously consider banning him completely.

LMAO, this guy is utterly an embarassment even for his American big daddy. :rofl:
 
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Dont get jeolous mate i m sure in 2050 india can do the same , just be paitient

Thanks Buddy!! But you didn't answered the question I asked.. Did it passed crash test?? Just curious to know, What are the safety procedures in place that prevents it plunging down the bridge again?
 
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This is a fine technological achievement by China. Out of curiosity, are the tickets within the common man's reach price-wise?
No. Commoners take the slower train.

And are these significantly cheaper than air travel?
Cost more.

I mean, if I were Chinese and the ticket prices were about the same - why would I want to travel by a 500 km/h train than an aircraft unless I was saving some serious dough ?
This 500 km/hr train is useless because it is not possible to run a revenue service at that speed. The only viable 500 km/hr train technology is Maglev.

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Good luck!! Hope this one is crash tested..
There is no train crash standard in China. Accordingly, all Chinese trains are for China only, because other markets do require a crash performance, either UIC or FRA.
 
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Dont get jeolous mate i m sure in 2050 india can do the same , just be paitient

hmm....not bad...as i mentioned earlier..china has abudant(surplus) human resource they can experiment upon....we dont ve dat luxury..we use rat, you probably use human live to experiment...perhaps that is the reason we are lagging behind china in so called development....so good luck if u do it in 2011/12....hope by 2050...ur gross human death toll by then would not be less than ur population at dat time...enjoy a ride....:-)
 
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