China confirms to build 4 Aircraft Carriers

[gambit]

Which guys, can you be more specific?
Generalization and being overly confident is a dangerous thing, as the Americans have learnt in both the Korean and the Vietnam wars.

Take your own advice. Considering the Indians have been operating aircraft carriers longer than the PLAN have its feet wet, your contempt for what they know is dangerous -- for you.

 

[Obambam]

Take your own advice. Considering the Indians have been operating aircraft carriers longer than the PLAN have its feet wet, your contempt for what they know is dangerous -- for you.

So considering that Chinese have a history in warfare far greater than yours, should you not take a sip of the same medicine?

 

[shuttler]

Let alone landing or taking off, elite Indians sailors can not, till now, drive Viky without Russian technicians despite having stayed in Russia for months and being showed how to.

Ruskies sailors drone back this carrier to India this time, not Indians. These Russian sailors will stay in India for the coming years to teach elite Indian naval personels how to start engine, turn left and turn right etc 101 operation steps.

The biggest challenge for these Russian sailors in their careers for the next 5 years, however, seems to be finding a way to showcase to elite Indian navy guys how to avoid colliding Viky with another German container civilian ship and getting sunk again, and how NOT to drive it right up to Mumbai beach in any cases... Poor Ruskies, they'll never know what Indians can come up with after those...

I ve read sometime ago that when the Russians completed delivery of the submarine to the indians and after training they still didnt know how to steer the sub home
I cant find the news now or may be some members on PDF can post the news here for reading

 

[gambit]

So considering that Chinese have a history in warfare far greater than yours, should you not take a sip of the same medicine?

Was it helpful against Imperial Japan? Sorry, but folk medicine against modern vaccines? I will take the modern stuff.

 

[Obambam]

Was it helpful against Imperial Japan? Sorry, but folk medicine against modern vaccines? I will take the modern stuff.

That s exactly what we want to hear. So the Indians cannot relate past experience with new equipments. Thank you very much. Took some bush beating to get that one out didn't you?

Yes it did help, despite deeply involved in a civil war, we managed to hold up well against the Japanese.

 

[Kyle Sun]

Indian Pilots have when it was in Russia. Here the induction formalities are not complete.. Indian Pilots had the expertise to do so generations before China even thought to buy an Aircraft Carrier.

Does Indian Pilots have the ability to land or take off from the new AC ?

Yes or not , and please cut the crap I know India bought AC before.

You Please Cut the Crap sire. Yes Indian Pilots have the capability to do that from the New Air Craft Carrier.. We are not going to outsource that Job to Russians Are we?

So the guy who said India pilot can not take off of land at the new AC is a liar ?

 

[gambit]

That s exactly what we want to hear. So the Indians cannot relate past experience with new equipments. Thank you very much. Took some bush beating to get that one out didn't you?

So much for that 'high Chinese IQ'. We are not talking about single shot muskets against machine guns, of which the analogy is quite applicable in the China vs Imperial Japan situation of WW II, or may be more bows and arrows vs machine guns. We are talking an aircraft carrier type that is STILL being manufactured and favored by many navies, of which the Indian Navy have been operating for over three decades. The Vikrant was deployed in the India-Pakistan conflict in 1971. What was the PLA Navy doing in 1971?

Yes it did help, despite deeply involved in a civil war, we managed to hold up well against the Japanese.

Yeah...Suuuuuuure it did...

 

[Obambam]

So much for that 'high Chinese IQ'. We are not talking about single shot muskets against machine guns, of which the analogy is quite applicable in the China vs Imperial Japan situation of WW II, or may be more bows and arrows vs machine guns. We are talking an aircraft carrier type that is STILL being manufactured and favored by many navies, of which the Indian Navy have been operating for over three decades. The Vikrant was deployed in the India-Pakistan conflict in 1971. What was the PLA Navy doing in 1971?

It does not take away the fact that they still require familiarization with new equipment, since each piece of equipment is different, therefore will need to be handled, maintained and operated differently. Technologies won't adapt to you, but you will need to adapt to technology.

You Indian really do get butt hurt when it comes to IQ doesn't it? You have to bring it up when no one here is talking about it. It is not a part of this discussion so you can leave that one out of it.

The Chinese sent shockwaves around the world when we managed to operate, fly and land fighters on our carrier, two months after it was commissioned. How's that for IQ? A feat the Americans said it would take us years achieve. So how many years did that knock off?
To be fair, we have to thank Brazil for it, if it weren't for their training we would still be scratching our heads trying to differentiate the difference between a plane and an aircraft carrier let alone flying and landing on one. Brains, science and physics does not exist in China after all.

Yeah...Suuuuuuure it did...

Sure did indeed. If it wasn't for China, it would be India who will get gobbled up next as the Japanese were "supposedly" trying to free Asia of white imperialism.

