China HSR News And Information: Original Translation

[Adam WANG SHANGHAI MEGA]

I am not interested in CHINA HSR any more as long as there no 380kmph or above operating speed news!

Really do not care the so called 160 kmph meglev....too slow!!

 

[AndrewJin]

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I am not interested in CHINA HSR any more as long as there no 380kmph or above operating speed news!

Really do not care the so called 160 kmph meglev....too slow!!

From 350 to 380+kmph, the cost will be doubled at least, but just for very limited time saved because the DISTANCE between two stops.

 

[TaiShang]

From 350 to 380+kmph, the cost will be doubled at least, but just for very limited time saved because the DISTANCE between two stops.

So high speed would probably make sense only very long distance non-stop (and potentially high-demand) routes. Otherwise, spending extra money for saving few minutes will not make any economic sense, especially given that build-up costs are increasing.

Maybe a future Mainland-Taiwan very high-speed train would make such sense as I believe there would be huge demand.

 

[AndrewJin]

So high speed would probably make sense only very long distance non-stop (and potentially high-demand) routes. Otherwise, spending extra money for saving few minutes will not make any economic sense, especially given that build-up costs are increasing.

Maybe a future Mainland-Taiwan very high-speed train would make such sense as I believe there would be huge demand.

Yes exactly, for stops every 50-150km, 350km/h makes sense,
If stops are every 10-50km, even 200-250km/h is enough.
For 380-500km/h, the ideal distance between stations will be 200-500km, no point!
Well, for research, such trains are worth being explored, but for the tracks we have at the moment, they are not economical.
Similarly, those 1000+Km/h tubes are just a business game.
No practical use until the details of technology are developed and the cost is acceptable.

Check the distance

 

[Darwin]

Lots of good points on why HSR is not suitable for short stops and higher speeds due to cost.
At the moment in many places its cheaper too fly long distance , above 600 km , than use a hsr .
But in the long run , the cost of jet fuel might make it more viable to make trips on trains. But planes might shift to electric propulsion ?
Wonder when usa will adopt hsr with our obsession with cars and lack of public trasnsport in most places.
I have used the chinese hsr from wuxi and the experience was nice.
Are chinese companies exploring new technologies to reduce operating costs ?

 

[AndrewJin]

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Wonder when usa will adopt hsr with our obsession with cars and lack of public trasnsport in most places.

People's habits are shaped by what has been provided, it is not a subjective "obsession".
Europe has excellent public transport in the first place, then people can choose between different options and vote for the best.

This is also what is happening in China, there are expressways (nearly 140k km), long-distance bus, trains, bullet trains, planes, you chose what you think is the best.

When one has no choice other than one or two methods, there is no point to talk about people's subjectivity.

Lots of good points on why HSR is not suitable for short stops and higher speeds due to cost.
At the moment in many places its cheaper too fly long distance , above 600 km , than use a hsr .
But in the long run , the cost of jet fuel might make it more viable to make trips on trains. But planes might shift to electric propulsion ?
Wonder when usa will adopt hsr with our obsession with cars and lack of public trasnsport in most places.
I have used the chinese hsr from wuxi and the experience was nice.
Are chinese companies exploring new technologies to reduce operating costs ?

I don't think any thing involved fuel has long-term benefits.

A train can link lots of cities and townships along a line, but you can't ask the plane to stop every 50-100km, you can't either built major airports anywhere.

That's the difference between point-to-point transport and a Network, the latter has a far bigger impact on economy.


Check the distance in km.
Some lines are 300-350km/h, some 200-250km/h.

 

[TaiShang]

New NE China high-speed train does test run

chinadaily.com.cn | Updated: 2018-11-29

The high-speed train D8501 enters the Harbin railway station, Northeast China's Heilongjiang province, to take passengers for its first trip to Mudanjiang during a trial run on Nov 29, 2018. The train left the station at 6 am to run along the 300-km Harbin-Mudanjiang high-speed rail line in Northeast China. [Photo/IC]

The high-speed train D8501 enters the Mudanjiang railway station, Northeast China's Heilongjiang province, on Nov 29, 2018. The rail line, designed for trains running at speeds of up to 250 kilometers per hour, cuts the travel time from five hours to about two hours. [Photo/IC]

The high-speed train returns to Harbin railway station, Northeast China's Heilongjiang province, on Nov 29, 2018. Trains will run along the line on a normal schedule by the end of the year. [Photo/IC]

The driver for the high-speed train D8501 running on the Harbin-Mudanjiang high-speed rail line, Nov 29, 2018. [Photo/IC]

The dining car on the high-speed train running along the Harbin-Mudanjiang high-speed rail line, on Nov 29, 2018. [Photo/IC]

http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/a/201811/29/WS5bff9b62a310eff30328bddf_6.html

