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Guys, please don't feed wild Indian trolls here, I don't know the reason they messing around like 6 yrs spoiled kid here. Mods not here, so leave them with their 'freedom magic' logic, just ignored them. These young HK 'freedom' lover 'ask' to let HK under British flag, whiles screaming for independence? I wonder how they got independence while live under foreign rules as vassal? Then they screaming loud being pro-imperialism, being pro-colonialism under pretext of freedom? Asking away from one ruler to another ruler nothing changes. They also weaving gay flag...who benefited from this all? MSM and West gov't....Well if this young spoiled hot-blooded HK kid love UK so much why don't they leave HK go to met their 'master' in UK, washing their car, polish their shoes because THAT's their democracy. Freedom? They got their protest, to express their traitor opinion, while Xi there. Common people need to feed and support their family, not false flag green banana politicking.
 
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Multiple trolls have been given extended vacations, also those who were baited and fed them received the same. Word of advice to all members don't reply to low quality trolling just report and move on.

I will reopen this thread soon once this mess is removed.
 
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The rebut from China's foreign ministry that the agreement with the British is historical and has no significance, is silly really. Even the Chinese netizens in Weibo are criticizing it.
 
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The rebut from China's foreign ministry that the agreement with the British is historical and has no significance, is silly really. Even the Chinese netizens in Weibo are criticizing it.
Chinese netizens cannot do much. CPC may not be the right fit for a more confidence 21st century Chinese populace
 
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One delegation, two systems: Hong Kong and China team heads to Maccabiah Games in Israel
A total of 30 athletes in three age categories take part in the ‘Jewish Olympics’, which sees 10,000 participants from 85 countries competing across 41 sports

PUBLISHED : Wednesday, 05 July, 2017, 12:02pm
UPDATED : Wednesday, 05 July, 2017, 12:02pm


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The junior athletes representing Hong Kong in Israel. Photos: Handout

It might not be the divided nations of North and South Korea marching together at next year’s Winter Olympics, but this month’s 20th Maccabiah Games will see Jewish athletes from Hong Kong and China compete as “one delegation, two systems”.

A total of 30 expatriate athletes from the Hong Kong, Macau and China chapter of the Maccabi World Union have headed to Israel this week to take part in the event dubbed the “Jewish Olympics”, which sees more than 10,000 participants from around 85 countries competing across 41 different sports every four years.

The event, which runs from July 4-18, ranks behind only the Olympics and University Games in terms of participation, although the Hong Kong and China delegation is amongst the smallest with the US sending around 1,200 athletes, and Canada, Australia and Argentina at around 650 competitors as well as 2,500 from Israel.

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Hong Kong’s junior futsal team in Israel.


The Hong Kong and China delegation, which is largely representing Hong Kong’s Jewish community of around 5,000 for the fourth time at the Games, includes athletes in the junior, open and masters age categories competing in futsal, athletics, swimming, squash, tennis and chess.

“You have real Olympians going, to age-group athletes who are in it for fun, and our delegation this year is more age-group athletes in it for fun,” said head of delegation Steve Lyons, who is competing in the open futsal team, while his son and daughter are also in action.​

“We have some medal chances, we have some quality athletes going, but our expectations are that we won’t do as well as last time as the bar was set pretty high."

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“There are three reasons why people are generally going: the love of Israel; being passionate about sports as everyone who is going is an athlete; and also pride in the Jewish community in Hong Kong."

“We are one delegation; one delegation, two systems.”

In 2013, Hong Kong’s 17 athletes won 10 medals, largely down to the efforts of swimmers Ana Scherer and Aaron Zweig.

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Aaron Zweig shows off his bronze medal in 2013.

The delegation has required significant local sponsorship to fund the trip, with athletes required to pay the entry fee, which is around US$4,000 for junior athletes who are staying in the village, plus airfares themselves.

“For about a week to 10 days you feel like a professional athlete as it really feels like a top-level sporting event. It is a fantastic opportunity to meet athletes from around the world. The standard in some of the sports is absolutely incredible,” said 48-year-old lawyer Jason Webber, who featured on the masters futsal team in 2013, and returns this year as part of the open squad.​

“The main reason for me is to represent my country Hong Kong. I have lived in Hong Kong for approximately for 25 years, so it is a tremendous honour to be part of the Hong Kong delegation and represent my country."

“It is all about the participation. Whether you come back with a medal or you don’t, it is all about the participation and the fun and the joining brotherhood of people from around the world in a sportsman-like way.”

Rafael Aharoni, the chairman of the Hong Kong, Macau and China chapter of the Maccabi World Union, will carry the Hong Kong flag at Jerusalem’s 32,000-seat Teddy Stadium on Thursday alongside the China flag, which will be carried by one of the eight members of the mainland group.

