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US-China confrontation disastrous for HK

US consulate personnel in Hong Kong were revealed to have held meetings with student representatives who led the class boycott campaign. This news stirred up Hong Kong society, sparking heated discussion.

Some students kicked off a week-long boycott of classes from September 22. The Hong Kong opposition camp now is busy with preparations to launch the "Occupy Central" protest during the National Day holidays. Behind the scenes is external support from the US and the West, as has been proven by the latest media exposures.

Western support serves as an anchor to the pan-democracy camp. They are emboldened by Western champion, misperceiving what they are doing as a moral cause and misjudging the risks that "Occupy Central" could bring.

Sino-US relations are complicated. Competition is a normal state of the bilateral relationship. The more divergences Hong Kong has, the greater the possibility that it will draw attention from the US and be used as a card to trouble China.

The US has plenty of approaches to interfere in Hong Kong affairs, either through covert meddling, or blunt intervention. If China disregards the temporary turbulence in Hong Kong, the influence of US tactics will abate.

From an overall perspective, China's strategic initiative in the China-US relationship has been on the rise. The US influence on Hong Kong is not significant enough to be a trump card in competition with China. But the problem is that some radical forces in Hong Kong are catering to the US, which may increase US leverage.

Hong Kong society should have a grand vision and be clearly aware of its position in the strategic rivalry between China and the US. Hongkongers should firmly object to radical forces, who are attempting to kidnap the destiny of the whole region for their own political ends. The US will inevitably stretch its hands into Hong Kong. If Hong Kong turns into a wrestling field of the US to hedge China's rise, that will be a disaster for all of Hong Kong.

Washington hasn't started openly intervening in Hong Kong. The pan-democracy camp had better not count on that. Hong Kong's development cannot afford any direct collision and confrontation between China and the US in the region. China hopes for a prosperous Hong Kong with great sincerity and motivation.

This is something us Chinese patriots know for along time. Finally it's just published. The next part is, what is China going to do about it? Or better yet, now that the mainstream HK people know, what are the pro Chinese HK going to do about it?
 
Nope.
Basic rights of humans is food and water.
Then shelter.
Then healthcare.
Then education.
Proper governance should provide all that. India dreadfully fails at all 4 of them considering the mass starvation, the lack of toilets, massive diseases and high illiteracy and lack of schools.
It's the failure of Hindu culture as your caste system is the greatest human rights abuse system man has ever created.

Where did India come in? There are multuiple cases of successul democracies all around you. Look at vibrant Korea or Japan or US.They excel everywhere...
Anyhow, we keep animals as pets and slaves of our will. Having no say in governance is like being animals, having to bear theabuse of the master
 
Maybe the US expects Hong Kong to be something like how it use to be a British protectorate until 1997.
 
We guarantee the students that they will not be treated like this.

(To Hong Kong youth: Watch this video and feel glad that Beijing does not serve you this sort of democracy):

 
The CPC should arrest these US goons and sentence them like that Uighur separatist for inciting separatism in China.

Unless China takes a very hardline with this, the foreigners will try it again and again.

Close all US consulates in Hong Kong and arrest the individuals involved in separatism. If foreigners think they can incite separatism in China and get away with it, then the entire separatism law will become useless.

I'm waiting for a response from the CPC.
 
Prosecute them under anti-sedition laws. This is exactly like how McCain met with and championed the "moderate rebels" in Syria that eventually became ISIS. There's absolutely no other country in the world that would permit subversive fifth columns to meet in the open with foreign agents like that.
 
CCP treats Hong Kong over well, should be appropriate to give them a lesson.
 
Maybe the US expects Hong Kong to be something like how it use to be a British protectorate until 1997.

In that case there'd be no elections at all and the governor would be appointed directly by Beijing.

So what are the objective(s) of these people? To make Hong Kong an independent city state? We all know that is unrealistic.

Some of them are easily influenced and very naive. And a proportion of them *do* want independence even though it's totally unfeasible. Something like 80% of Hong Kong's food and water come from the mainland. Even toilets in Hong Kong use saltwater because freshwater is too expensive.
 
In that case there'd be no elections at all and the governor would be appointed directly by Beijing.

What I mean is that because the US instigated the protests, maybe in exchange of democracy, Hong Kong will be something like a US protectorate or a stooge.
 
Maybe these people think that the central government would not be able to act?
It is times that HK people grow up and learn about the real world.

Hong Kong Basic Law Article 23 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Hong Kong Basic Law Article 23 is the basis of a security law proposed by the Government of Hong Kong. It states:[1]

The Hong Kong Special Administrative Region shall enact laws on its own to prohibit any act of treason, secession, sedition, subversion against the Central People's Government, or theft of state secrets, to prohibit foreign political organizations or bodies from conducting political activities in the Region, and to prohibit political organizations or bodies of the Region from establishing ties with foreign political organizations or bodies.​

On 24 September 2002, the government released its proposals for the anti-subversion law. It is the cause of considerable controversy and division in Hong Kong, which operates as a separate legal system in accordance with the Sino-British Joint Declaration. Protests against the bill resulted in a massive demonstration on 1 July 2003. In the aftermath, two Executive Committee members resigned and the bill was withdrawn after it became clear that it would not get the necessary support from the Legislative Council for it to be passed. The bill was then shelved indefinitely.
 
The CPC should arrest these US goons and sentence them like that Uighur separatist for inciting separatism in China.

Unless China takes a very hardline with this, the foreigners will try it again and again.

Close all US consulates in Hong Kong and arrest the individuals involved in separatism. If foreigners think they can incite separatism in China and get away with it, then the entire separatism law will become useless.

I'm waiting for a response from the CPC.

Chinese throughout history have not trusted foreigners and rightfully so. Slowly during these globalization years the Chinese have let their guards down. These guys are a proof that foreigners still are not to be trusted. This is just the tip of the iceberg as there are many more factions that have not been caught on camera yet.

Hope this is a wake up call for all the Chinese foreign-worship-liberal dummies out there.
 

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