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China and Bhutan reach deal on Himalayan border talks ‘in test for India’

How was India sitting pretty before 2019? China has always been calling the shots since Indian Independence in 1947.
Because before 2020 all "China's invasions" were just Inidan media's hypes. You never saw the really ugly part of China's becoming India's enemy. Till now all troubles and skirmishes between China and India were initiated by India. China tried to keep restrained to India. Since India betrayed China's friendly relationship and joined in anti-China alliance, The restraint is not necessary. The real agressive China is coming. Bhutan is just one step. South Tibet will be next.
 
Because before 2020 all "China's invasions" were just Inidan media's hypes. You never saw the really ugly part of China's becoming India's enemy. Till now all troubles and skirmishes between China and India were initiated by India. China tried to keep restrained to India. Since India betrayed China's friendly relationship and joined in anti-China alliance, The restraint is not necessary. The real agressive China is coming. Bhutan is just one step. South Tibet will be next.

indians are slave by habit, caused by occupation and foreign invasion. if you treat them with respect, they think you are weak

But if you treat them like a slave, then they will respect you, lessons for PLA
 
US has dumped Quad for AUKUS as India opposed converting Quad into a military alliance. India has never been and will never be part of a multilateral military alliance. Indian position will be same for both SCO and Quad in this regard.
The US will never trust Japan, japan is only a colony....Japanese will never forget Nagasaki and hiroshima, they are just biding their time...US is using Japan as cannon fodders and they know it. As for India, why the fkuc? Slave servitude and small lingum psycho modi + hindu crazies, US will never trust Indians because of Bhopal disaster...US knows India only too well. I am sure biden + Xi in private are just laughing at these stupid fkucs.
 
The US will never trust Japan, japan is only a colony....Japanese will never forget Nagasaki and hiroshima, they are just biding their time...US is using Japan as cannon fodders and they know it. As for India, why the fkuc? Slave servitude and small lingum psycho modi + hindu crazies, US will never trust Indians because of Bhopal disaster...US knows India only too well. I am sure biden + Xi in private are just laughing at these stupid fkucs.

you let incompetent india creep in any organization, that organization will fail
 
It's India culture, when PLA treat them with respect and save face for them, they think because PLA is fearful of them, their logic is if we don't fear them, why wouldn't we completely trash them. that's their historical experiences and expectation of being subjugated.

If we don't treat them as slave servants, they would think we are weak. These
thoughts and logic are completely foreign to Chinese
It's the caste mentality, you can't treat them as equals, kill a dozen and now it's all quiet and peaceful.
 
India made a very big strategic miscalculation. They thought that China's peaceful resolution of the Doklam standoff was due to China's weakness and fear of India. When in reality, China compromised because they didn't want India to become an enemy and wanted to have a mutually prosperous economic relationship with India. However, when India joined the Quad and turned its society and media resolutely anti-China, it became clear that India was an enemy, so China no longer feels any restraint in confronting India.
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Before Doklam standoff in 2017, China infrastructure in Tibet was so so, and only couple of thousands of soldiers on the front line. In Peace mode.
After Doklam standoff in 2017, China speeded up infrastructure building in Tibet in an extraordinary pace. Investment on road & railway per year was ten times larger. In War mode.

Before Doklam standoff in 2017, China western theater has the poorest and oldest military equipment, the upgrade is low priority. In Peace mode.
After Doklam standoff in 2017, China western theater military upgrade speeded up quickly. Type-15 tanks are just one of many new equipments. In War mode.

Before 2019, India was cutting military budget, and invest on domestic military complex. In Peace mode.
After 2019, Defence Secretary of India had multiple trips around the world, busy on buying Israel/Russia/US/France expensive toys. In War mode.
 
It's the caste mentality, you can't treat them as equals, kill a dozen and now it's all quiet and peaceful.
You are right. The civilization of India is deeply rooted in the caste system. However, there has been no aristocracy in Chinese history. We have formed an equal civilian culture. If the beggar succeeds in rebelling, he can also become an emperor. This has caused China's biggest misunderstanding of India, which is to respect India. After all, India also looks like a big country. This is the performance of China not understanding India. India respects the British the most. This is human nature. According to the Indian caste culture, the status of the British is above the Brahman.
 