 

[gambit]

It does not take away the fact that they still require familiarization with new equipment, since each piece of equipment is different, therefore will need to be handled, maintained and operated differently.

And the Indians have at least 30 yrs and two ships head start. Sorry, but they are not going from horse-and-buggy cart to a tank like the PLAN is.

Technologies won't adapt to you, but you will need to adapt to technology.

Wrong. It is a two-way street.

You Indian really do get butt hurt when it comes to IQ doesn't it? You have to bring it up when no one here is talking about it. It is not a part of this discussion so you can leave that one out of it.

Given how often I have to school the Chinese members here, especially on things technical, we have nothing to worry about from the Chinese when it comes to IQ.

The Chinese sent shockwaves around the world when we managed to operate, fly and land fighters on our carrier, two months after it was commissioned. How's that for IQ? A feat the Americans said it would take us years achieve. So how many years did that knock off?
To be fair, we have to thank Brazil for it, if it weren't for their training we would still be scratching our heads trying to differentiate the difference between a plane and an aircraft carrier let alone flying and landing on one. Brains, science and physics does not exist in China after all.

There you go...And do not forget to thank US as well. After all, look at your military reformation, it has US signature all over it.

 

[bolo]

That s exactly what we want to hear. So the Indians cannot relate past experience with new equipments. Thank you very much. Took some bush beating to get that one out didn't you?

Yes it did help, despite deeply involved in a civil war, we managed to hold up well against the Japanese.

And we didn't have guns, only from dead jap and kmt soldiers. And yes, we were fighting that traitor chiang and japs and defeated them.

 

[帅的一匹]

One American officer served in 7th fleet once said Indian navy is the most amateur navy he ever experience with(toliet flowing dirty water, huge mice,slippers every where). He described India navy as a hell for the sailor(back then he was expatriated to Dehli class for exchange). Believe me, India navy is crap.

And the Indians have at least 30 yrs and two ships head start. Sorry, but they are not going from horse-and-buggy cart to a tank like the PLAN is.


Wrong. It is a two-way street.


Given how often I have to school the Chinese members here, especially on things technical, we have nothing to worry about from the Chinese when it comes to IQ.


There you go...And do not forget to thank US as well. After all, look at your military reformation, it has US signature all over it.

WOW! American daddy begin to defend his son 'curry'.

maybe you shall try to teach us later when you defeat CCP.

before that happens, you are nobody.

Your so called 'zero casaulty' POLICY is only playing house game in front of China.

As long as China and Russia stick together, you guys are stuck.

Try to live on India ship for 1 week, you will have the anwser.

 

[gambit]

One American officer served in 7th fleet once said Indian navy is the most amateur navy he ever experience with(toliet flowing dirty water, huge mice,slippers every where). He described India navy as a hell for the sailor(back then he was expatriated to Dehli class for exchange).

How does that prove the PLAN is superior?

Believe me, India navy is crap.

Why should I believe you? Neither you nor I have any experience with the Indian Navy, but I am a US military veteran. What do you have to offer this forum?

before that happens, you are nobody.

Likewise...Before you can match the Indian Navy in carrier ops, the PLAN is running on training wheels.

Try to live on India ship for 1 week, you will have the anwser.

In your case...Try Basic Training...In the Boy Scouts...

 

[surya kiran]

One American officer served in 7th fleet once said Indian navy is the most amateur navy he ever experience with(toliet flowing dirty water, huge mice,slippers every where). He described India navy as a hell for the sailor(back then he was expatriated to Dehli class for exchange). Believe me, India navy is crap.


WOW! American daddy begin to defend his son 'curry'.

maybe you shall try to teach us later when you defeat CCP.

before that happens, you are nobody.

Your so called 'zero casaulty' POLICY is only playing house game in front of China.

As long as China and Russia stick together, you guys are stuck.

Try to live on India ship for 1 week, you will have the anwser.

Forget carrier ops. What exactly is the overall combat experience of the PLAN except for sending fishing vehicles? Hell, you will need to import PN officers if you need combat experience. They have more of that than the PLAN

 

[Sasquatch]

^^^^^^
Stick to the topic please. On topic seems Type 001 will be like the Ulyanovsk or upgraded Liaoning.

Forget carrier ops. What exactly is the overall combat experience of the PLAN except for sending fishing vehicles? Hell, you will need to import PN officers if you need combat experience. They have more of that than the PLAN

Naval battles against the South Vietnamese Navy in 1974 and another confrontation 1988 both victories, PLAN also received Aircraft Carrier training from Brazil. Try not to troll.

 

[kurup]

One American officer served in 7th fleet once said Indian navy is the most amateur navy he ever experience with(toliet flowing dirty water, huge mice,slippers every where). He described India navy as a hell for the sailor(back then he was expatriated to Dehli class for exchange). Believe me, India navy is crap.

Can you provide the link for that claim .