The delegation will also meet China’s ambassador in Israel, Zhan Yongxin, during the trip.

http://www.scmp.com/sport/hong-kong...tems-hong-kong-and-china-team-heads-maccabiah
 
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20 years after the reunification of Hong Kong with mainland China there remains a distinct cultural difference between the two. They have a separate language, cuisine and schooling system. China hoped that the reunification process would be relatively seamless, however attempts to change the curriculum and spread Mandarin have backfired. Is the city's distinct identity under threat?

 
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20 years after the reunification of Hong Kong with mainland China there remains a distinct cultural difference between the two. They have a separate language, cuisine and schooling system. China hoped that the reunification process would be relatively seamless, however attempts to change the curriculum and spread Mandarin have backfired. Is the city's distinct identity under threat?

Before that I didn't watch the video and only come to reply your comment. First at all is don't always trust 100% what the media tell you. The fact is we speak Cantonese in HK and Cantonesse is one of local dialect in China, which originate from Guangdong, one of the provinces from China. Beside that, we share the same writing system which make us can read and write perfectly to each other. More precisely to say, Cantonese is more like a local dialect than a separate language as you claimed.
Other than that China have eight great regional cuisines that due to geographical reason and regional climate, it is more like you eat what you get. And HK cuisine is part of the eight regional cuisines. A distinct cultural difference is a lie made by the western media, since how could we be distinct different when we are writing the same language, celebrating the same festivals, believing the same traditional values (Confucianism), eating the same foods and sharing the same history.
Lastly, learning Mandarin is like learning English that makes you communicate better with other people and increases your competitiveness in future career path. Not to mention, enormous of the economic and social exchanges between Mainland China and HK today. Learning Mandarin is a good thing.
 
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The growing popularity of learning Mandarin in Hong Kong

By Guo Meiping
2017-07-02 08:32 GMT+8

Language has always been an issue for tourists traveling to Hong Kong from mainland China. But it’s gradually becoming less of a problem as Putonghua, or Mandarin, has become more prevalent in this Cantonese-speaking region in recent years.

Many schools in Hong Kong are pushing forward trilingual education programs, including English, Cantonese and Mandarin.

20 years ago, Kiangsu-Chekiang Primary School was the only school that offered all of its courses in Mandarin. Principal Wong Po-ming said before the return of Hong Kong to China, their Mandarin education policy encountered lots of difficulties in Hong Kong.

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Kiangsu-Chekiang Primay School. /CGTN Photo

Wang Wanhui came to Hong Kong from the mainland 27 years ago to teach standard Mandarin. She said back then everything was different.

"When I came to Hong Kong in 1990, only a few people here spoke Putonghua, and speaking Putonghua would make you feel left out," she told CGTN.

Wang said most parents now urge their children to learn Mandarin, with students' Putonghua levels improving because society and parents are paying much more attention to this language. As a result, schools that offer a Mandarin syllabus can attract more local students.

A four-year Mandarin course was established at Hong Kong University of Science and Technology in 2012, and every single student has to earn three Mandarin learning credits before they graduate.

Dr. Keith Tong, director of the Center of Language Education of Hong Kong University of Science and Technology, said there is a pragmatic reason behind this change.

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Dr. Keith Tong, director of the Center of Language Education of Hong Kong University of Science and Technology. /CGTN Photo

“20 years down the road, if we can teach our students to speak Putonghua fluently and accurately, then they will be more competitive, even when they look for jobs in Shanghai and Beijing.”

But some people have expressed concern that Mandarin might begin to challenge the position of Cantonese or English in Hong Kong.

20 years ago, a Danish reporter asked Dr. Tong if Putonghua would replace English as the dominant language in Hong Kong. He said that's not the way language works.

“The answer is no. Language use doesn't happen just like that," said Tong. "Language use is decided by the people of a society. Cantonese, English and Putonghua will all remain important because each of them has a role to play in society.”

Dr. Tong added that the growing prevalence of Mandarin in Hong Kong is simply the result of the city's growing ties with the mainland.


The growing popularity of learning Mandarin in Hong Kong - CGTN
 
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Singaporean Chinese used to speak in dialects too. In fact, much more complicated than HK. The major dialect groups are Hokkien, Teochew, Cantonese , Hakka and Hainanese, while Fuzhou dialect (Hokchia, Hokchew), Pu-Xian Min (HengHua), and Shanghainese are also spoken by a very small minority.

To simplify the language environment and forge a common Chinese cultural identity in the 1970s, the government actively discouraged the use of dialects and heavily promoted Mandarin as a lingua franca among the Chinese. Today Mandarin is the most commonly used language in Chinese households. It's painful for the elderly generation who can only speak in dialect during that time, but the younger generation today have benefited from it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speak_Mandarin_Campaign



 
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The Chinese Carrier is in Hong Kong Right now and it looks tiny when compared to the container ships in the port
 
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No easy fixes in sight to Hong Kong’s housing woes

HONG KONG — Strike up a conversation about housing and soaring property prices in Hong Kong, and one is sure to receive an animated response.

“Hong Kong is such an advanced society but we have people living in coffin cubicles and subdivisions. This is a disgrace! Even other countries are laughing at us,” a mini bus driver in his 60s, who only wanted to be known as Mr Chan, told TODAY.