 

[AndrewJin]

New NE China high-speed train does test run

chinadaily.com.cn | Updated: 2018-11-29

The high-speed train D8501 enters the Harbin railway station, Northeast China's Heilongjiang province, to take passengers for its first trip to Mudanjiang during a trial run on Nov 29, 2018. The train left the station at 6 am to run along the 300-km Harbin-Mudanjiang high-speed rail line in Northeast China. [Photo/IC]

The high-speed train D8501 enters the Mudanjiang railway station, Northeast China's Heilongjiang province, on Nov 29, 2018. The rail line, designed for trains running at speeds of up to 250 kilometers per hour, cuts the travel time from five hours to about two hours. [Photo/IC]

The high-speed train returns to Harbin railway station, Northeast China's Heilongjiang province, on Nov 29, 2018. Trains will run along the line on a normal schedule by the end of the year. [Photo/IC]

The driver for the high-speed train D8501 running on the Harbin-Mudanjiang high-speed rail line, Nov 29, 2018. [Photo/IC]

The dining car on the high-speed train running along the Harbin-Mudanjiang high-speed rail line, on Nov 29, 2018. [Photo/IC]

http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/a/201811/29/WS5bff9b62a310eff30328bddf_6.html

I can already feel the coldness from these photos....



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[AndrewJin]

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[Beast]

Lots of good points on why HSR is not suitable for short stops and higher speeds due to cost.
At the moment in many places its cheaper too fly long distance , above 600 km , than use a hsr .
But in the long run , the cost of jet fuel might make it more viable to make trips on trains. But planes might shift to electric propulsion ?
Wonder when usa will adopt hsr with our obsession with cars and lack of public trasnsport in most places.
I have used the chinese hsr from wuxi and the experience was nice.
Are chinese companies exploring new technologies to reduce operating costs ?

The advantage of HSR is the comfort even the travel time maybe longer compare to air travel. Plane trying to maximise profit by suqeezing as much passenger as possible that makes a single economy seat so small.
Travel on HSR even for 5-7hours will still feel comfortable as u have spacious seat and canteen to move around.

 

[Adam WANG SHANGHAI MEGA]

 

[JSCh]

Construction starts on railway station in China's "city of the future"
Source: Xinhua| 2018-12-01 21:59:56|Editor: Liangyu


BEIJING, Dec. 1 (Xinhua) -- The construction of Xiongan railway station was started Saturday with a goal to optimize China's high-speed railway networks covering Beijing, Tianjin and Hebei Province, according to sources from the China Railway.

With a construction period of 24 months, the station is the biggest one among the five stations along the 92.4-km-long intercity railroad linking Beijing and Xiongan. The other four stations are Huangcun, new airport, Gu'an East and Bazhou North.

Upon its completion by the end of 2020, the station will be connected with the country's five high-speed railways and intercity railroads, which will allow passengers from Xiongan New Area to get to Beijing, Tianjin in half an hour and Shijiazhuang, the capital of Hebei Province, in one hour.

The project will also make Xiongan New Area a key transportation hub well connected with the central, southern, northwestern, southwestern and northeastern parts of China.

Sources with the China Railway said international bidding for the station's design and construction plans had been completed, while construction experiences involving several domestic and overseas integrated traffic hubs have been drawn upon.

A variety of intelligent design and construction technologies would be applied so that the station would be a signature upon completion, said the sources.

In a master development plan for Xiongan New Area published in late April, the Chinese government described the new region as having "national significance" following the Shenzhen Special Economic Zone and Shanghai Pudong New Area.

About 100 kilometers southwest of Beijing, Xiongan New Area, known as China's "city of the future" in Hebei Province, has been designed to become a zone for innovation, a digital city synchronized with a brick-and-mortar one, and a livable and business-friendly area.

By the middle of the century, Xiongan will become a significant part of the world-class Beijing-Tianjin-Hebei city cluster, effectively performing Beijing's non-capital functions and providing a Chinese solution to "big city malaise," according to the plan.

 

[JSCh]

Traveling through mountains and across water! New railway in E China in trial operation
New China TV
Published on Dec 1, 2018

A new railway linking Nanping City and Longyan City of east China's Fujian Province has started trial operation.

 

[JSCh]

 

[hiseen]

The advantage of HSR is the comfort even the travel time maybe longer compare to air travel. Plane trying to maximise profit by suqeezing as much passenger as possible that makes a single economy seat so small.
Travel on HSR even for 5-7hours will still feel comfortable as u have spacious seat and canteen to move around.

I'd rather spend seven hours on high-speed rail. Also unwilling to take a "two-hour flight" ，Because the actual time spent is not much different， And high-speed rail is more free and spacious. So every time I return from Beijing to Changsha, where I was born（1400KM）， I choose high speed rail.