You are right. The civilization of India is deeply rooted in the caste system. However, there has been no aristocracy in Chinese history. We have formed an equal civilian culture. If the beggar succeeds in rebelling, he can also become an emperor. This has caused China's biggest misunderstanding of India, which is to respect India. After all, India also looks like a big country. This is the performance of China not understanding India. India respects the British the most. This is human nature. According to the Indian caste culture, the status of the British is above the Brahman.
To the Indians, the Anglos are the highest caste and most worthy of respect. The Chinese are non caucasian subhuman chinkis who they are deeply jealous of because despite being of mongoloid stock, they have far surpassed India and are actually more respected and feared. This situation is not acceptable. India is ok with being subordinate to the Anglos but the Chinkis are seen as an upstart that needs to be cut down to size.
 
Because before 2020 all "China's invasions" were just Inidan media's hypes. You never saw the really ugly part of China's becoming India's enemy. Till now all troubles and skirmishes between China and India were initiated by India. China tried to keep restrained to India. Since India betrayed China's friendly relationship and joined in anti-China alliance, The restraint is not necessary. The real agressive China is coming. Bhutan is just one step. South Tibet will be next.

China's incursions and invasion across the LAC started since XI took over China. It has nothing to do with India joining Quad. In fact India joined Quad after feeling threatened by China. But what is Quad? It is not a security alliance. US wants to make it one but India had made it clear that she do not want to be part of any security / military alliance. This is the reason why US has created AUKUS to confront China.
indians are slave by habit, caused by occupation and foreign invasion. if you treat them with respect, they think you are weak

But if you treat them like a slave, then they will respect you, lessons for PLA

I agree that we Indians have slave mentality but we never considered China or Pakistan as weak. India at best will be able to defend for a few days and hope majors power will intervene. If it a two front war India will not be able to defend and lose very badly in a matter of days.
 
The US will never trust Japan, japan is only a colony....Japanese will never forget Nagasaki and hiroshima, they are just biding their time...US is using Japan as cannon fodders and they know it. As for India, why the fkuc? Slave servitude and small lingum psycho modi + hindu crazies, US will never trust Indians because of Bhopal disaster...US knows India only too well. I am sure biden + Xi in private are just laughing at these stupid fkucs.

I am not sure what Japan does. All I know was that US did not include Japan in AUKUS. AUKUS was created to replace Quad. US wanted to make Quad a security alliance on the lines of NATO but India made it clear that India has never been and will never be part of any multilateral security alliance. If Quad or SCO try to become a security alliance then India will quit them.
you let incompetent india creep in any organization, that organization will fail

Because India do not want to be part of any multilateral security alliance. It is the same for both SCO and Quad.
It's the caste mentality, you can't treat them as equals, kill a dozen and now it's all quiet and peaceful.

Why is China treating India as a slave and lower caste person. I know China is rich and powerful.
Good try, sco is under China and Russia leadership

China will way offset india nonsense

I agree China rules SCO. India does not count as India is not rich and powerful.
 
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Before Doklam standoff in 2017, China infrastructure in Tibet was so so, and only couple of thousands of soldiers on the front line. In Peace mode.
After Doklam standoff in 2017, China speeded up infrastructure building in Tibet in an extraordinary pace. Investment on road & railway per year was ten times larger. In War mode.

Before Doklam standoff in 2017, China western theater has the poorest and oldest military equipment, the upgrade is low priority. In Peace mode.
After Doklam standoff in 2017, China western theater military upgrade speeded up quickly. Type-15 tanks are just one of many new equipments. In War mode.

Before 2019, India was cutting military budget, and invest on domestic military complex. In Peace mode.
After 2019, Defence Secretary of India had multiple trips around the world, busy on buying Israel/Russia/US/France expensive toys. In War mode.

China's invasion across LAC into India started since XI took over as President much before Doklam or India joining Quad.


India, China set to end 16-day Chumar stand-off by Saturday
Rajat Pandit / TNN / Updated: Sep 26, 2014, 03:42 IST



NEW DELHI: India and China are all set to end their 16-day-long military faceoff in the Chumar sector of eastern Ladakh after a high-level flag meeting between the rival armies ended on "a positive note" in the high-altitude region on Thursday evening.
A day after TOI reported the People's Liberation Army had begun to "thin down" the presence of its troops in the ongoing eyeball-to-eyeball confrontation at Chumar in sub-zero temperatures, the flag meeting at the Spanggur Gap border meeting point decided to de-escalate the standoff over the next two days, said sources.


