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China confirms to build 4 Aircraft Carriers

If China was confident that aircraft carriers can be sunk by 'carrier killer' ballistic and cruise missiles, why is it investing so much into Aircraft carriers? Will not they be vulnerable to even militarily weak countries?
 
India doesn't have experience operating modern carrier, their pilotes can't take off and landing from the Viky until now. The so calleed'experience" is useless, its only purpose of the experience claim is for show off.

Generous aid is what you get from the United States... India paid Billions to get this Aircraft Carrier. Besides India has an indigenous one under construction... Go one, now you may start the troll party.

Just like one of my fellow countrymen stated. Can you disprove the fact that India has more experience operating Aircraft Carriers than China?
No, you don't have experience operating modern carrier. You only capable operating those obsolete old toy. The gap between China will get wilder and wilder in the future. You are no rival to China.
 
India doesn't have experience operating modern carrier, their pilotes can't take off and landing from the Viky until now. The so calleed'experience" is useless, its only purpose of the experience claim is for show off.


No, you don't have experience operating modern carrier. You only capable operating those obsolete old toy. The gap between China will get wilder and wilder in the future. You are no rival to China.

Keep Dreaming Kid, coz that's the best you can do now..
 
If China was confident that aircraft carriers can be sunk by 'carrier killer' ballistic and cruise missiles, why is it investing so much into Aircraft carriers? Will not they be vulnerable to even militarily weak countries?
If US was confident that a destoyer can be sunk by missiles, why is it investing so much into destoryer? Is this your IQ?
 
PACOM Chief Says US Losing Military Dominance to China in Asian-Pacific

PACOM Chief Says US Losing Military Dominance to China in Asian-Pacific
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Friday, 17 Jan 2014 09:27 AM

By Courtney Coren
  • risk factor for U.S. Navy ships and troops stationed in the Pacific, Defense News reports.

    "Our historic dominance that most of us in this room have enjoyed is diminishing, no question," said Locklear, chief of the United States Pacific Command (PACOM).

    "We need to think about all scenarios, not just the ones we've been dealing with over the last several years where we've enjoyed basic air superiority and basic sea superiority," he added. "There are places in the world where in this century we won't have them."

    While it is clear that China's military power is on the rise, Locklear said, the question remains whether China will actively seek to challenge U.S. dominance in that region. The goal in Washington, he said, should be pushing Chinese officials to work with the United States to secure the region.

    "China is going to rise, we all know that. [But] how are they behaving? That is really the question," the Navy commander said. "The PACOM goal is for China to be a net provider of security, not a net user of security."

    According to The Washington Times, Locklear's remarks raise a lot of questions about how the Pentagon expects China to provide security in the region when Beijing and Moscow are both considered challengers to U.S. dominance there.

    "The problem with this formulation is, for whom does Adm. Locklear think China will be providing security?" asked Dean Cheng of The Heritage Foundation, the Times reported. "The implicit answer is, 'To everyone,' because the assumption is that we can somehow mold China into being ourselves — that China will see its interests as somehow congruent and coincident with those of the United States, and therefore China will assume the mantle of regional provider of public goods.

    "But this is a remarkable assumption, especially in light of recent Chinese behavior," Cheng told the Times. "China is not interested in providing security for everyone and, frankly, not even for anyone other than itself. This is the kind of bizarre lens that led one of Adm. Locklear's predecessors to offer to help China with its carrier development."

    China attempted to assert its authority in November when it declared an air defense zone over most of the East China Sea that included islands currently involved in a territorial dispute with Japan.

    The United States promptly tested the threat that China would take "defensive emergency measures" against aircraft that flew through the zone without first identifying itself by sending two B-52 bombers over the islands in dispute. The fly over took place "without incident" in what the Pentagon described was a "long-planned" training exercise.

    But in December, a Chinese warship nearly collided with a Navy missile cruiser, and early in January, China tested a high speed hypersonic missile vehicle that could reach the U.S. defense system. Both are considered additional signs of China's growing military dominance.

    Despite all the Chinese military activity in the region, Locklear said he is still more concerned about "an unpredictable North Korea" and its nuclear program.


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Which translates to an increase of $12 trillion USD increase for defense next year
 
Is it true or not that india pilot still can not take off or land from the new AC ?

Indian Pilots have when it was in Russia. Here the induction formalities are not complete.. Indian Pilots had the expertise to do so generations before China even thought to buy an Aircraft Carrier.
 
Indian Pilots have when it was in Russia. Here the induction formalities are not complete.. Indian Pilots had the expertise to do so generations before China even thought to buy an Aircraft Carrier.