When asked what was the one thing she hoped the new Carrie Lam administration could achieve, a receptionist in her 60s, who only wanted to be known as Ann, said: “I hope the government can buck up, especially on the price of housing.”

“Young people find it very hard to buy their own place, because the prices are just too high. For people with average income, there is no way they can cope with the housing prices right now,” she added.

Ms Charmaine Ho, 25, a social media editor added: “(I wish for) affordable housing for locals. With that, we can stop worrying about spending the majority of our monthly pay on housing and have more time to create value for our home town”.

A typical apartment in the former British colony now costs 18 times the annual median salary, making it the least affordable housing market in the world by far, according to a Demographia International Housing Affordability Survey.

Despite repeated promises to tackle the issue, the government seems to have made little headway.

New Chief Executive Carrie Lam has pledged to make the housing issue a top priority during her tenure.

The underlying problem is limited supply. Land disputes have nearly halted plans to build big residential areas in the rural sections of northern Hong Kong.

Under a policy dating from the colonial era, families in traditional villages there are awarded long-term grants of land, producing suburban sprawl and making it difficult to put together a large parcel for development.

Money from the mainland has also been flowing in, driving up prices.

Plans to build elsewhere have stalled. Efforts to rezone the fringes of country parks for apartment buildings have been blocked by environmentalists, while the government has baulked at the cost of proposals by developers to subsidise land reclamation and build artificial islands.

And young people are bearing the brunt of this.

Hong Kongers that TODAY spoke to said that for young couple looking to buy their own home, many of them will have to fork out at least HK$4 million (S$707,000) for a resale private apartment averaging 40 square metres in size. A new unit costs HK$5 million upwards.

Those who cannot cope with the skyrocketing prices may have to resort to renting a subdivided room - some only big enough to fit a bed - at around HK$7,000 a month.

According to 2015 government statistics, almost 200,000 people were living in 88,000 subdivided flats.

“For young people, if they don’t earn enough to buy their own apartments or move out, all they can do is to be ‘fillial’ and continue staying with their parents,” said Mr Lai, a taxi driver, in jest.

“The apartments in Hong Kong are so small that people don’t even have space to put their things. Everything has to go into self storage rentals... I see on television how public housing in Singapore looks like, they are very spacious over there,” he added.

There is an option to apply for public housing units, where the size is usually between 30 and 60 square metres.

But there is an intricate quota and points system to navigate, with priority given to families and the elderly.

The city’s Housing Authority said in February that the average waiting time to get a public housing unit is just over four years and eight months.

Ms Alice Mak, a lawmaker with the Hong Kong Federation of Trade Unions said in an interview that the city’s first post-handover Chief Executive Tung Chee-hwa had attempted to address the issue, by pledging to build 85,000 public housing units every year.

“I am sorry to say that the second Chief Executive (Donald Tsang) did nothing apart from introducing a minimum wage for the people... The housing problem worsened. In fact, he invented the problem. The number of houses built during his term is the lowest in the last 20 years,” the pro-establishment lawmaker stated.

Ms Mak said that Mr Leung Chun-ying - who is Mrs Lam’s predecessor - merely inherited the problem from Tsang.

Mr Holden Chow, Vice Chairman of the Democratic Alliance for the Betterment and Progress of Hong Kong (DAB) said in an interview that under Mr Leung, the government tried its best to boost housing supply.

“The government sought many different areas for major or future housing supply to serve future demand. But of course it takes time to build new housing,” he said.

Mr Chow, who is also a pro-establishment lawmaker highlighted that there was a proposal to build a new artificial island next to Lantau that could house up to 70,000 people, but this was resisted by the opposition on environmental grounds.

Others argue that it is a matter of political will.

“The government can easily set a target. Let’s say they set a target in three years’ time, housing prices should be halved. Just by lip service alone, the price will drop,” said Mr Albert Lai, the policy committee convener of The Professional Commons think tank in Hong Kong.

“Are they willing to set this target? They won’t because of vested interests. Despite all the talk of controlling housing prices or releasing more hand for housing, they are not doing it,” said the former vice chairman of the opposition Civic Party. Mr Lai asserted that there is actually sufficient government-owned vacant land that can be utilised.

Mr Lierence Li, a public relations professional in his 30s, said: “The government should see how they can find more land either by reclamation or collecting the land from the New Territories… Otherwise, the youth will complain about housing and the society becomes less stable”.

“There are so many voices (on how to tackle the problem). Some want to preserve the environment, while others say the surrounding should be more green... We can reclaim land, but people talk about saving the fishes... Do we really need that many country parks?” Mr Chan, the mini bus driver asked rhetorically.

“Think about this, now people don’t even have houses to live in, so let’s be practical.”

http://www.todayonline.com/chinaindia/china/no-easy-solutions-hong-kongs-housing-woes

The housing situation in HK is really crazy.
 
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