The two armies have "worked out the modalities to complete the troop pullback by Saturday evening" in the Himalayan plateau but will watch each other intently till it actually happens on the ground. While the first three flag meetings on September 15 and 17 were led by colonels/ brigadiers and failed to break the deadlock, the one on Thursday was between delegations headed by major-generals.
Much like the 21-day Depsang Valley face-off in the Daulat Beg Oldi (DBO) sector in April-May last year, this time too there is a quid pro quo to disengage the 1,500 Indian soldiers ranged against around 750 PLA troops in the Chumar sector to the south.




The PLA will not extend the road it was trying to construct in the "disputed area" ahead of Chepzi towards Chumar, which had led to the faceoff after being blocked by Indian soldiers on September 10. India, in turn, will demolish the recently-built observation hut at Tible in the sector and refrain from building bunkers there in order to restore the pre-September 10 status quo, said sources.
This has come after intensive military and diplomatic negotiations, which picked up steam after Chinese President Xi Jinping left India on September 19. The PLA troops had withdrawn from their 19-km deep intrusion into the Depsang Valley last year — just before Chinese premier Li Keqiang's visit to India — after India had simultaneously dismantled "tin sheds (over bunkers)" it had erected in the Chumar sector.
The Indian posts at Chumar have for long irritated the PLA since they can "look into" Chinese territory and track troop movements there. In the backdrop of both armies indulging in aggressive patrolling to lay claim to disputed areas along the Line of Actual Control (LAC), Chumar has witnessed several "tense'' incidents and face-offs between the two forces in recent years.
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The Chumar sector as shown by the red pin. (Google maps)
China, of course, is also peeved with India's re-activation of the Daulat Beg Oldi (DBO), Fukche and Nyoma advanced landing grounds, which are close to the LAC, and construction of some posts to counter the massive infrastructure build-up by PLA in the region.
China had also upped the ante by stopping Indian civilian workers from constructing a water irrigation channel under the NREGA scheme at Demchok earlier this month. The PLA had ferried Chinese civilians in large numbers in its vehicles to the site to scuttle the ongoing construction work. The Chinese civilians or graziers from a village called Toshigang had even pitched tents in the area.
Most disputed areas in Ladakh, a result of differing perceptions of the LAC, are only patrolled by the Indian and Chinese armies, without any positions being held. But this time, India said China had violated the 2005 border protocol by trying to construct a road in the disputed area ahead of Chumar.
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You are right. The civilization of India is deeply rooted in the caste system. However, there has been no aristocracy in Chinese history. We have formed an equal civilian culture. If the beggar succeeds in rebelling, he can also become an emperor. This has caused China's biggest misunderstanding of India, which is to respect India. After all, India also looks like a big country. This is the performance of China not understanding India. India respects the British the most. This is human nature. According to the Indian caste culture, the status of the British is above the Brahman.

India respects British because they were our colonial rulers and gave us Independence even though we did not fight for it. They also built rail lines, roads, educated us and provided us jobs.
To the Indians, the Anglos are the highest caste and most worthy of respect. The Chinese are non caucasian subhuman chinkis who they are deeply jealous of because despite being of mongoloid stock, they have far surpassed India and are actually more respected and feared. This situation is not acceptable. India is ok with being subordinate to the Anglos but the Chinkis are seen as an upstart that needs to be cut down to size.

We respect both British and China. British are our colonial rulers while China is rich and powerful.
 
I am sure biden + Xi in private are just laughing at these stupid fkucs.

I know US and China are part of G2 and the true rulers of the world. India is poor and weak. We have to follow whatever the superpowers asks us to do.
 
China's incursions and invasion across the LAC started since XI took over China. It has nothing to do with India joining Quad. In fact India joined Quad after feeling threatened by China. But what is Quad? It is not a security alliance. US wants to make it one but India had made it clear that she do not want to be part of any security / military alliance. This is the reason why US has created AUKUS to confront China.
Your shameless Indian media lied. I said again. Till now all skirmishes were initiated by India. In the Doklam standoff, Indian soldiers crossed entered to China's territory from China and Bhutan border .
 
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