Does Indian Pilots have the ability to land or take off from the new AC ?

Yes or not , and please cut the crap, I know India bought AC before.
 
Does Indian Pilots have the ability to land or take off from the new AC ?

Yes or not , and please cut the crap, I know India bought AC before.

You Please Cut the Crap sire. Yes Indian Pilots have the capability to do that from the New Air Craft Carrier.. We are not going to outsource that Job to Russians Are we?
 
Silly... China will neither have access to USN nor the IN for that matter. It has to learn from the basics or Russia might be an option if they wish to gain on their lost time.

You still dont get the difference between Driving an Aircraft Carrier and Operating one..

Americans, sure, but Indian navy have a few short comings that doesn't put you in that elite group.

1) China doesn't like to claim a huge nuclear submarine advantage, why? Because for a majority of the time, we been operating crap. It's only recent technological break through and funds being made available, that we can say we are close to matching the best in the world.

Same can be said here, Indian has been operating carriers longer. But, this recent carrier, however size, is the first "modern" carrier that Indians have operated. Even Chinese military experts agree India will probably achieve combat readiness sooner, but just like the Boomer situation, it's not as big an advantage as some like to believe.

2) The Indian carrier for one reason or another don't have full weapons and system on board, it is a functional carrier in the bare minimum of the sense. The Chinese carrier has been outfitted with the latest in Chinese naval tech. If you have been following recent developments, save the new limited production Zumwalt, though many of the promised weapons are not on board yet, American and Chinese naval tech is no longer a generation gap, we are more of the Pippen to America's Jordan, instead of bench warmer to Jordan. (NBA, in case people don't know.)

3) CBG, battle groups, the most important aspect of the carrier operation. India currently lack Aegis destroyers, but we got it in Type 52C and an even better version in the soon to be inducted type 52D. At this point, it's no secret the Chinese ambition in terms of the number and sophistication of our naval force.

India lacks the submarine force, this is not a reference to the accident, that can happen, but simply the quality of subs, the number of subs and the experience of operating subs and manufacturing of subs.

As to complementary ships, we have got plenty more than India, be it oilers, supply ships, or LPDs, corvettes and Frigates.


4) Lastly, Indian haven't really operated a carrier group far from its shores, until now, pretty much only the Americans can say they have relevant experience, maybe the British and French but to a far lesser degree. So We are both pretty new here.
 
Let alone landing or taking off, elite Indians sailors can not, till now, drive Viky without Russian technicians despite having stayed in Russia for months and being showed how to.

Ruskies sailors drone back this carrier to India this time, not Indians. These Russian sailors will stay in India for the coming years to teach elite Indian naval personels how to start engine, turn left and turn right etc 101 operation steps.

The biggest challenge for these Russian sailors in their careers for the next 5 years, however, seems to be finding a way to showcase to elite Indian navy guys how to avoid colliding Viky with another German container civilian ship and getting sunk again, and how NOT to drive it right up to Mumbai beach in any cases... Poor Ruskies, they'll never know what Indians can come up with after those...:lol:

That's equivalent to saying they have the same level of expertise on modern systems when the last time they stroked a weapon was in WWII.

They made it seem like anyone can migrate their past experience over at a flick of a switch.
If that's the case then why would every modern military in the world pay so much and put so much emphasis into familiarizing their military with modern systems and strategies?

I'm actually curious if they have guys who operated on their old carrier, that are still in service today can claim that they need no new training in operating this newly acquired carrier of theirs? :lol:
 
That's equivalent to saying they have the same level of expertise on modern systems when the last time they stroked a weapon was in WWII.

They made it seem like anyone can migrate their past experience over at a flick of a switch.
If that's the case then why would every modern military in the world pay so much and put so much emphasis into familiarizing their military with modern systems and strategies?

I'm actually curious if they have guys who operated on their old carrier, that are still in service today can claim that they need no new training in operating this newly acquired carrier of theirs? :lol:
That is funny considering how often you guys touted China's shipbuilding industry as indicative that the PLAN will become a naval superpower 'at a flick of a switch'.
 
That is funny considering how often you guys touted China's shipbuilding industry as indicative that the PLAN will become a naval superpower 'at a flick of a switch'.

To trust the word of a propagandist is to trust the word of a preacher.
 
That is funny considering how often you guys touted China's shipbuilding industry as indicative that the PLAN will become a naval superpower 'at a flick of a switch'.

Which guys, can you be more specific? and are you agreeing with the Indians that they can?
Generalization and being overly confident is a dangerous thing, as the Americans have learnt in both the Korean and the Vietnam wars.
 
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